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    NRL Fantasy 2022 Part 16 - That's a Starling Choice

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    Post by GarethEllisismyDad Wed Mar 23, 2022 7:38 pm

    Traded in Thompson myself, has passed the eye test and the ppm test and has had favourable injuries go his way ala josh king, cheap gamble and allowed me to offload a dud and upgrade another dud to starling

    No brainer
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    Post by Welshy Wed Mar 23, 2022 7:42 pm

    The Bludger#2 wrote:Big Leo is probably some kind of trap, but he's dirt cheap and allows coaches to shift dud pre-season choices to (hopefully) start some cash gen.
    The fact that so many are on him actually limits the potential damage having him can do to your team.
    If, however, the kid pulls out another 45 you'll be kicking stones for not jumping on.
    I learnt my lesson years ago when the Cowboys debuted a young forward and I ignored him for too many rounds - name of Coen Hess. 
    I've never forgiven him.


    Main issue with him being cheap is where you go if he absolutely bombs, you have to wait on a base player really and then it's another gamble on that guy being decent
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    Post by Aardvark Wed Mar 23, 2022 7:43 pm

    WT2K wrote:

    No Tago which has hurt too. Pondering if Tago is still worth bringing in or not.. as I'm not keen on playing Coates every week (Critta would go to wfb)

    Jumped on him last week with Amone and it allowed a bit of flexibility with all of the DPP centres hanging around in my team.....If he can keep banging out 30-40 from here I will be happy and who knew his edge DPP would be so handy

    I wouldn't be overly concerned about the shitty cows as they have an opportunity to come good....I would be more concerned about shitty mid rangers

    I don't think I have ever been ranked quite as low after a couple of rounds (maybe in my first year when I didn't know shit....maybe I've done too much research and fallen into a black hole where I actually know nothing again) so it will be interesting to have a look at how to crawl back (or not)....I think a couple of bold moves a couple of steady moves and leave the panicking to our leporine friend
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    Post by Shady2K Wed Mar 23, 2022 7:44 pm

    Liverpool_Bulldog wrote:

    Mahoney 1 (36) and 2 (51) for me

    Will he score 66 in week 3?

    Think he’ll go a bit better against the Storm…

    In saying that might put the armband on Hynes
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    Post by Liverpool_Bulldog Wed Mar 23, 2022 7:48 pm

    Shady2K wrote:

    Think he’ll go a bit better against the Storm…

    In saying that might put the armband on Hynes

    I think I’m moving to Hynes aswell this week
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    Post by Papadontbleach Wed Mar 23, 2022 7:48 pm

    Shady2K wrote:

    Think he’ll go a bit better against the Storm…

    In saying that might put the armband on Hynes

    Mahoney's tackles have been low but I think they'll pickup against the Storm. I'm captaining him for the third week in a row... maybe.
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    Post by L-Jimmy Wed Mar 23, 2022 7:48 pm

    rhinoceroo wrote:

    They both look pretty good tbh. Thompson might be great but he's also been a case study of a variety of behavioural effects and cognitive biases on here from fomo to group polarisation to halo to priming to various types of heuristic to plenty more behind.Thompson is probably a better option than Croker, but not to the extent that 98% of the discussion is about him.

    Tl/dr, if he scores 45 great, if he gets another 15 everyone's fucked.

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    Post by Chewie Wed Mar 23, 2022 7:49 pm

    ytsb wrote:When ranked 20k you may as well go balls to the wall. I am trading A. Crichton and Amone to Thompson and Starling (keeping Tuilagi over Amone which might be moronic). This allows me to straight swap Mahoney/D.fifi to Cleary next week.

    The kicker? I am currently playing all of Bullemor, Nanai, Ming, Thompson with Ilias, Coates, B.Smith, and Tuilagi on the pine who all have rubbish cash gen.

    I'll ride with you!
    Getting Cleary ASAP
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    Post by Shady2K Wed Mar 23, 2022 7:50 pm

    Papadontbleach wrote:

    Mahoney's tackles have been low but I think they'll pickup against the Storm.  I'm captaining him for the third week in a row... maybe.

    Was actually gonna flick him this week but Angus being benched made that decision for me. Reed for the bounce back
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    Post by mattnz Wed Mar 23, 2022 7:51 pm

    Welshy wrote:


    Main issue with him being cheap is where you go if he absolutely bombs, you have to wait on a base player really and then it's another gamble on that guy being decent

    Including trials we have seen him play 4 games, did well in all of them. Will get 30+ minutes each week the next few weeks. Has a BE of 1.
    No such thing as a certainty, but he is as good as we are getting for now.
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    Post by Welshy Wed Mar 23, 2022 7:55 pm

    mattnz wrote:

    Including trials we have seen him play 4 games, did well in all of them. Will get 30+ minutes each week the next few weeks. Has a BE of 1.
    No such thing as a certainty, but he is as good as we are getting for now.

    Yup, i'm backing him but getting in next week. Ming in first for me with Starling
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    Post by Aardvark Wed Mar 23, 2022 7:57 pm

    Shady2K wrote:

    Was actually gonna flick him this week but Angus being benched made that decision for me. Reed for the bounce back

    That's what I'm hoping.....still probably going to stick the c on Beanz
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    Post by Finger Puppet Mafia Wed Mar 23, 2022 7:59 pm

    Didn't realise Cleary has a BE of 60 odd. Fuck he could go up in price over the first couple of rounds he comes back.
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    Post by Liverpool_Bulldog Wed Mar 23, 2022 7:59 pm

    Atm leaning pretty heavily towards Clark leaving for Thompson and honestly it’s mainly for the 242k bank balance. I’m fairly certain they will score in a similar range aswell.

    Clark: 35-40
    Leo: 30-35

    Surely that’s worth the money in the bank
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    Post by Liverpool_Bulldog Wed Mar 23, 2022 8:00 pm

    Finger Puppet Mafia wrote:Didn't realise Cleary has a BE of 60 odd. Fuck he could go up in price over the first couple of rounds he comes back.

    It’s 80 odd isn’t it?
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    Post by mattnz Wed Mar 23, 2022 8:01 pm

    I like that Sharks are first up this week. Can assess if Hynes is a real captaincy option, then decide how hard I want to go after Cleary with my trades.
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    Post by Aardvark Wed Mar 23, 2022 8:05 pm

    I don't think anyone seriously thinks that Thompson is going to make them $150k from here (and yes i am trading him in for Russell) but what he does is fill a spot on the bench for a little while and if he makes $80-120k into the bargain then hooray.
    A red dot is not making any money or providing any cover and while $150k is the aim for all of your cows and goats, the reality is that some will make $250k and some will flop and if you can average out somewhere near $150k then great.
    Sometimes you have to take a swing knowing that the likelihood of success is slim.
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    Post by Mulvy Wed Mar 23, 2022 8:06 pm

    The Dolphin Conspiracies wrote:

    If you got him in Round One at 220 k I say good for you. So much uncertainty moving forward though. Even if he does keep spot 17 on the roster moving forward, there is no guarantee he will score enough to make it to 400k. For those who have there 30K already the equation is different. Mo money Mo problems if you are buying him to raise coin I say.

    Of course you're right, if you buy Thompson, ideally he'd make 150k. But remember ideally we want our cows to on average make 150k. Some might make 120k and some might make 180k+. An often overlooked aspect is the speed at which they'll make it. The sooner you make the money, the sooner you can bring in your next gun. Upgrades at the start of the year are way more powerful than ones later in the year due to the effect of compounding. Thompson making a quick 100k could be way better than say a Tuilagi who might eventually make money (or might not), but at what opportunity cost? I'm still hoping he makes 150k though..
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    Post by Liverpool_Bulldog Wed Mar 23, 2022 8:06 pm

    Cleary averaged 91 last year and looks like he’ll lose roughly 11 points from the KM/TB changes. So that brings it back to 80.

    I mean I’m sure he’ll find other avenues to score but hey
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    Post by Shady2K Wed Mar 23, 2022 8:08 pm

    Finger Puppet Mafia wrote:Didn't realise Cleary has a BE of 60 odd. Fuck he could go up in price over the first couple of rounds he comes back.

    83 BE

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