NRL Fantasy 2022 Part 5 - RIP Shane Warne

FalconSloth wrote:Tried to stack my starting team with players I would like in it. Ended up with:

Randall
Uto Arrow King
Fifita Fermor
Cleary Sexton
Burton Tago
Papenhuyzen Hynes Crichton

Nanai Amone Ilias Schneider

240k x 4

Meant my bench is pretty light but if the right people show up on Tuesday I could end up with 11 potential keepers in my starting team

Mine is similar and light bench too I have:

Cheese
Haas Arrow Bullemor
Fifita Katoa
Cleary Ilias
S. Crichton Penisini
Hynes Pap Coates

Randall Tago Tuilagi Schneider
Fifita M. King Jennings Koula

37k spare

In 4 years Mahoney has averaged over 70 minutes as a starter.
Is there any indication that is about to change? Parra losing heaps of players next year, this could be their best chance at a premiership for a whole. Surely they want to win games and not just give random minutes to fringe NRL players

The Dolphin Conspiracies wrote:

The word is not the problem... It is the inherent bias you are displaying... dark ages stuff mate

https://www.smh.com.au/national/a-fascinating-experiment-in-how-sexism-and-racism-affects-the-way-we-watch-sport-20211109-p597g1.html

Great article. Found myself reflecting on my own perceptions of women in sport, and I do think I'm a little bit unconsciously/subconsciously sexist. Will definitely be something to keep a mental tab on, and try and fix it!

In a game with so much luck and where everyone starts with the same players bar a few how do some people consistently find themselves near the top? I've always been up there. 2018 I was top 5000 and I have been climbing up to just under 3000 last year but I have struggled to crack that top 1000 or even get close to it

FalconSloth wrote:In a game with so much luck and where everyone starts with the same players bar a few how do some people consistently find themselves near the top? I've always been up there. 2018 I was top 5000 and I have been climbing up to just under 3000 last year but I have struggled to crack that top 1000 or even get close to it

Starting team does not have much to do with final ranking. Making the right trades at the right time is how you win.

Everyone here will have at least a semi-reasonable team. Success is jumping on the right rookies before they explode in price, and knowing when to ditch people due to injuries/form.

Milchcow wrote:

Starting team does not have much to do with final ranking. Making the right trades at the right time is how you win.

Everyone here will have at least a semi-reasonable team. Success is jumping on the right rookies before they explode in price, and knowing when to ditch people due to injuries/form.

On this forum it seems like most people trade in the same people at the same time and trade out the same people at the same time as well.

FalconSloth wrote:
On this forum it seems like most people trade in the same people at the same time and trade out the same people at the same time as well.

Papy and Turbo were two notable counter-examples last year.

Many held Papy far too long.
Many punted on Turbo getting injured and never brought him in until it was far too late.

Also I remember not getting IPap like many others and thinking what could have been.

Snatchpato wrote:
Papy and Turbo were two notable counter-examples last year.

Many held Papy far too long.
Many punted on Turbo getting injured and never brought him in until it was far too late.

Also I remember not getting IPap like many others and thinking what could have been.

Guilty on all three counts your Honor

FalconSloth wrote:
On this forum it seems like most people trade in the same people at the same time and trade out the same people at the same time as well.

Last year other than the obvious rush to get Cleary and/or Turbo for those that didn't have them from their first game.
And when Cleary got injured again there were people who held him throughout, ditched him forever, or ditched him and get him back.

Lots of people avoided iPap
There was a wide range around when people traded Papenhuyzen out, or Nicho Hynes in. Everyone that did it early got rewarded but at the time that was a gamble.
Most people got Reece Walsh in early, but there would have been plenty of people that

Some people traded in Starling when he got a start at hooker, or worse, Zac Cini - both of which were mistakes.

The popular centres had wildly varying results. Between getting injured, having poor results, or actually doing well (in the case of Averillo, becoming a gun after many had traded him out)

FalconSloth wrote:
On this forum it seems like most people trade in the same people at the same time and trade out the same people at the same time as well.

You still need a couple of bold moves that pay off. Nothing outrageous. There is a lot of luck about who ends up at the top by end of season.

You dont need to make these moves in your starting team. The best thing you can do with starting 21 for round one is to be reasonably safe.

Once you fall behind the 8 ball (whether it is your own doing or through unlukcy injuries/suspensions) it is super hard to crawl back (to the top of the pack, you can always make up decent ground at end of the season)

This is sort of what I'm talking about. There are countless of these decisions which seem 50/50 but it the same people filling up the top 2 leagues each year

EDIT: was talking about the 2 posts above MTBs.

Milchcow wrote:
In 4 years Mahoney has averaged over 70 minutes as a starter.
Is there any indication that is about to change? Parra losing heaps of players next year, this could be their best chance at a premiership for a whole. Surely they want to win games and not just give random minutes to fringe NRL players

A few more posts like this and Mahoney might Bradbury his way into my team

Moanaman wrote:

Guilty on all three counts your Honor

Haha, likewise!!!

Speaking of guys that always come out of the blocks fast, has Verbal (or his alt that i now forget) showed up this year? Need that guy around to copy his ideas

Snatchpato wrote:
Papy and Turbo were two notable counter-examples last year.

Many held Papy far too long.
Many punted on Turbo getting injured and never brought him in until it was far too late.

Also I remember not getting IPap like many others and thinking what could have been.

Guilty on two counts. Guess I'm guilty on ipap as well, got him in far too late. Just throw away the key is what I'm saying.

With Arrow everyone is hoping he returns to gun levels but his highest ever average was 52 in 2019 and 50 the year before that. Even in his last year at the Titans he averaged 42.

Milchcow wrote:
In 4 years Mahoney has averaged over 70 minutes as a starter.
Is there any indication that is about to change? Parra losing heaps of players next year, this could be their best chance at a premiership for a whole. Surely they want to win games and not just give random minutes to fringe NRL players

Teams in title contention tend to play their best players. I don’t see any reason Mahoney won’t end the season with a top 5 hooker average and similar minutes to last year

FalconSloth wrote:With Arrow everyone is hoping he returns to gun levels but his highest ever average was 52 in 2019 and 50 the year before that. Even in his last year at the Titans he averaged 42.

I'd take 50's every week, ala Paul Vaughan

Milchcow wrote:

Last year other than the obvious rush to get Cleary and/or Turbo for those that didn't have them from their first game.
And when Cleary got injured again there were people who held him throughout, ditched him forever, or ditched him and get him back.

Lots of people avoided iPap
There was a wide range around when people traded Papenhuyzen out, or Nicho Hynes in. Everyone that did it early got rewarded but at the time that was a gamble.
Most people got Reece Walsh in early, but there would have been plenty of people that

Some people traded in Starling when he got a start at hooker, or worse, Zac Cini - both of which were mistakes.

The popular centres had wildly varying results. Between getting injured, having poor results, or actually doing well (in the case of Averillo, becoming a gun after many had traded him out)

Saying Starling in was a mistake and getting Hynes early for Papy is 2 sides of the same coin, with different outcomes. 1 got very unlucky, most of the time it was the right move, the other got very lucky, with Papy injured the game he came back, most of the time it was the wrong move.

multiple.scoregasms wrote:

Teams in title contention tend to play their best players. I don’t see any reason Mahoney won’t end the season with a top 5 hooker average and similar minutes to last year

This is the Eels potential title window, before they lose key players and the window closes.