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    NRL Fantasy 2023 Part 4 - It's go time !

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    Post by robelgordo Wed Feb 22, 2023 11:40 pm

    I’m kinda intrigued, how does cash for a player work? On the salary cap? Into the club coffers for training gear and mad Monday? Pay parking fines?

    I’d be keeping Young for the year if they aren’t offering Collins or a Butcher. Or Angus I suppose.

    Don’t really like these deals. Feels like the comp hasn’t been this uneven since the 80s. There’s a bunch of teams that seem unlikely to fall far and can get their guys, and a bunch that are stuck at the bottom hoping to strike gold and have a fluke run before the good teams swoop in.
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    Post by Krump Wed Feb 22, 2023 11:51 pm

    robelgordo wrote:I’m kinda intrigued, how does cash for a player work? On the salary cap? Into the club coffers for training gear and mad Monday? Pay parking fines?

    I’d be keeping Young for the year if they aren’t offering Collins or a Butcher. Or Angus I suppose.

    Don’t really like these deals. Feels like the comp hasn’t been this uneven since the 80s. There’s a bunch of teams that seem unlikely to fall far and can get their guys, and a bunch that are stuck at the bottom hoping to strike gold and have a fluke run before the good teams swoop in.
    Training gear and mad Monday as far as I know. I agree with you on the the comp being unfair, I’m losing interest in it at a rapid pace since Vlandys ball.
    It’s all well and good to say the lower teams should get their act together but the fact is they need help. I’d say the broncos and panthers are the only teams that could truely go it alone of it was a fair comp off the top of my head. There needs to be a draft or huge incentives to teams that develop talent to make it fairer.
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    Post by Krump Wed Feb 22, 2023 11:52 pm

    Whatever happened to the footy department soft cap that was meant to happen a few years ago? Mysteriously disappear under a rug?
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    Post by No Worries Thu Feb 23, 2023 7:39 am

    Krump wrote:Whatever happened to the footy department soft cap that was meant to happen a few years ago? Mysteriously disappear under a rug?

    Introduced in 2018 $5.7M operastions cap. Clubs had until 2020 to get their costs in order.lIf they didnt they wouldl be taxed 37 per cent tax on whatever they overspend by.

    How high do you need me to lift the rug ?
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    Post by Finch Thu Feb 23, 2023 8:55 am

    Morning folks

    Only getting into Fantasy now, auto created a team and will start making it on TLT next week

    Just wondering what the general consensus was regarding byes? I'm assuming a player/team who has their first bye later in the season is a better buy than someone who has a bye in the first month or so, correct?
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    Post by my tv broke Thu Feb 23, 2023 8:57 am

    Finch wrote:Just wondering what the general consensus was regarding byes? I'm assuming a player/team who has their first bye later in the season is a better buy than someone who has a bye in the first month or so, correct?

    Yeah pretty much - although I'm not against the idea of a few players with early byes as you would hope not to have too many duds stuck in your team in rounds 1/2/3 and can cover them easily.
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    Post by Revraiser Thu Feb 23, 2023 9:03 am

    Aardvark wrote:

    Exactly….check the championship & league one in England for premier league teams bought by incredibly rich owners promising the world but then proceeding to mistake their arses for their elbows.

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    Post by Bethany_B Thu Feb 23, 2023 9:13 am

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    Yeah pretty much - although I'm not against the idea of a few players with early byes as you would hope not to have too many duds stuck in your team in rounds 1/2/3 and can cover them easily.

    Round 1 and 2 byes are probably the easiest to cover, Round 3-6 will be a pain and after that it shouldn't be too bad until Origin

    In the Origin period, round 14, 17 and 20 will catch out a lot of people as a lot of teams who play the big bye weeks have byes then (Eels Knights and Manly in 14, Sharks Dogs and Tigers in 17, Raiders Dragons and Souths in 20)
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    Post by my tv broke Thu Feb 23, 2023 9:15 am

    Tbh impossible to say which weeks will be easier or harder than others once you add in the unforeseen's like 1 week suspensions, concussions, player getting dropped or moved around positionally, etc.
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    Post by robelgordo Thu Feb 23, 2023 9:22 am

    In a vacuum I totally think it’s easier to manage 3 Panthers with a R3 bye than 3 Storm players with a R9(ish) bye
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    Post by rhinoceroo Thu Feb 23, 2023 9:26 am

    The long bye period does seem to be more a May/June problem than a February problem, but holistically the season is probably going to be less of a "race to the best 17" than it's been previously, because you can only really do that after Round 20.

    So - thinking aloud - split the season into three - use not too many trades to get a decent but not perfect squad for the first 12 weeks, blitz the byes for scores and profit, then buy back the guns for the run home. Easy?

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    Post by No Worries Thu Feb 23, 2023 9:28 am

    @Finch Will you be joining the Leagues this year ?

    https://www.nrlfantasyfanatics.com/t2084-nrl-ff-2023-registration-late-comers-leagues

    As for byes, other than round 1 and not picking Dragons players except maybe Sloane people are just making sure they have cover
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    Post by rhinoceroo Thu Feb 23, 2023 9:29 am

    robelgordo wrote:In a vacuum I totally think it’s easier to manage 3 Panthers with a R3 bye than 3 Storm players with a R9(ish) bye

    Yes if the Storm players are Grant, Munster and Hughes

    If they're Warbrick, Katoa and Loiero you're likely to have sold at least a couple of them by then?
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    Post by Holzman Thu Feb 23, 2023 9:30 am

    robelgordo wrote:In a vacuum I totally think it’s easier to manage 3 Panthers with a R3 bye than 3 Storm players with a R9(ish) bye

    in terms of numbers potentially true. However, you should have better bench cover I imagine by Round 9 so in theory your replacing players with higher scoring cover.
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    Post by Fraser Thu Feb 23, 2023 9:32 am

    Most of the players you start with won't be in your team by origin anyway so I wouldn't stress to much about byes just yet. My advice would be to make sure you have bye cover the first few rounds and reassess when you are making trades down the track, then alter these trades to suit your team moving forward at that time. Too much will change to bother planning to far ahead just yet.
    Basically pick who you think will score you the most points now and worry about byes later.
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    Post by Bethany_B Thu Feb 23, 2023 9:46 am

    rhinoceroo wrote:

    Yes if the Storm players are Grant, Munster and Hughes

    If they're Warbrick, Katoa and Loiero you're likely to have sold at least a couple of them by then?

    Yeah right now I have four of them (Warbrick, Katoa, Loiero and NAS) and odds are I will have sold at least two of them by the round 9 bye - definitely NAS and probably Warbrick by then too depending on when Papy's due back (my guess is round 10 after the bye but obviously could be later)
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    Post by L-Jimmy Thu Feb 23, 2023 9:46 am

    The only bye thinking I'm doing is starting with Teddy, so I can Teddy->Turbo if needed around their early byes.

    But mostly because Teddy is maybe the only WFB gun this year.
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    Post by Bethany_B Thu Feb 23, 2023 9:50 am

    L-Jimmy wrote:The only bye thinking I'm doing is starting with Teddy, so I can Teddy->Turbo if needed around their early byes.

    But mostly because Teddy is maybe the only WFB gun this year.

    I probably wouldn't be using Teddy as the guy to get Turbo, if you start with Teddy it's because you think he's the best WFB and thus worth keeping (wish I listened to that last year lol)

    NAS is the one I have now who I would sell to get Turbo if he looks the goods, the timing seems like it'll work right - NAS has good matchups round 1-4 and Kamikamica + Sims are due back thereabouts, and by then we will have had a couple games to look at Turbo.

    if NAS fails to fire or gets himself suspended then the exit plan is to go early on Turbo or go down to a cheapie if I need to.
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    Post by L-Jimmy Thu Feb 23, 2023 9:55 am

    Hey, I'm happy staying with Teddy. Not least because he's likely the only back to score 1200 fantasy points this year.
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    Post by Bethany_B Thu Feb 23, 2023 9:57 am

    L-Jimmy wrote:Hey, I'm happy staying with Teddy. Not least because he's likely the only back to score 1200 fantasy points this year.

    Yeah of course, I just don't think it's worth using him to get Turbo. I'm personally not starting him because teams seem to defend better at the start of the year so WFB scoring is more volatile, but I will want to get him in round 5-7 if I can.

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