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YES!NRL Fantasy 2021 Part 89 - Time to start pre season planning
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by Chewie Tue Aug 31, 2021 10:42 pm
YES!
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by Chewie Tue Aug 31, 2021 10:45 pm
I will have 17 this week, but it will include Feagai and SWalker. Every point counts right?
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by Cookie Monster Tue Aug 31, 2021 10:57 pm
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Is this the highest league that a mod will be commissioner of next year?
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by Liverpool_Bulldog Wed Sep 01, 2021 5:55 am
Sorry guys I know many don’t have a choice but just wondering who I should leave out?
Grant
Haas, Lodge, Klemmer
Fifita, Crichton
Cleary, Hughes
Aitken, Burton
Teddy, Ponga, Papy
Foggy, Verrills, Wilton, ARey
Teddy, Watson, Schuster, Brailey
Cheers guys.
Grant
Haas, Lodge, Klemmer
Fifita, Crichton
Cleary, Hughes
Aitken, Burton
Teddy, Ponga, Papy
Foggy, Verrills, Wilton, ARey
Teddy, Watson, Schuster, Brailey
Cheers guys.
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by Honey Badger Wed Sep 01, 2021 6:20 am
Liverpool_Bulldog wrote:Sorry guys I know many don’t have a choice but just wondering who I should leave out?
Grant
Haas, Lodge, Klemmer
Fifita, Crichton
Cleary, Hughes
Aitken, Burton
Teddy, Ponga, Papy
Foggy, Verrills, Wilton, ARey
Teddy, Watson, Schuster, Brailey
Cheers guys.
Its unfair to have a full strength team so I think you should leave Cleary out
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by The Bludger Wed Sep 01, 2021 6:42 am
Liverpool_Bulldog wrote:Sorry guys I know many don’t have a choice but just wondering who I should leave out?
Grant
Haas, Lodge, Klemmer
Fifita, Crichton
Cleary, Hughes
Aitken, Burton
Teddy, Ponga, Papy
Foggy, Verrills, Wilton, ARey
Teddy, Watson, Schuster, Brailey
Cheers guys.
I'd leave out Teddy's twin bro 'Teddy'
Great team for the final round mate. Nice to see you've finally copped some luck LB
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by Liverpool_Bulldog Wed Sep 01, 2021 6:52 am
That’s meant to be his twin Walsh in the starting 13The Bludger wrote:
I'd leave out Teddy's twin bro 'Teddy'
Great team for the final round mate. Nice to see you've finally copped some luck LB
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by Liverpool_Bulldog Wed Sep 01, 2021 6:59 am
Haha cheers mateHoney Badger wrote:
Its unfair to have a full strength team so I think you should leave Cleary out
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by robelgordo Wed Sep 01, 2021 7:45 am
Liverpool_Bulldog wrote:Sorry guys I know many don’t have a choice but just wondering who I should leave out?
Grant
Haas, Lodge, Klemmer
Fifita, Crichton
Cleary, Hughes
Aitken, Burton
Teddy, Ponga, Papy
Foggy, Verrills, Wilton, ARey
Teddy, Watson, Schuster, Brailey
Cheers guys.
Would swap Watson and Klemmer, loop Walsh and Schuster maybe?
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by rhinoceroo Wed Sep 01, 2021 8:11 am
Liverpool_Bulldog wrote:
That’s meant to be his twin Walsh in the starting 13
Playing it straight I'd probably leave out Walsh and Verrills or Wilton, but there must be some megalooping you can do.
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by wolfking Wed Sep 01, 2021 8:17 am
Liverpool_Bulldog wrote:Sorry guys I know many don’t have a choice but just wondering who I should leave out?
Grant
Haas, Lodge, Klemmer
Fifita, Crichton
Cleary, Hughes
Aitken, Burton
Teddy, Ponga, Papy
Foggy, Verrills, Wilton, ARey
Teddy, Watson, Schuster, Brailey
Cheers guys.
I'd play Watson and maybe loop Wilton and Walsh? Ask the loophole thread and Cookie Monster is the king of setting up massive loops. He may help you.
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by robelgordo Wed Sep 01, 2021 9:00 am
Righto - Mahoney to Papy done as last trade
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by thelastdodo Wed Sep 01, 2021 9:09 am
Liverpool_Bulldog wrote:Sorry guys I know many don’t have a choice but just wondering who I should leave out?
Grant
Haas, Lodge, Klemmer
Fifita, Crichton
Cleary, Hughes
Aitken, Burton
Teddy, Ponga, Papy
Foggy, Verrills, Wilton, ARey
Teddy, Watson, Schuster, Brailey
Cheers guys.
Teddy & Verills are 1st game so could loop them incase they bomb
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by Jele Wed Sep 01, 2021 9:12 am
Liverpool_Bulldog wrote:Sorry guys I know many don’t have a choice but just wondering who I should leave out?
Grant
Haas, Lodge, Klemmer
Fifita, Crichton
Cleary, Hughes
Aitken, Burton
Teddy, Ponga, Papy
Foggy, Verrills, Wilton, ARey
Teddy, Watson, Schuster, Brailey
Cheers guys.
Watson over Klemmer as starting MID. Gut feel on Papy vs Walsh, but I am backing Papy to bounce back. I'd probably rank your bench in the following order: Fogarty, Wilton, Klemmer, Schuster, Verrills, Walsh - but agree its worth looping Walsh as the biggest potential to go large.
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by Chewie Wed Sep 01, 2021 9:44 am
Liverpool_Bulldog wrote:Sorry guys I know many don’t have a choice but just wondering who I should leave out?
Grant
Haas, Lodge, Klemmer
Fifita, Crichton
Cleary, Hughes
Aitken, Burton
Teddy, Ponga, Papy
Foggy, Verrills, Wilton, ARey
Teddy, Watson, Schuster, Brailey
Cheers guys.
I would drop Grant, his service from dummy half was a bit average against the Eels. He threw a few forward passes which probably cost them the game.
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by bunter Wed Sep 01, 2021 9:52 am
Bit of a slow day so I thought I'd post my musings on the year that's been and early thoughts about next year. It's a bit of a diatribe so I'll hide it behind a spoiler.
- bunter's musings:
- This is my 2nd year of NRLFF and I'm happy to be in 52nd going into the final round - even if I slip backwards due to only rolling out 15 men.
I've really appreciated the ideas (and the banter) on the forum. My big idea is a slight tweak to the concept of guns and cash cows. I think that guns can usefully be divided into
- machine guns, who are reliable guns that play almost every match and seldom produce a dud score
- loose cannons, who are capable of being guns but are at higher risk of not playing (due to suspension, injury, being rested) or of a dud score (role sharing, not having their head in the game).
And I think that cash cows are short-hand for ladders, and the other key goal is to avoid snakes.
Therefore my goal is to take the longest ladders, avoid the longest snakes, fill my available budget with machine guns, take some calculated risks on loose cannons, and always have a couple of captaincy options.
A simple definition of guns is the max value they achieved over the season, which differs by position, but gives a pretty recognisable list as shown below. My split between machine guns and loose cannons is more judgmental, and I'm sure plenty will disagree, but again I've tried to base it on stats for this season - number of games played, and probability of a dud score.
Machine gun threshold (max price achieved during season)
CTR 580000 Burton, Rapana, Manu, Peachey, Gagai, Aitken, Bird, Graham
WFB 700000 Douehi, To'o, Gutherson, Garrick
EDG 730000 Tohu, iPap, Pangai, Jackson, Murray, Dfifi, Frizell
MID 740000 Tohu, iPap, Pangai, BSmith, Haas, Klemmer, Yeo, Jtrbo
HLF 740000 DCE, Hughes, Moses, Douehi
HOK 780000 Cook, Mahoney, JBrailey
Total 30
Loose cannon threshold (max price achieved during season)
CTR 580000 Ramien, Averillo, Best, Lomax
WFB 700000 Turbo, Papenhuyzen, Tedesco, Ponga, Hynes, Mitchell, BMoz
EDG 730000 ACrichton, Matterson
MID 740000 ACrichton, Taumalolo, Carrigan
HLF 740000 BHunt, Cleary, Munster, Hynes
HOK 780000 BHunt, Grant, Koro
Total 20
Ladders (descending order to 250k)
CTR Averillo
WFB Turbo, Hynes, Garrick, Walsh, Laurie, Johnston, Tedesco
EDG Curran, CHN, Schuster, iPap, Haumole, Riki, Koloa
MID Curran, Utoi, iPap, Watson, Haumole, Lodge, Koloa
HLF Hynes, Averillo, Trindall, Schuster, SWalker, LCroker, Sexton, O'Sullivan
HOK JBrailey, Watson, Liddle, LCroker, Verrills, JLussick
Total 27
Snakes (descending order to 250k)
CTR
WFB Papenhuyzen, Tedesco, Ponga
EDG Lawton, Cartwright
MID Haas, MEisenhuth
HLF Nikorima, Luai, Lam, Flanagan, Mann
HOK Starling, Lawton
Total 14
Potential captaincy options:
Cleary, DCE, iPap, Turbo, Tohu, Haas, Dfifi, Hughes
I realise that it's easier to identify machine guns, loose cannons, snakes and ladders in retrospect, but there seems a fair likelihood that most of this year's guns will continue to be so, and that those who finished this year near their peak value are more likely to be next year's snakes rather than ladders, but those who finished 250k below their peak have a chance of being a ladder, so I've listed them below in decreasing order. It obviously depends on their role / injury situation / proximity to retirement etc as well as whether their starting price next year is adjusted (as I expect it will be for Pap).
Papenhuyzen, Nikorima, Lawton, Matt Eisenhuth, Luai, Cartwright, Lam, Flanagan, Mann
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by Weiland Wed Sep 01, 2021 9:56 am
I think my main regret of a pretty good Fantasy season for me is that my worst 2 weeks were in my H2H finals. I finished first in the regular season in most of them and got wiped out in consecutive weeks in all but one of them (the one I survived had their finals a week later than normal). Kind of sucks because I am historically a H2H player. It coincided with the Cleary injury so I obviously made some poor decisions dealing with that.
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by Jele Wed Sep 01, 2021 10:05 am
bunter wrote:Bit of a slow day so I thought I'd post my musings on the year that's been and early thoughts about next year. It's a bit of a diatribe so I'll hide it behind a spoiler.
- bunter's musings:
I've really appreciated the ideas (and the banter) on the forum. My big idea is a slight tweak to the concept of guns and cash cows. I think that guns can usefully be divided into
- machine guns, who are reliable guns that play almost every match and seldom produce a dud score
- loose cannons, who are capable of being guns but are at higher risk of not playing (due to suspension, injury, being rested) or of a dud score (role sharing, not having their head in the game).
And I think that cash cows are short-hand for ladders, and the other key goal is to avoid snakes.
Therefore my goal is to take the longest ladders, avoid the longest snakes, fill my available budget with machine guns, take some calculated risks on loose cannons, and always have a couple of captaincy options.
A simple definition of guns is the max value they achieved over the season, which differs by position, but gives a pretty recognisable list as shown below. My split between machine guns and loose cannons is more judgmental, and I'm sure plenty will disagree, but again I've tried to base it on stats for this season - number of games played, and probability of a dud score.
Machine gun threshold (max price achieved during season)
CTR 580000 Burton, Rapana, Manu, Peachey, Gagai, Aitken, Bird, Graham
WFB 700000 Douehi, To'o, Gutherson, Garrick
EDG 730000 Tohu, iPap, Pangai, Jackson, Murray, Dfifi, Frizell
MID 740000 Tohu, iPap, Pangai, BSmith, Haas, Klemmer, Yeo, Jtrbo
HLF 740000 DCE, Hughes, Moses, Douehi
HOK 780000 Cook, Mahoney, JBrailey
Total 30
Loose cannon threshold (max price achieved during season)
CTR 580000 Ramien, Averillo, Best, Lomax
WFB 700000 Turbo, Papenhuyzen, Tedesco, Ponga, Hynes, Mitchell, BMoz
EDG 730000 ACrichton, Matterson
MID 740000 ACrichton, Taumalolo, Carrigan
HLF 740000 BHunt, Cleary, Munster, Hynes
HOK 780000 BHunt, Grant, Koro
Total 20
Ladders (descending order to 250k)
CTR Averillo
WFB Turbo, Hynes, Garrick, Walsh, Laurie, Johnston, Tedesco
EDG Curran, CHN, Schuster, iPap, Haumole, Riki, Koloa
MID Curran, Utoi, iPap, Watson, Haumole, Lodge, Koloa
HLF Hynes, Averillo, Trindall, Schuster, SWalker, LCroker, Sexton, O'Sullivan
HOK JBrailey, Watson, Liddle, LCroker, Verrills, JLussick
Total 27
Snakes (descending order to 250k)
CTR
WFB Papenhuyzen, Tedesco, Ponga
EDG Lawton, Cartwright
MID Haas, MEisenhuth
HLF Nikorima, Luai, Lam, Flanagan, Mann
HOK Starling, Lawton
Total 14
Potential captaincy options:
Cleary, DCE, iPap, Turbo, Tohu, Haas, Dfifi, Hughes
I realise that it's easier to identify machine guns, loose cannons, snakes and ladders in retrospect, but there seems a fair likelihood that most of this year's guns will continue to be so, and that those who finished this year near their peak value are more likely to be next year's snakes rather than ladders, but those who finished 250k below their peak have a chance of being a ladder, so I've listed them below in decreasing order. It obviously depends on their role / injury situation / proximity to retirement etc as well as whether their starting price next year is adjusted (as I expect it will be for Pap).
Papenhuyzen, Nikorima, Lawton, Matt Eisenhuth, Luai, Cartwright, Lam, Flanagan, Mann
You had me at "This is my 2nd year of NRLFF and I'm happy to be in 52nd going into the final round". What a great achievement - well done!
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by wolfking Wed Sep 01, 2021 10:18 am
Jele wrote:
You had me at "This is my 2nd year of NRLFF and I'm happy to be in 52nd going into the final round". What a great achievement - well done!
lol, yeah some of us have been playing for years and never gotten that high. Congrats bunter anyway.