NRL Fantasy 2023 Part 1 - Just open up already

easytiger wrote:

It's kind've ironic that you may end up with a situation where you could own 14 players actively playing in the Round 13 bye, but only 10 count because of the positional restrictions caused by the 13-player limitation.

I don't really see any benefit in this change.

People are less likely to be able to field 13 players than if they'd left it as it was. Nobody is going to trade a hooker to a CTR just to get am extra scorer in the bye week.
And people will get pissed when bye round comes along and they realise their 2nd hooker with a green dot won't score for them

Milchcow wrote:

I don't really see any benefit in this change.

People are less likely to be able to field 13 players than if they'd left it as it was. Nobody is going to trade a hooker to a CTR just to get am extra scorer in the bye week.
And people will get pissed when bye round comes along and they realise their 2nd hooker with a green dot won't score for them

Ah yes, I did not think of the 13 player major bye round thing. I agree that keeping it at 17 players would be better. But I still think that not increasing the number of bench players is a great move. I do like it that people are discouraged from trading a HOK for a CTR for a easy cash/points grab with no implications. Longer term thinking will result in better rewards

The guy that won BBL Supercoach last year (Andrew / Diabolicalpoint) has won it again this year, back to back titles. Imagine creating a fantasy dynasty like that. Insane effort.

Camo123 wrote:

Note: In 2023 the interchange players scores will NOT count toward your team’s total for the designated Bye Rounds (13, 16 & 19). RIP benchwankery

Benchwankery will still work as long as any (all) green dots in your 14 to 21 can substitute into the relevant red dot positions in your starting 13. Having said that, you should probably only do it this year if you trust Failhub have got their auto-substitution system working correctly. I don't know that too many people have that level of trust

The Dolphin Conspiracies wrote:

But as I said, it discourages the most opportunistic form of looping - which is a great thing - it provides greater risk reward for those who identify an actual good option and stick to their convictions by acting on it early and works against coaches who use their 18-21 to loop the latest base price cheapie fad a few weeks after the fact instead of covering all positions

In other words MattNZ, you'll get this year's Talakai shitty afterglow all to yourself

Milchcow wrote:

I don't really see any benefit in this change.

People are less likely to be able to field 13 players than if they'd left it as it was. Nobody is going to trade a hooker to a CTR just to get am extra scorer in the bye week.
And people will get pissed when bye round comes along and they realise their 2nd hooker with a green dot won't score for them

Agree I traded hard at the bye rounds to get lots of points can’t remember how many players I had/ more than average for 13 and 17 but they certainly weren’t 1-13, seems counterintuitive to confine it

I bought the Talking League textbook quickly been through it 180 odd pages of good quality was only $19.95 with $4 going to bowel cancer research. I decided to get that instead of Coach this year which I find to be useless.

Current draft til trials now (I promise lol)

Robson
Murray Elliot Cheese
Wilton Garner
Cleary Hastings
Reimis I. Thompson
Perham Miller Savage

Boyd Hopgood Loreiro Doorey
TMM Blore Talau Sloan

5k itb

Pookus McFly wrote:The guy that won BBL Supercoach last year (Andrew / Diabolicalpoint) has won it again this year, back to back titles. Imagine creating a fantasy dynasty like that. Insane effort.

It’s not too hard to imagine…

Concussed wrote:

It’s not too hard to imagine…

1st chance I've had to look at it since it opened. This will do until TLT.

Jele wrote:

Jele gets it!

To be fair mate I saw there was a new VSDT thread and I thought I had clicked in there, where the post would have made more sense to “us lot” eh haha

Still, it stands as not that hard to imagine

Rabbits21 wrote:I bought the Talking League textbook quickly been through it 180 odd pages of good quality was only $19.95 with $4 going to bowel cancer research. I decided to get that instead of Coach this year which I find to be useless.

Current draft til trials now (I promise lol)

Robson
Murray Elliot Cheese
Wilton Garner
Cleary Hastings
Reimis I. Thompson
Perham Miller Savage

Boyd Hopgood Loreiro Doorey
TMM Blore Talau Sloan

5k itb

Nice!

Robson is an interesting one. Do you think he is coming off a career year? Can he back it up? He did score a lot of tries last year. Or are you picking him because of his good bye draw?

Does Wilton have enough value there? Do we know for sure he will play 80?

Honey Badger wrote:
Nice!

Robson is an interesting one. Do you think he is coming off a career year? Can he back it up? He did score a lot of tries last year. Or are you picking him because of his good bye draw?

Does Wilton have enough value there? Do we know for sure he will play 80?

I've thought about Robson because he has a little bit of value from lower minute games in the early part of last season, but then I thought... that might happen again? Hottest part of the season and particularly so in Townsville, might well not be playing 80 in the first month.

Anyway, there are a few decent mid-price hooker options, so unless something drastic happens I'd rather have Haas for that type of money and wait and see on Robson.

I'm barely tracking this thread and haven't even logged into NRL Fantasy yet, but it's looking much harder this season.

- R13/16/19 restricted to 13 I initially thought would hinder bye planners, but the positional limitation swings that back IMO
- R14/17/20 is going to be just as hard and is under-the-radar IMO. Possibly you can make more ground in those medium bye rounds than the big bye rounds the week before

Anyway, hard might not be good in the whole, but it should be relatively good for engaged players here versus the field.

I know 2020-2022 Rob would be loving the challenge and potential comparative advantage, even if he muffed it 2 in 3 of those years. Meanwhile 2023 Rob is a bit 'eh' on the whole thing and probably is the field.

What are our thoughts on starting with Haas?

He started 2022 on fire, averaging 70 in his first 6 games, then he did his AC joint and the rest is history. 809k is a steep price but given what he's capable of it may even be unders.

He also doesn't have any early byes, his first one is round 16 (though he would miss round 13 and probably 14 as well to Origin)

robelgordo wrote:I'm barely tracking this thread and haven't even logged into NRL Fantasy yet, but it's looking much harder this season.

- R13/16/19 restricted to 13 I initially thought would hinder bye planners, but the positional limitation swings that back IMO
- R14/17/20 is going to be just as hard and is under-the-radar IMO. Possibly you can make more ground in those medium bye rounds than the big bye rounds the week before

Anyway, hard might not be good in the whole, but it should be relatively good for engaged players here versus the field.

I know 2020-2022 Rob would be loving the challenge and potential comparative advantage, even if he muffed it 2 in 3 of those years. Meanwhile 2023 Rob is a bit 'eh' on the whole thing and probably is the field.

Agree that the bye scenario is going to be trickier than it seems and the play might be to try and get a consistent numbers across all byes rather than going for it

I threw up an autofill team the other day as a exercise but no bites....it's almost like no one around here takes me seriously.

The offence is palpable

Honey Badger wrote:
Nice!

Robson is an interesting one. Do you think he is coming off a career year? Can he back it up? He did score a lot of tries last year. Or are you picking him because of his good bye draw?

Does Wilton have enough value there? Do we know for sure he will play 80?

Robson in 30 something games when playing 70mins or more avg is 58. He has improved his running game as well. I think Robson will go as good again as last year I have him at about a 57 avg and yes him having a good bye draw is a factor. He still mightn’t remain in my team but he is there for now.

Haas first 6 games

2019 64 avg 66mins
2020 72 avg 74mins
2021 66 avg 63mins
2022 70 avg 66mins