NRL Fantasy 2023 Part 1 - Just open up already

The Dolphin Conspiracies wrote:Keen to hear with the strong case for Cotter.

I love him as a player but the COWBOYS have so many forwards to fit into their rotation. Why are people picking him to increase his scoring?

Averages 57 as a starter priced at 52. Owned him last year and loved it but not sure I can fit him in to start this year. The only middle close to him on that team is Taumalolo, who I think is the preferred option to rest in a blow out game. Tamou, McLean, Hess, JTB, Neame aren't risks to Cotter's minutes

multiple.scoregasms wrote:

Averages 57 as a starter priced at 52. Owned him last year and loved it but not sure I can fit him in to start this year. The only middle close to him on that team is Taumalolo, who I think is the preferred option to rest in a blow out game. Tamou, McLean, Hess, JTB, Neame aren't risks to Cotter's minutes

I’m speculating and someone can fact check but he must average the most or hear most minutes of any actual middle

GarethEllisismyDad wrote:

I’m speculating and someone can fact check but he must average the most or hear most minutes of any actual middle

Misread that as heart and he’s got that too

Just worked out how to log on to the secret, shadow forum here.

Anyway, @Rabbits21 I think Suaalii is a wait and see at centre in that so much of his fantasy base is smashing the ball back early in sets and centre will probably take away from that, so he'll need to be a gamebreaking weapon, which he totally might be, but Roosters already have Teddy and Manu so those points could be shared around.

Was looking to wait until the Roosters bye, although if he really is the goods then you want his scores against the Dolphins and Warriors... Reluctant pass for mine.

rhinoceroo wrote:Just worked out how to log on to the secret, shadow forum here.

Anyway, @Rabbits21 I think Suaalii is a wait and see at centre in that so much of his fantasy base is smashing the ball back early in sets and centre will probably take away from that, so he'll need to be a gamebreaking weapon, which he totally might be, but Roosters already have Teddy and Manu so those points could be shared around.

Was looking to wait until the Roosters bye, although if he really is the goods then you want his scores against the Dolphins and Warriors... Reluctant pass for mine.

What’s the secret shadow forum and why when I click under my popular sites I visit it no longer brings me straight here?

Thanks mate re Suaali. I think he will avg about 39-40 at centre this year. I will defs have Cleary and one of Grant or Murray. My heart is telling me Murray and my head is telling me I’m confused God knows where I’ll land. Maybe the fact Souths have a hard draw and no early bye means I sway to Murray and he’s the best VC option when Cleary has the bye. He can cop a head knock though but I guess so can any player.

Getting Cleary and Murray would most likely mean I have to go very light on in the backs but I’ve done that before.

Current back 5

Reimis I. Thompson
Miller Savage Perham

Rabbits21 wrote:
What’s the secret shadow forum and why when I click under my popular sites I visit it no longer brings me straight here?

Don't worry, secret shadow forum is this one as long as the normal address isn't working...

Staggs played the end of last season with a shoulder injury. Could be a decent option for a cut price gun CTR coming back from an ACL a couple of seasons ago.

https://www.foxsports.com.au/nrl/nrl-premiership/nrl-2023-kotoni-staggs-shoulder-injury-surgery-return-date-brisbane-broncos-state-of-origin/news-story/1b6eca3e1811b422afcab4d6d4e62ccc

mattnz wrote:Staggs played the end of last season with a shoulder injury. Could be a decent option for a cut price gun CTR coming back from an ACL a couple of seasons ago.

https://www.foxsports.com.au/nrl/nrl-premiership/nrl-2023-kotoni-staggs-shoulder-injury-surgery-return-date-brisbane-broncos-state-of-origin/news-story/1b6eca3e1811b422afcab4d6d4e62ccc

He's the only 500k+ centre I'm interested in to start the season, although it's more likely at the moment that I'll go cheap.

He's still in red bib non-contact training at the moment.

A few people have mentioned there being value in MID, but I'm struggling to find any. B smith is an obvious one, but after that?? Any suggestions?

Holy Moly wrote:A few people have mentioned there being value in MID, but I'm struggling to find any. B smith is an obvious one, but after that?? Any suggestions?

probably the edge has more value than mids but in terms of mids i'd say:
e. clark 594k currently hok but if he starts at lock which seems likely he'll get dpp hok/mid
barnett 617k coach says he'll play a bit on the edge & a bit in the middle so to me he's a wait & see
nas 612k end of last season he did well on the edge & will get dpp if he starts on the edge but the storm have enough edge forwards so unlikely
l. thompson 612k has a big motor & someone will benefit with more mins cause jackson played 80 mins will it be him or will it be spread around cause the doggies have a starting pack that all have big motors including king, rfm, kikau, sutton, tpj
a. elliott 606k the knights lost klemmer & barnett who played big mins he's a no brainer imo
tpj 593k too volatile imo
horsburgh 590k with elliott & sutton gone does he start & establish himself as a lock playing 55-60 mins
gilbert 567k left the cowboys to become a flipper but depends where he starts lock or front row rotation
collins 536k with sst gone, watson suspected patella tendon injury which has the potential to wipe out his season & lodge on a train & trial deal as his contract is pending then collins could see bump in mins
sutton 491k refer l. thompson
nicholls 426k bennett confirmed he'll be starting prop
utoikamanu 396k good price if starts at prop
jack hetherington 362k rumoured to be starting edge if so will get dpp as currently classified as an edge fwd
sele 336k rabbits reckons he'll be starting prop which will be great value as price at 23 pts
ray stone 257k i thought i'd mention him he's excellent value if starting lock but gilbert could get the gig unless gilbert is used in the front row which he probably suits his game because he's not a ball player with a passing game he just tucks the ball in & runs hard

many of the above don't excite me but there is potential for some good options

White Lightning wrote:

probably the edge has more value than mids but in terms of mids i'd say:
e. clark 594k currently hok but if he starts at lock which seems likely he'll get dpp hok/mid
barnett 617k coach says he'll play a bit on the edge & a bit in the middle so to me he's a wait & see
nas 612k end of last season he did well on the edge & will get dpp if he starts on the edge but the storm have enough edge forwards so unlikely
l. thompson 612k has a big motor & someone will benefit with more mins cause jackson played 80 mins will it be him or will it be spread around cause the doggies have a starting pack that all have big motors including king, rfm, kikau, sutton, tpj
a. elliott 606k the knights lost klemmer & barnett who played big mins he's a no brainer imo
tpj 593k too volatile imo
horsburgh 590k with elliott & sutton gone does he start & establish himself as a lock playing 55-60 mins


gilbert 567k left the cowboys to become a flipper but depends where he starts lock or front row rotation
collins 536k with sst gone, watson suspected patella tendon injury which has the potential to wipe out his season & lodge on a train & trial deal as his contract is pending then collins could see bump in mins
sutton 491k refer l. thompson
nicholls 426k bennett confirmed he'll be starting prop
utoikamanu 396k good price if starts at prop
jack hetherington 362k rumoured to be starting edge if so will get dpp as currently classified as an edge fwd
sele 336k rabbits reckons he'll be starting prop which will be great value as price at 23 pts
ray stone 257k i thought i'd mention him he's excellent value if starting lock but gilbert could get the gig unless gilbert is used in the front row which he probably suits his game because he's not a ball player with a passing game he just tucks the ball in & runs hard

many of the above don't excite me but there is potential for some good options

Thanks for taking the time to share that White Lightning. I guess there is a lot of potential at MID but will have to wait until much closer to TLT.

What is everyone’s plan for their centres? Looks like you might have to go big this year as not much under 500k! I’ve got x3 300’s but none fill me with any confidence!

Reset My Password! wrote:What is everyone’s plan for their centres? Looks like you might have to go big this year as not much under 500k! I’ve got x3 300’s but none fill me with any confidence!

i wouldn't worry too much about it cause the 2 cheap ctr's tactic is commonly used so we're all in the same boat i've got atm r. smith, i. thompson with talau on my bench. just make sure your cheap ctr's play for a good team &/or have a good draw & for me storm, souths are top teams & talau has a good early draw with an improved pack so should get opportunities. to me at least 25 pts is acceptable in ctr if you're going cheap.

Reset My Password! wrote:What is everyone’s plan for their centres? Looks like you might have to go big this year as not much under 500k! I’ve got x3 300’s but none fill me with any confidence!

HTF
Thompson
Talau
Bulldogs- Alamoti/Skelton/Averillo
VTW

Personally gonna start with 2 or 3 of these guys (+ Sua'ali'i) and hope one can average 35. Nobody over 500k really excites me

mattnz wrote:Staggs played the end of last season with a shoulder injury. Could be a decent option for a cut price gun CTR coming back from an ACL a couple of seasons ago.

https://www.foxsports.com.au/nrl/nrl-premiership/nrl-2023-kotoni-staggs-shoulder-injury-surgery-return-date-brisbane-broncos-state-of-origin/news-story/1b6eca3e1811b422afcab4d6d4e62ccc

When Staggs is on he's exciting, but when he's bad he makes 5 runs for 33 metres and misses every tackle that comes his way

White Lightning wrote:

probably the edge has more value than mids but in terms of mids i'd say:
e. clark 594k currently hok but if he starts at lock which seems likely he'll get dpp hok/mid
barnett 617k coach says he'll play a bit on the edge & a bit in the middle so to me he's a wait & see
nas 612k end of last season he did well on the edge & will get dpp if he starts on the edge but the storm have enough edge forwards so unlikely
l. thompson 612k has a big motor & someone will benefit with more mins cause jackson played 80 mins will it be him or will it be spread around cause the doggies have a starting pack that all have big motors including king, rfm, kikau, sutton, tpj
a. elliott 606k the knights lost klemmer & barnett who played big mins he's a no brainer imo
tpj 593k too volatile imo
horsburgh 590k with elliott & sutton gone does he start & establish himself as a lock playing 55-60 mins
gilbert 567k left the cowboys to become a flipper but depends where he starts lock or front row rotation
collins 536k with sst gone, watson suspected patella tendon injury which has the potential to wipe out his season & lodge on a train & trial deal as his contract is pending then collins could see bump in mins
sutton 491k refer l. thompson
nicholls 426k bennett confirmed he'll be starting prop
utoikamanu 396k good price if starts at prop
jack hetherington 362k rumoured to be starting edge if so will get dpp as currently classified as an edge fwd
sele 336k rabbits reckons he'll be starting prop which will be great value as price at 23 pts
ray stone 257k i thought i'd mention him he's excellent value if starting lock but gilbert could get the gig unless gilbert is used in the front row which he probably suits his game because he's not a ball player with a passing game he just tucks the ball in & runs hard

many of the above don't excite me but there is potential for some good options

Niukore is also outstanding value - perhaps better than those previously mentioned.

Can't see Utoikamanu getting more minutes points than he did last year?

Gilbert is a copycat. I became a flipper well before it was cool but he represents good value either at MID (hopefully) or LOCK (please give it to Stone)

Reset My Password! wrote:What is everyone’s plan for their centres? Looks like you might have to go big this year as not much under 500k! I’ve got x3 300’s but none fill me with any confidence!

I am now planning Bird and Holmes with Manu (at WFB) and Suaali (if he gets DPP) as back up and Talau and Te Whare (if he gets a starting spot) in my 18-21. If Suaali gets DPP I might ditch Holmes but I reckon there is lots of value at HOK MID EDG and HLF so I have gone large at CTR & WFB

The Dolphin Conspiracies wrote:

Niukore is also outstanding value

i don't list anyone playing for the warriors it's 1 of my criteria when picking my team is don't pick any warriors players cause they're shite haha . anyway how many points are you expecting from niukore playing 25-35 mins off the bench. just taking his ppm of .67 as a rough guide say he plays 35 mins that's around 23 pts & he priced at 37 pts.

He will play 80 on the EDG. That is where you are going wrong

If Perham gets fullback, you dont want to miss him, averaged 45 last season in that position for Eels. Could be a season keeper for < $300k.