NRL Fantasy 2023 Part 11 - The case of the mistrusted team lists

Milchcow wrote:

Set Bird and Forget how bad Mbye is as Fantasy?

ShadowSabre wrote:Can someone give some insight into Lemuelu.

Is there a world where we all just assume minutes won't be there and we kick ourselves for missing such a good set and forget CTR option as his price balloons? Or is that really low likelihood?

Looks to have the same role as Preston currently - 50 minute bench EDG. He just scored better week 1 and costs $200k more, available at CTR.

easytiger wrote:We all would like a couple of good set-and-forget centres.

The way I figure it;
Bird = $600k - expecting a floor average of 40, hoping for a 50 average?

HSS/Alamoti/Talau - any two of those = $500k - expecting a worst case floor of 40 (i.e. 20 average each) - more likely scenario is 50-60 points combined average (i.e. 25-30 each), with a best case higher than that.

I can handle a couple of duds in my line-up this early on, and I'd rather spend the $100k difference elsewhere

The main difference here is that HAA/Alamoti take up 2 spots in your squad. If you're getting Bird you also get another scorer too.

easytiger wrote:We all would like a couple of good set-and-forget centres.

The way I figure it;
Bird = $600k - expecting a floor average of 40, hoping for a 50 average?

HSS/Alamoti/Talau - any two of those = $500k - expecting a worst case floor of 40 (i.e. 20 average each) - more likely scenario is 50-60 points combined average (i.e. 25-30 each), with a best case higher than that.

I can handle a couple of duds in my line-up this early on, and I'd rather spend the $100k difference elsewhere

My thoughts exactly, but articulated better. The only caveat is when you get the trash centres that can't hold their job. Alamoti and HSS seem reasonably safe for the next couple of weeks.

ShadowSabre wrote:Can someone give some insight into Lemuelu.

Is there a world where we all just assume minutes won't be there and we kick ourselves for missing such a good set and forget CTR option as his price balloons? Or is that really low likelihood?

I reckon the role continues. Looked like a planned change to sub Gilbert off with KBrom moving to middle.

The only thing that may confuse later game subs there is the Wallace HIA. But maybe Nicholls simply wouldn't have come back onto the field.. who knows.

But then you've still got a 50 min edge forward at best (who looked great) but probably doesn't go as hard and score a try every week.

Milchcow wrote:

Set Bird and Forget how bad Mbye is as Fantasy?

If Lemuelu is named as starting EDG with KBrom at 10 for Wallace, I probably find a way to get him into my side.

Probably the best comparison of what to expect from him in the current role would be Luki off the bench > 40 minutes, which was a 35 average.

Milchcow wrote:

The main difference here is that HAA/Alamoti take up 2 spots in your squad. If you're getting Bird you also get another scorer too.

Hmm, good point. Yeah if you have someone like Cartwright or Trindall, or probably even Doorey in your 18-21 who you can promote it makes some sense I guess. I currently have no centre cover and could easily trade out an injured Smith or suspended Butcher if that had have eventuated, promote Doorey and move one of the trash centres to npr as cover, if I had the cash, which I don't. But yeah if you have say Garner and enough cash to turn him into Bird and promote one of the aforementioned guys, then it's a decent shout.

I didn’t start the season with Loiero, should I jump on the wagon now?

Milchcow wrote:

Liverpool_Bulldog wrote:Bird and Mbye at CTR? Set and forget

Set Bird and Forget how bad Mbye is as Fantasy?

Nice, haha.

I am seriously considering MBye though. A 300k "Centre" that averages 30's this year is seeming like a Godsend. My concern is Liddle becomes the starting Hooker when Hook realises how bad MBye is as an actual footy player though.

If I had Bird as my other Centre like LB I would defs be taking the risk I think.

Garner to Ford pretty likely for me I think.

Then I think I will have to join the Carty party.

Do expect that Matto probably goes into edge upon return but even two weeks of 40s for Carty is $100k. Type of situation I would usually pass on, but 44 trades this year and all...

Would need to be at the expense of either Talau or Uto. Talau would mean no centre cover but probably where I am leaning.

The fact that I have an 18-21 of Doorey, Alamoti, Katoa, and Taulau frightens the fuck out of me considering I have to play one of them (Doorey) next round and two of them in R4. Lots can change but I think there is some merit in sacrificing Smith for a Ford/Loiero and some cash money in the bank for a solid 18th man.

standard-issue wrote:

Nice, haha.

I am seriously considering MBye though.  A 300k "Centre" that averages 30's this year is seeming like a Godsend.  My concern is Liddle becomes the starting Hooker when Hook realises how bad MBye is as an actual footy player though.

If I had Bird as my other Centre like LB I would defs be taking the risk I think.

Don't do it man. Surely Liddle gets a decent slice of the minutes and likely becomes the starting hooker sooner rather than later.

I don't think you could even bank on a 30 average if Mbye plays 50mins at hooker (last year avg 54mins at hooker for 28pts, including a 16 pointer in 48 minutes )

Matto was playing middle all last year. Unless Carty starts really playing shit, you would think that would continue when he returns, but no one really knows.

BCT05 wrote:

standard-issue wrote:

Nice, haha.

I am seriously considering MBye though.  A 300k "Centre" that averages 30's this year is seeming like a Godsend.  My concern is Liddle becomes the starting Hooker when Hook realises how bad MBye is as an actual footy player though.

If I had Bird as my other Centre like LB I would defs be taking the risk I think.

Don't do it man. Surely Liddle gets a decent slice of the minutes and likely becomes the starting hooker sooner rather than later.

I don't think you could even bank on a 30 average if Mbye plays 50mins at hooker (last year avg 54mins at hooker for 28pts, including a 16 pointer in 48 minutes )

But that's like 8 points more than my current Centres averages

standard-issue wrote:

Nice, haha.

I am seriously considering MBye though.  A 300k "Centre" that averages 30's this year is seeming like a Godsend.  My concern is Liddle becomes the starting Hooker when Hook realises how bad MBye is as an actual footy player though.

If I had Bird as my other Centre like LB I would defs be taking the risk I think.

What ever happened to Mbye? He looked like he was going to be the next big thing for a little while there at least.

Spectre wrote:I didn’t start the season with Loiero, should I jump on the wagon now?

I am also wondering this, I might have to go back and watch the game again, seems like so long ago and drinks were had.

Mulvy wrote:

standard-issue wrote:

Nice, haha.

I am seriously considering MBye though.  A 300k "Centre" that averages 30's this year is seeming like a Godsend.  My concern is Liddle becomes the starting Hooker when Hook realises how bad MBye is as an actual footy player though.

If I had Bird as my other Centre like LB I would defs be taking the risk I think.

What ever happened to Mbye? He looked like he was going to be the next big thing for a little while there at least.

Yeah, loved him before his Tigers days and thought it was a great move to get him. We offered him insane money and then the Captaincy. Might have got ahead of himself, but who knows.

BCT05 wrote:Garner to Ford pretty likely for me I think.

Then I think I will have to join the Carty party.

Do expect that Matto probably goes into edge upon return but even two weeks of 40s for Carty is $100k. Type of situation I would usually pass on, but 44 trades this year and all...

Would need to be at the expense of either Talau or Uto. Talau would mean no centre cover but probably where I am leaning.

Does Talau really provide that much cover though? 15 points vs a 0? It's like paying 10k a year car insurance for a 15k car.