NRL Fantasy 2023 Part 31 - So many trade out options, but no trade in ones

Liverpool_Bulldog wrote:

Robson’s average is 60?

Robson is scoring either 70+ or 40s

Cheese will score either 60+ or 30s

Same concept, but lower scores at a cheaper price

Camo123 wrote:

There’s genuinely no MID between Smith and McInnes price that I would buy now

I’m buying Smith as the alternative was cash cow MID, none of which are super appealing and they would be in my 17

my tv broke wrote:

I am pretty tempted to get BS9 instead of Mcinnes tbh.

More for the fun factor.

I think Smith is the perfect 18th man, he's cheap enough.
I may need to squeeze him in next week to cover for Tapine (if Couchman isn't viable)

Howse wrote:Hey guys, long time lurker first time poster. Just wanted some advice on the old team here. I’ve played fantasy for a few seasons now definitively the best season to start I’m having. My team

J Brailey
Haas, Tapine, Hopgood
Katoa, Hosking
Cleary, Burton
Hammer, Alamotai
Walsh, Miller, Turbo

Boyd, Preston, Lerio, Warbrick
I Katoa, HSS, Hands

Looking this week to obviously trade Brailey, Hopgood and Burton for Mahoney, Couchman and Hynes. What does everyone reckon?

Firstly,

Not a bad looking team at all. It doesn’t look great from players 17-21, but most of us find ourselves in that position. Hynes kinda offsets that shittiness. Dare I mention Soni Luke? I believe he’s become part of the conversation of the week, somehow. Maybe he feels left out of all the Crossland/Couchman/McInnes chat. Mahoney is a bit iffy to me. You could play Boyd as your main hooker and then play silly buggers on your interchange. Next week bring in Api for Brailey? Personally, I’m off Tigers players, although IPap could be considered later on down the line.

Milchcow wrote:

Robson is scoring either 70+ or 40s

Cheese will score either 60+ or 30s

Same concept, but lower scores at a cheaper price

Ahhh got ya

Contrastinghobby wrote:

Fair enough, well what are your plans to try and generate cash?
I can understand your decisions compared to others may be more risky now for context given after 6 rounds there is almost 1mil difference.
You can't change what has happened but we are only 1/5th of the way in

Am I correct in your strategy is to trade sideways for a POD the week after a big score? (Fifita/Mahoney/Kiraz/Cobbo/Hynes/Katoa)
All those players after that score have settled back to their starting price so basically while being good you did technically spend top dollar
Would you do things differently in hindsight, genuinely curious?

I had a look at your team and tracker then had a quick look at another team for comparison
The main difference I see is who and when you traded them in

I spent a few minutes looking over this while enjoying a coffee to perhaps understand why you are 'all in' on some players
I think it's because you can't afford them not to be, but perhaps I am wrong
You will probably take all of this the wrong way but I hope you find it helpful at least as it's early days and plenty of time to catch up
All the best

Your team and trades:

Example:

Typically I have gone for players that have significant base and the potential to go huge on their day - Fifita, Kiraz, Cobbo, Miller, Tapine, Katoa, NAS, Sami.

Fifita is getting his 58 average without a single try this season! Have bought him before he goes huge with multiple 80-100 point games this season, on top of that average as his base scoring.

Katoa is getting 80 minutes every week, averaging 51 without a try. Is going to get a try or 2 eventually, as he has threatened to on many occasions, getting there on base scoring at the moment, with a high work rate. Don't want to miss him when he is getting 80+, looking like he can average high 50s, when he starts scoring tries, a cheap keeper with job security.

Kiraz stacks up run meters, TBs, OFs as base, and as a winger will also score tries on top of that. Can score another 90 with a couple of tries and has a great floor.

Cobbo and Sami both dropped in value playing in unfamiliar positions to start the season, are getting run meters, TBs for good base, both huge PODs for top 5,000 teams, available as an alternative at CTR, both capable of going on a try scoring run for a few weeks. Will both get 80+ scores at some stage this season that will help catch me up significantly.

NAS was on target for a 70+ the game he got injured after terrorizing the Bulldogs defence. Another high base, huge ceiling guy. Will look to get him back after Storm bye.

Tapine's base has been fantastic this season, just need to see him get some attacking stats on top of that. A real pity he was missing in the game at the weekend, could have easily been a 70+ point game for him.

Hynes is the top averaging player in the game and has looked fantastic, even coming back from injury and has a chance of not playing Origin. Solid POD captain.

Following bad luck to start the season, ranked at 20k, these are the kind of PODs you need in your team to catch up. If a few of them have an up week at the same time, you can leap frog thousands of teams easily. Going with the same players everyone else is bringing in, keeps you behind the pack.

I am also targeting bye round players, attempting to hold Hopgood, if he can get a decent bench role with high PPM. Only have 1 incumbent Origin player in Cobbo, so looking to make up a lot of ranks over the key bye rounds.

My team generally is undervalued and only have 1 spot that hasn't been generating value in Talau, who will return and start generating cash when back on the park.

Started with Carty, Trindall, Preston, Alamoti, Miller, Warbrick and trade ins have generally been good pick ups, SJ, Ford, Katoa, so generating cash hasn't really been an issue, except for all the undervalued guys that have been injured during games, or playing injured, which has been the reason I don't have as high a team value as it easily could have - Cheese, Ponga, Douehi, NAS, Harris (as captain, ouch!), Cotter, Talau (in my 17 when his nose was broken when about to score a try, getting a 2 instead).

Dealing with all the high value player injuries left me playing 16 one week, and meant I couldn't get a replacement CTR for HSS (would still have had to play him, just to get 16/17 on the park).

Now have a decent POD team, with reasonable cover in each position, generating lots of cash, and a very playable top 18 players - 17 and 18 are Boyd and Crossland, iKatoa at 19. Should make up ground now and have a nice run over the Origin Byes.

My team after trades this week is:
Mahoney
Tapine McInnes Hopgood
Fifita Katoa
Hynes (C) SJ
Cobbo Talau
Miller Kiraz Sami

Preston Ford Carty Boyd
Crossland Katoa Alamoti Weekes

$105k left

Might actually jump on Sele for my cheapie this week. Hopefully has 40 minutes a week in him and locks out early so I don’t have to worry about cheapies all weekend

Wow lot`s of members doing really well on here.

Finally have had the chance to look at the Fantasy Team this week.

Just curious if you guys would play Alamoti or Warbrick?

Have the Hammer to cover the spot that I choose not to play.

Cheers guys.

hey guys,

first time poster and was hoping for some advice on my team?

Grant
Haas, Gilbert, Tohu
Preston, Hopgood
Cleary, DCE
Thompson, HTF
Tedesco, Warbrick, tommy
couchman
ford
hosking
katoa
blore
chee-kam
dunster
hss

i was thinking of
Hopgood-cheekamthompson to ale-s.luke-munster

i have 60k in bank

Back Nine Bandits wrote:Wow lot`s of members doing really well on here.

Finally have had the chance to look at the Fantasy Team this week.

Just curious if you guys would play Alamoti or Warbrick?

Have the Hammer to cover the spot that I choose not to play.

Cheers guys.

I’d do for Warbrick. Manly been fairly generous to WFBs this year apparently

mattnz wrote:

Crossland played well at HOK when filling in. Importantly he has made 92 tackles, missing just 2 in that time. I will be very surprised if Mann and Crossland share 80 minutes. Expecting that with one of them getting time at lock, they get something like a 60/50 split, with 30 minutes that they are both on the field together. That would give Croker 50 minutes at lock, in line with his 47 last week.

So the coach is just talking out his ass when he said they would be?

Howse wrote:Hey guys, long time lurker first time poster. Just wanted some advice on the old team here. I’ve played fantasy for a few seasons now definitively the best season to start I’m having. My team

J Brailey
Haas, Tapine, Hopgood
Katoa, Hosking
Cleary, Burton
Hammer, Alamotai
Walsh, Miller, Turbo

Boyd, Preston, Lerio, Warbrick
I Katoa, HSS, Hands

Looking this week to obviously trade Brailey, Hopgood and Burton for Mahoney, Couchman and Hynes. What does everyone reckon?

I have Mahoney, can be frustrating when he dives to tackle a player 3 meters away from him for an inevitable miss. Have you looked at JMK as an alternative who plays round 13? Looking good and involved at a similar price point.

Burton looking more like a buy than a sell. I realise it is for Hynes, tough to say if worth it.

wolfking wrote:

So the coach is just talking out his ass when he said they would be?

Read the next sentence

mattnz wrote:

Typically I have gone for players that have significant base and the potential to go huge on their day - Fifita, Kiraz, Cobbo, Miller, Tapine, Katoa, NAS, Sami.

Fair enough and good to see your thought process behind these decisions.
From the outside looking in we only see a player score a huge score then immediately get brought in and talked up for the week.
We see the historical/positional/current average but I guess the gamble is in if this is an outlier or closer to their new average/role.
I guess thats what makes everyone different with how they see things
Keeps life interesting I guess

And then there are people like me who just like to choose players that are fun to watch

british88 wrote:hey guys,

first time poster and was hoping for some advice on my team?

Grant
Haas, Gilbert, Tohu
Preston, Hopgood
Cleary, DCE
Thompson, HTF
Tedesco, Warbrick, tommy
couchman
ford
hosking
katoa
blore
chee-kam
dunster
hss

i was thinking of
Hopgood-cheekamthompson to ale-s.luke-munster

i have 60k in bank

Hey buddy welcome, it looks like you’re going to be a centre short this week with Thompson and HSS both out.
I’d recommend focusing on getting a playing 17 above all else, best of luck!

british88 wrote:hey guys,

first time poster and was hoping for some advice on my team?

Grant
Haas, Gilbert, Tohu
Preston, Hopgood
Cleary, DCE
Thompson, HTF
Tedesco, Warbrick, tommy
couchman
ford
hosking
katoa
blore
chee-kam
dunster
hss

i was thinking of
Hopgood-cheekamthompson to ale-s.luke-munster

i have 60k in bank

You seem short of a centre this week.

Also, what’s the plan for your team around Origin time? Have you banked a few trades or planning to bank some in order to deal with that period?

ForanAgainst wrote:

You seem short of a centre this week.

I sure am lol, perhaps croker - also only playing h2h

Bringing in a WFB to replace Sloan in starting 13.

Tedesco $616k (priced at 47) Vs Walsh $628k (48) Vs CNK $464k (36)

Feels like a no brainer to me: Teddy. Right?

mattnz wrote:

Typically I have gone for players that have significant base and the potential to go huge on their day - Fifita, Kiraz, Cobbo, Miller, Tapine, Katoa, NAS, Sami.

Fifita is getting his 58 average without a single try this season! Have bought him before he goes huge with multiple 80-100 point games this season, on top of that average as his base scoring.

Katoa is getting 80 minutes every week, averaging 51 without a try. Is going to get a try or 2 eventually, as he has threatened to on many occasions, getting there on base scoring at the moment, with a high work rate. Don't want to miss him when he is getting 80+, looking like he can average high 50s, when he starts scoring tries, a cheap keeper with job security.

Kiraz stacks up run meters, TBs, OFs as base, and as a winger will also score tries on top of that. Can score another 90 with a couple of tries and has a great floor.

Cobbo and Sami both dropped in value playing in unfamiliar positions to start the season, are getting run meters, TBs for good base, both huge PODs for top 5,000 teams, available as an alternative at CTR, both capable of going on a try scoring run for a few weeks. Will both get 80+ scores at some stage this season that will help catch me up significantly.

NAS was on target for a 70+ the game he got injured after terrorizing the Bulldogs defence. Another high base, huge ceiling guy. Will look to get him back after Storm bye.

Tapine's base has been fantastic this season, just need to see him get some attacking stats on top of that. A real pity he was missing in the game at the weekend, could have easily been a 70+ point game for him.

Hynes is the top averaging player in the game and has looked fantastic, even coming back from injury and has a chance of not playing Origin. Solid POD captain.

Following bad luck to start the season, ranked at 20k, these are the kind of PODs you need in your team to catch up. If a few of them have an up week at the same time, you can leap frog thousands of teams easily. Going with the same players everyone else is bringing in, keeps you behind the pack.

I am also targeting bye round players, attempting to hold Hopgood, if he can get a decent bench role with high PPM. Only have 1 incumbent Origin player in Cobbo, so looking to make up a lot of ranks over the key bye rounds.

My team generally is undervalued and only have 1 spot that hasn't been generating value in Talau, who will return and start generating cash when back on the park.

Started with Carty, Trindall, Preston, Alamoti, Miller, Warbrick and trade ins have generally been good pick ups, SJ, Ford, Katoa, so generating cash hasn't really been an issue, except for all the undervalued guys that have been injured during games, or playing injured, which has been the reason I don't have as high a team value as it easily could have - Cheese, Ponga, Douehi, NAS, Harris (as captain, ouch!), Cotter, Talau (in my 17 when his nose was broken when about to score a try, getting a 2 instead).

Dealing with all the high value player injuries left me playing 16 one week, and meant I couldn't get a replacement CTR for HSS (would still have had to play him, just to get 16/17 on the park).

Now have a decent POD team, with reasonable cover in each position, generating lots of cash, and a very playable top 18 players - 17 and 18 are Boyd and Crossland, iKatoa at 19. Should make up ground now and have a nice run over the Origin Byes.

My team after trades this week is:
Mahoney
Tapine McInnes Hopgood
Fifita Katoa
Hynes (C) SJ
Cobbo Talau
Miller Kiraz Sami

Preston Ford Carty Boyd
Crossland Katoa Alamoti Weekes

$105k left

I like the theory but there's a lot of "wait and see". The waiting nullifies the big scores if you've got too many of those type of players.

I'd be pulling the trigger on Hopgood. You can spend that cash elsewhere and then pick him up again (if you wanted to) in a month when Paulo and potentially Matto get a call up during origin period.

Jumping Marlin wrote:Bringing in a WFB to replace Sloan in starting 13.  

Tedesco $616k (priced at 47)  Vs  Walsh $628k (48) Vs CNK $464k (36)

Feels like a no brainer to me: Teddy.  Right?  

Teddy for me easily, I’m trying to figure out whether Walsh is worth the extra over CNK or HTF is the better pick up for the 3rd WFB as I’m fixing WFB entirely

Jumping Marlin wrote:Bringing in a WFB to replace Sloan in starting 13.  

Tedesco $616k (priced at 47)  Vs  Walsh $628k (48) Vs CNK $464k (36)

Feels like a no brainer to me: Teddy.  Right?  

I think tedesco is the easy choice.

You could be swayed on form of both teams and what you think going forward

Roosters getting back to full strength over the next two weeks.. maybe they get their shit together.

Broncos flying through some easy games but reality check last week.

I already have teddy so grabbing walsh this week. I dont really care how he goes. I like him and wanted him since the start. But i do think he can maintain close to 50s on average