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    NRL Fantasy 2023 Part 1 - Just open up already

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    Post by mattnz Wed Jan 25, 2023 2:20 pm

    Bethany_B wrote:On the topic of gun centres, I know a lot of people got burned holding Talakai too long but I will make the case that he is actually worth starting with if a certain condition is met.

    You see, if we look at the stats of Talakai and Mulitalo in 2022, there is a very clear pattern. In games where Wade Graham was not in the team, both of them averaged over 50 (67.8 for Talakai and 54 for Mulitalo), while when Wade Graham was in the team, they both averaged in the mid 30s (34.4 for Talakai and 35.6 for Mulitalo).

    Given that Wade himself has said that he wouldn't be in the 17 if it was picked now, there is at least some chance that he does not make the team for round one, and if that were to happen, then I think Talakai is worth it as a gun centre. Granted, there is always the risk that he gets back in, but who knows what will happen.

    Wade Graham is a huge handbrake on the Sharks left side, while on the other hand, Wilton is a vital component of that side's attack. If you go back and watch the Sharks games when Talakai was on his hot streak, have a look at Wilton in those attacking plays. His line running is exceptional and he doesn't get in the way like Wade does.

    TLDR: if Wade is not in the team round 1, Talakai is worth having.

    Something that would get me excited about Talakai is if we see him looking trim and fit in the preseason. He was getting gassed in a number of games, which wasn't surprising going from small minute forward to playing 80 at CTR.
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    Post by rhinoceroo Wed Jan 25, 2023 3:55 pm

    https://www.nrlfantasyfanatics.com/t1947-mattnz-s-circle-jerk-talakai-jizzathon
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    Post by StormTrooper96 Wed Jan 25, 2023 4:40 pm

    Lads and Ladettes,

    I have been away for quite some time. Started plummeting down the ranks halfway through last year and decided to step away from the game for a while. Built and moved into my new house and also had a baby boy over the Christmas holidays. With footy season fast approaching I though why not try and get back on the high horse and go for another round!!!

    Let's start ripping and tearin'.

    Here's to a good year all round, and hope to be here to provide plenty of insight and sponge some much needed information of the many antiques around here
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    Post by Snatchpato Wed Jan 25, 2023 4:57 pm

    Welcome back ST and congrats!! Both of thoes are huge milestones, and to cap off the best 12 months ever why not just win Fantasy this year?
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    Post by The Bludger#2 Wed Jan 25, 2023 6:27 pm

    StormTrooper96 wrote:Lads and Ladettes,

    I have been away for quite some time. Started plummeting down the ranks halfway through last year and decided to step away from the game for a while. Built and moved into my new house and also had a baby boy over the Christmas holidays. With footy season fast approaching I though why not try and get back on the high horse and go for another round!!!

    Let's start ripping and tearin'.

    Here's to a good year all round, and hope to be here to provide plenty of insight and sponge some much needed information of the many antiques around here

    Welcome back Stormtrooper and congrats on the birth of your boy.
    (I'm sure you had a tough time of the whole experience ... Coffee )

    Building a house as well, you are a sucker for punishment.
    I reckon this year you could win it all - you'll have so much free time on your hands.
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    Post by GarethEllisismyDad Wed Jan 25, 2023 7:26 pm

    WT2K wrote:

    Poor guy, hope he comes back

    Sloan firms up as wfb extended squad

    Wonder if he’ll turn out good for dragons, let alone fantasy
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    Post by Holy Moly Wed Jan 25, 2023 10:17 pm

    Damn. I wish I had something interesting to say about fantasy.
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    Post by Milchcow Wed Jan 25, 2023 11:11 pm


    Incidentally, the same guy who said that Matamua trained at lock for the Tigers also said that Joe Ofahengaue didn't train that day

    Lock him in boys.
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    Post by Rabbits21 Thu Jan 26, 2023 2:09 am

    StormTrooper96 wrote:Lads and Ladettes,

    I have been away for quite some time. Started plummeting down the ranks halfway through last year and decided to step away from the game for a while. Built and moved into my new house and also had a baby boy over the Christmas holidays. With footy season fast approaching I though why not try and get back on the high horse and go for another round!!!

    Let's start ripping and tearin'.

    Here's to a good year all round, and hope to be here to provide plenty of insight and sponge some much needed information of the many antiques around here
    Hey mate congrats on the bub you must be oh so proud that’s brilliant news. Did all go well with the birth and how is baby and your missus doing? And also a big congrats on the house it would’ve been a nightmare getting that all organised you need great patience.
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    Post by rhinoceroo Thu Jan 26, 2023 8:07 am

    Quick question, not sure if it's addressed anywhere: in the big bye rounds where you play 13 players, do they all have to be in the starting 13 positions or can they be any position? Eg. if you have 13 players but none of them are centres (or 3 of them are hookers) are you running with 11 that week?
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    Post by Holy Moly Thu Jan 26, 2023 8:16 am

    rhinoceroo wrote:Quick question, not sure if it's addressed anywhere: in the big bye rounds where you play 13 players, do they all have to be in the starting 13 positions or can they be any position? Eg. if you have 13 players but none of them are centres (or 3 of them are hookers) are you running with 11 that week?


    "Bye round (13, 16 & 19) score reduced to 13 players (not 17), where 13 on field players will contribute to the total of the fantasy score, with standard auto-emergency substitution in play. Regular substitutions & trades can be done during the round,"

    I'm interpreting that as they must be in the positions
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    Post by Camo123 Thu Jan 26, 2023 8:18 am

    Holy Moly wrote:


    "Bye round (13, 16 & 19) score reduced to 13 players (not 17), where 13 on field players will contribute to the total of the fantasy score, with standard auto-emergency substitution in play. Regular substitutions & trades can be done during the round,"

    I'm interpreting that as they must be in the positions

    Yeah it says standard auto emergency substitution so CTR on field wouldn’t be able to be replaced by non CTR
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    Post by rhinoceroo Thu Jan 26, 2023 8:35 am

    Camo123 wrote:

    Yeah it says standard auto emergency substitution so CTR on field wouldn’t be able to be replaced by non CTR

    Well that's irritating. Nobody is going to have 13 in the big byes and 17 in the small ones unless they're running several centres in their EMGs or spending a fair few trades on them, neither of which would be worth it.
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    Post by Camo123 Thu Jan 26, 2023 8:53 am

    rhinoceroo wrote:

    Well that's irritating. Nobody is going to have 13 in the big byes and 17 in the small ones unless they're running several centres in their EMGs or spending a fair few trades on them, neither of which would be worth it.

    Note: In 2023 the interchange players scores will NOT count toward your team’s total for the designated Bye Rounds (13, 16 & 19). RIP benchwankery

    In the rules in interchange player section

    Hmm so to actually get a full team you’d need 5 CTR/WFB, seems completely illogical to target bye rounds but DPP players will be super useful in the bye rounds
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    Post by easytiger Thu Jan 26, 2023 8:54 am

    rhinoceroo wrote:

    Well that's irritating. Nobody is going to have 13 in the big byes and 17 in the small ones unless they're running several centres in their EMGs or spending a fair few trades on them, neither of which would be worth it.

    It's kind've ironic that you may end up with a situation where you could own 14 players actively playing in the Round 13 bye, but only 10 count because of the positional restrictions caused by the 13-player limitation.
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    Post by Holy Moly Thu Jan 26, 2023 9:18 am

    Yeah, it's gonna be some kind of fantasy year. Throw in last minute withdrawals and injuries...
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    Post by The Dolphin Conspiracies Thu Jan 26, 2023 10:55 am

    Camo123 wrote:

    Note: In 2023 the interchange players scores will NOT count toward your team’s total for the designated Bye Rounds (13, 16 & 19). RIP benchwankery

    In the rules in interchange player section

    Hmm so to actually get a full team you’d need 5 CTR/WFB, seems completely illogical to target bye rounds but DPP players will be super useful in the bye rounds

    All the more reason to go with 'gun' CTRs (or at least CTRs who are guaranteed to play and score relatively reliably) at the start of the year and use reliable cheapie DPPs (who are also likely to play each week) as back up. Gone are the days where you can fill your bench speculatively with players that may or may not play - or who may be just filling a position for a fee weeks for a cheap money grab. I like it!!!

    It discourages looping, as 18-21 are always potentially in play
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    Post by mattnz Thu Jan 26, 2023 11:01 am

    The Dolphin Conspiracies wrote:

    All the more reason to go with 'gun' CTRs (or at least CTRs who are guaranteed to play and score relatively reliably) at the start of the year and use reliable cheapie DPPs (who are also likely to play each week) as back up. Gone are the days where you can fill your bench speculatively with players that may or may not play - or who may be just filling a position for a fee weeks for a cheap money grab. I like it!!!

    It discourages looping, as 18-21 are always potentially in play

    It will mean you are looping almost every week, as you will almost always have 1 or 2 players on a bye.
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    Post by The Dolphin Conspiracies Thu Jan 26, 2023 11:07 am

    mattnz wrote:

    It will mean you are looping almost every week, as you will almost always have 1 or 2 players on a bye.

    But as I said, it discourages the most opportunistic form of looping - which is a great thing - it provides greater risk reward for those who identify an actual good option and stick to their convictions by acting on it early and works against coaches who use their 18-21 to loop the latest base price cheapie fad a few weeks after the fact instead of covering all positions


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