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    Post by mattnz Wed Feb 15, 2023 9:29 am

    Bethany_B wrote:

    You're inefficiently using money on guys that aren't that good. I would make the following changes:

    * Hammer down to Soni Luke and put Alamoti at starting CTR - Alamoti will score just as well if not better and you free up $122k

    * CNK down to Khan-Pereira and just play HSS at WFB if you don't want to play AKP, CNK is alright but again, you're paying $142k more for not that many more points.

    * Egan Butcher to Teig Wilton - Wilton is likely to start on the edge for the Sharks and actually scored alright even with Wade Graham there as long as he was starting with Wade on the bench. This frees up another $26k

    Take that $290k you've just freed up ($314k bank with what you have before) and then do the following upgrades:

    * Mahoney to Haas (play Cheese at HOK), this leaves you $138k and gets you a 10 point increase in scoring (Haas is fully fit and should average low 60s, Mahoney probably averages 50-52 at best)

    * Cotter to Murray, Murray has a much bigger ceiling than Cotter does and is much more likely to get big enough mins, especially with Havili's injury. Also as a Souths fan you'll have more fun owning him Very Happy

    This leaves you with a stacked MID line while everyone else is messing around with cheapies and middies, and you aren't really giving up much to do it. Your side would look like this:

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    Haas, Murray, Tapine
    Wilton, Garner
    Cleary, Burton
    Thompson, Alamoti
    Miller, Perham, HSS

    Hopgood, Boyd, Loiero, Uto

    Luke, Doorey, Sloan, AKP

    Wilton is decent, averaged 49 as starting EDG, but that may be a bit lower this season with Graham probably stealing minutes often.

    Egan is likely to be a beast now that he finally has his starting shot, especially the way that the Roosters tend to play their EDG players, often rotating them through defending in the MID while on the field as EDG in attack. He has every chance of being an elite EDG in fantasy in the 55+ points range, well worth the extra $26k over Wilton.

    If he drops from 0.94 PPM to an 80 minute EDG role at just 0.7 PPM he is hitting a 56 point average, with upside potential from there.


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    Post by GarethEllisismyDad Wed Feb 15, 2023 9:35 am

    If Danny Levi gets the starting gig at Canberra are we on board, he’s priced at 319k, break even of 22,

    He’s named starting hooker in final trial, it piqued my interest to see that
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    Post by rhinoceroo Wed Feb 15, 2023 9:40 am

    mattnz wrote:

    Wilton is decent, averaged 49 as starting EDG, but that may be a bit lower this season with Graham probably stealing minutes often.

    Egan is likely to be a beast now that he finally has his starting shot, especially the way that the Roosters tend to play their EDG players, often rotating them through defending in the MID while on the field as EDG in attack. He has every chance of being an elite EDG in fantasy in the 55+ points range, well worth the extra $26k over Wilton.

    If he drops from 0.94 PPM to an 80 minute EDG role at just 0.7 PPM he is hitting a 56 point average, with upside potential from there.

    Number of edges who averaged 55+ last year: 1
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    Post by Reklaw Wed Feb 15, 2023 9:40 am

    GarethEllisismyDad wrote:If Danny Levi gets the starting gig at Canberra are we on board, he’s priced at 319k, break even of 22,

    He’s named starting hooker in final trial, it piqued my interest to see that

    Surely not with Starling, Woolford and even Frawley lurking.
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    Post by Milchcow Wed Feb 15, 2023 9:41 am


    The risk of Egan Butcher is nobody knows how long Angus Crichton will be out for. There's been nothing official out of the Roosters, its all just guesswork and rumours about what is going on.

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    Post by mattnz Wed Feb 15, 2023 9:43 am

    GarethEllisismyDad wrote:If Danny Levi gets the starting gig at Canberra are we on board, he’s priced at 319k, break even of 22,

    He’s named starting hooker in final trial, it piqued my interest to see that

    Can't see Starling's role changing, he averaged 47 minutes off the bench last year. That would leave Levi with 33 minutes, with a PPM around 0.6, he could easily lose cash!
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    Post by Milchcow Wed Feb 15, 2023 9:45 am

    rhinoceroo wrote:

    Number of edges who averaged 55+ last year: 1

    Isaiah Papali'i, Angus Crichton and David Fifita all averaged 55+ when starting on the edge.
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    Post by GarethEllisismyDad Wed Feb 15, 2023 9:46 am

    mattnz wrote:

    Can't see Starling's role changing, he averaged 47 minutes off the bench last year. That would leave Levi with 33 minutes, with a PPM around 0.6, he could easily lose cash!

    Reasonable, and makes sense,

    Woolford isn’t named in the extended subs even for trial, and I haven’t seen any injury reports on him,

    Aye if starling is continuing to average huge mins it’s obviously a NoGo, will be interested to see how they use them
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    Post by rhinoceroo Wed Feb 15, 2023 9:50 am

    Milchcow wrote:

    Isaiah Papali'i, Angus Crichton and David Fifita all averaged 55+ when starting on the edge.

    That wasn't the statement though?

    You think Egan Butcher is less likely to spend time on the interchange bench in 2023 than internationals Angus Crichton and David Fifita were in 2022?

    Butcher could be a fantasy gun, btw, if he's a regular starter. But 55+ is a little toppy for an estimate.
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    Post by the_great_wobbler Wed Feb 15, 2023 10:21 am

    rhinoceroo wrote:

    That wasn't the statement though?

    You think Egan Butcher is less likely to spend time on the interchange bench in 2023 than internationals Angus Crichton and David Fifita were in 2022?

    Butcher could be a fantasy gun, btw, if he's a regular starter. But 55+ is a little toppy for an estimate.

    Egan Butcher currently with a 63 career average when starting (1 game sample size  Cool )

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    Post by No Worries Wed Feb 15, 2023 10:25 am

    Alamoti has me thinking

    He's not even listed in Fantasy
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    Post by mattnz Wed Feb 15, 2023 10:34 am

    the_great_wobbler wrote:

    Egan Butcher currently with a 63 career average when starting (1 game sample size  Cool )


    70 minutes, 56 tackles, beast!
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    Post by Lchy Wed Feb 15, 2023 10:36 am

    No Worries wrote:Alamoti has me thinking

    He's not even listed in Fantasy

    The one in 34% of teams? Or does he have a brother
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    Post by No Worries Wed Feb 15, 2023 10:50 am

    Lchy wrote:

    The one in 34% of teams? Or does he have a brother

    Nope same one.

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    Post by ShadowSabre Wed Feb 15, 2023 10:59 am

    No Worries wrote:

    Nope same one.

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    You sure you don't already have him in your team on the bench or something and don't realise?

    If you already have them, then nothing shows up when you search.

    Happened to me before lol
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    Post by Aardvark Wed Feb 15, 2023 11:01 am

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    Mulvy doesn't understand Very Happy

    Nailed it! Reference to me putting a pretend line through Schuster once he referred to himself as 'Josh Schuster' in an interview yesterday (interestingly, for nerds like me, it's called an Illeism)
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    Post by No Worries Wed Feb 15, 2023 11:07 am

    ShadowSabre wrote:

    You sure you don't already have him in your team on the bench or something and don't realise?

    If you already have them, then nothing shows up when you search.

    Happened to me before lol

    Look at the brain on Brad.

    I did start with an autofill and have been tinkering. That's my excuse
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    Post by Aardvark Wed Feb 15, 2023 11:13 am

    GarethEllisismyDad wrote:If Danny Levi gets the starting gig at Canberra are we on board, he’s priced at 319k, break even of 22,

    He’s named starting hooker in final trial, it piqued my interest to see that

    Maybe, with the disclaimer that Danny Levi has a long history of not being very good at fantasy scoring (also football IMO) and his appearance in the second trial for me indicates that none of the Raiders hookers are going to be relevant until we get a clearer picture of what ricky is going to do ( Very Happy )

    Also Levi is fond of an Illeism
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    Post by No Worries Wed Feb 15, 2023 11:23 am

    Aardvark wrote:

    Nailed it! Reference to me putting a pretend line through Schuster once he referred to himself as 'Josh Schuster' in an interview yesterday (interestingly, for nerds like me, it's called an Illeism)

    Is Illesim speaking of one's self in the third person or putting a pretend line through something ?
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    Post by Aardvark Wed Feb 15, 2023 11:26 am

    No Worries wrote:

    Is Illesim speaking of one's self in the third person or putting a pretend line through something ?

    The former...putting a pretend line though something is a 'wankerism geek '

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