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    NRL Fantasy 2023 Part 16 - Does anyone have a case of Fig Jam? Looking to buy

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    Post by Chewie Thu Mar 16, 2023 1:44 pm

    multiple.scoregasms wrote:

    Nah I think he gets a bit of a rest this week. Still probably good for 65 minutes 50+ points

    I'm going with Hopgood as my captaincy pick, he may get less minutes, but he's also due a Try Wink


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    Post by Liverpool_Bulldog Thu Mar 16, 2023 1:47 pm

    Chewie wrote:

    I like MS's fullback tier list:

    Tier 1
    Teddy, Turbo, Papy, Latrell, Ponga

    Tier 2
    Edwards, Brimson, Gutho, Walsh

    Tier 3
    Drinkwater, Kennedy

    Tier 4
    Laurie, CNK, Savage

    Tier 5
    Hammer, Miller, Ramsay, Sloan, Perham

    I think Walsh could be a good WFB3, other options outside the FBs are Kiraz and Garick
    If you don't have any other fires to tend to, I think Walsh is a good shout
    Ahhh yes I do remember this list. I agree that Walsh is a better option than Perham in the long run but I’m also interested in making a bit of cash in the short term. If I go with Perham I’d hope he can average close to 35-40, that should make a suitable amount of gains
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    Post by Guest Thu Mar 16, 2023 1:48 pm

    Chewie wrote:

    I'm going with Hopgood as my captaincy pick, he may get less minutes, but he's also due a Try Wink


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    Post by Chewie Thu Mar 16, 2023 1:49 pm

    easytiger wrote:Just some curious stats I was wondering about with regards to a selection of topical fullbacks - I was curious as to their fantasy averages when they score tries vs when they don't;

    The sample is generally the number of games they have played in the 2022-2023 seasons, with the following additions.
    * HTF: I included three 2021 games as they seemed to be appropriate, boosts his sample size (and not doped by Vlandy's ball)
    * Turbo: I included six 2020 games, again to improve a representative sample (and also seemed appropriate to his 2022-2023 stats).

    SampleTry RateNoTry AveTry AveTry vs NoTry diffCostPriced @Proj Try rateProjection
    Tedesco2540%43.866.522.7 $        707 50.540%52.9
    Miller633%37.063.026.0 $        451 32.235%46.1
    Turbo1443%32.453.220.8 $        631 45.150%42.8
    HTF1050%28.650.021.4 $        452 32.350%39.3
    Walsh2211%32.942.89.9 $        545 38.950%37.9
    With Walsh I have removed his GK from his averages (-4.2 pts per game, and dropped his average kick metres points down from 3 to 2), I have boosted his try scoring rate from 11% to a high-rate of 50%.

    I'm using Tedesco as a sort of benchmark.
    Obviously take the projections with a grain of salt.

    The things it maybe illustrates for me;
    HTF is still undervalued, but possibly by only 5 points - his real value is that he's a decent floor average with a good ceiling available at CTR (pretty much what we knew).

    Walsh needs significant improvement in Fantasy stats to offer value. It's possible, but always an increased risk when you're aiming for that to be the reason for improved scoring (rather than a change of role or minutes).

    Millers sample is too small to take too much away, except his style of play (slapsies) suits fantasy points - if he can add a decent try rate... who knows...?

    Anyway, a somewhat interesting curiousity more than anything...

    Additional note: I removed any significantly injury affected outliers from the samples... (i.e. no 10 minute games that drop averages etc)

    Nice work ET
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    Post by Chewie Thu Mar 16, 2023 1:50 pm

    MF wrote:

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    that's a bold captaincy pick

    Just a gut feel?
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    Post by Camo123 Thu Mar 16, 2023 1:53 pm

    Chewie wrote:

    I like MS's fullback tier list:

    Tier 1
    Teddy, Turbo, Papy, Latrell, Ponga

    Tier 2
    Edwards, Brimson, Gutho, Walsh

    Tier 3
    Drinkwater, Kennedy

    Tier 4
    Laurie, CNK, Savage

    Tier 5
    Hammer, Miller, Ramsay, Sloan, Perham

    I think Walsh could be a good WFB3, other options outside the FBs are Kiraz and Garick
    If you don't have any other fires to tend to, I think Walsh is a good shout

    Wasn’t that FB tier list for IRL ranking not fantasy
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    Post by mattnz Thu Mar 16, 2023 1:54 pm

    my tv broke wrote:

    Probably same as last week tho, around 70 mins with a break during second half


    I am expecting similar, happy to take an 85 in 70 minutes again.

    It was interesting to note that when questioned about not playing a bench MID, Arthur's response was that we need RCG and Paulo out there, no mention of taking minutes from Hopgood, just the props.
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    Post by StormTrooper96 Thu Mar 16, 2023 2:01 pm

    I have this inkling that Cheese goes over this weekend, so going to trade Boyd instead. My cheapies all seem to be making money so will keep them also and I agree E.Butcher looks a bit out of place and my other second rowers seem to be pulling their weight!

    Trades looking like:

    Boyd + Butcher OUT
    Preston + Walsh IN +234K ITB

    Preston looks like a real goer! Anything stopping him lock down a spot?
    Walsh just wanted to be in everything, he looks like a real spark from Broncos. 54 with a fair chunk of attacking stats, but I think he finds a lot of those this year. 45+ seems to be a decent expectation.

    234K will get me a good upgrade from Trindall, Carty, etc.
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    Post by BCT05 Thu Mar 16, 2023 2:01 pm

    Very close between Hopgood and Haas for me, bit of a coin flip. Leaning Hopgood
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    Post by Guest Thu Mar 16, 2023 2:02 pm

    Chewie wrote:

    that's a bold captaincy pick

    Just a gut feel?

    Nah I’ll pick him up after his banner. That’s how you get the good players
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    Post by my tv broke Thu Mar 16, 2023 2:03 pm

    StormTrooper96 wrote:Preston looks like a real goer! Anything stopping him lock down a spot?

    Not really, not if his form from last week keeps up. Had a good game. Looks playable, high energy/involvement type player, solid base around 40 to 45 probably with attacking upside.

    As with any young forward he might struggle to maintain it with week to week grind of NRL, but not worth worrying about early season at his price.


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    Post by StormTrooper96 Thu Mar 16, 2023 2:04 pm

    my tv broke wrote:

    Not really, not if his form from last week keeps up. Had a good game. Looks playable, high energy/involvement type player, solid base around 40 to 45 probably.

    As with any young forward they might struggle to maintain it week to week and get a rest mid season, but not worth worrying about at the moment.

    From memory, the last back rower to burst onto the scene at the dogs turned into an instant gun... for 12 months and then disappeared into the stratosphere.
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    Post by Camo123 Thu Mar 16, 2023 2:05 pm

    BCT05 wrote:Very close between Hopgood and Haas for me, bit of a coin flip. Leaning Hopgood

    Captain percentages (off Talking League FB)

    Hopgood 19.76
    Cleary 11.22
    Grant 7.97
    Murray 4.84
    DCE 3.99
    Teddy 2.84
    Carrigan 2.67
    Haas 2.32
    Latrell 2.08
    Hynes 1.85
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    Post by BCT05 Thu Mar 16, 2023 2:05 pm

    StormTrooper96 wrote:I have this inkling that Cheese goes over this weekend, so going to trade Boyd instead. My cheapies all seem to be making money so will keep them also and I agree E.Butcher looks a bit out of place and my other second rowers seem to be pulling their weight!

    Trades looking like:

    Boyd + Butcher OUT
    Preston + Walsh IN +234K ITB

    Preston looks like a real goer! Anything stopping him lock down a spot?
    Walsh just wanted to be in everything, he looks like a real spark from Broncos. 54 with a fair chunk of attacking stats, but I think he finds a lot of those this year. 45+ seems to be a decent expectation.

    234K will get me a good upgrade from Trindall, Carty, etc.

    Cheese might not even play mate, team has said he hasn't had a full training session this week and is in doubt.

    Should find out from the 24hr cut tonight though but if he plays very likely he'll be limited. He's a sell


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    Post by Revraiser Thu Mar 16, 2023 2:08 pm

    Genderbender wrote:



    You’ve got a woman and she works? Stop gloating!

    I've always said work or don't work, I don't mind.

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    Post by Rabbits21 Thu Mar 16, 2023 2:09 pm

    Essentially for me it’s….

    Egan & Cheese
    For Preston & Tohu?
    Or
    Talau & Cheese
    For Preston & Bird?

    Such a hard decision.
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    Post by Revraiser Thu Mar 16, 2023 2:09 pm

    mattnz wrote:

    Buy her a car you cheap skate

    Lol, have attempted to get her an Aus license,.. way to dangerous, insanely unaware on the road.
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    Post by Chewie Thu Mar 16, 2023 2:11 pm

    Revraiser wrote:

    I've always said work or don't work, I don't mind.

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    Same here, she can do what she likes
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    Post by mintotheimmortal Thu Mar 16, 2023 2:13 pm

    This Carrigan doubt has really thrown a potential spanner in the works. If confirmed out will be left with 16 as my mid cover Ford is also out.

    Only move I see as not ridiculous is potentially Talau for BMM which loses ctr/Wing cover for this week.

    As a result would have to prioritise Bird in a week or two which would leave Thompson as that dual cover.

    This isn't the worst option but didn't want to have to rush into bird this early and prematurely milk one of my cows.

    Boyd stands out as the option to lose but again will lose HOK cover doing that.

    Lets just hope Carrigan plays

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    Haas, Carrigan, Hopgood
    Katoa Loiero
    Cleary, Doueihi
    Alamoti Thompson
    Miller Warbrick Perham

    Wilton Butcher Preston Doorey

    Ford Katoa Boyd Talau
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    Post by No Worries Thu Mar 16, 2023 2:14 pm

    Revraiser wrote:The Mrs has started a job recently where she regularly finishes at 8.30pm. Right in the middle of Nrl games. So of the two options should I

    A - Call her HR or...

    B - Continue discouraging her about the merits of the role  ?

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    C - Pick her up after the game

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