NRL Fantasy 2023 Part 62 - Pie round chaos (please don't banh mi for that pun)

mattnz wrote:

Targeting Cleary and Fifita. Have $992k cash to get them for very average cows with my remaining 2 trades.

Then when injuries come, I can pick up any other underpriced guns in straight swaps.

Holding 992k for a month will just disadvantage you. I don’t get it

You can use 2 of the 8 trades you get in r20 to get Cleary and Fifita

Use your money and remaining trades in the meantime?

You do you tho

rhinoceroo wrote:

So, you're not going to make another trade until Round 20, in four weeks' time?

Will see what happens with Fainu, if he holds a starting spot, I won't need to trade him until after Origin, if at all, if he keeps Tuilagi on the bench.

Weekes can be held to cover if Turbo is out.

Granville is the only other weak spot in my team currently, but is getting a decent role over the Origin period, so isn't an urgent trade out.

I only have:
- 2 Eels
- 3 Bulldogs / Sharks / Tigers
- 3 Raiders / Dragons / Souths
- and have 11 for round 19 already, just missing a CTR and a WFB.

If Bird returns getting 80 minutes, I would consider getting him for round 19 once dropped in price. If not, I will likely avoid him, at least until after the Origin period, then when getting consistent minutes / scoring, would bring him in when another player gets injured / suspended. I have Penis, Manu and Sami for CTR spot anyway.

If Fifita gets decent minutes and scores well in round 17, I would consider trading him in for round 18, instead of waiting until after Origin. He has a BE of 104 at the moment though, so not an urgent trade in.

Turpin likely becomes Cleary when he maxes out and Cleary (BE 105) has dropped cash. Could be an upgrade in the $300-350k range by then - Turpin averaging just 55 the next 3 games gets him to $610k with a low BE for when Brandon returns, to hit mid $600k range even if playing less minutes then. Cleary should drop below $950k, but may need to buy him early anyway.

easytiger wrote:

standard-issue wrote:

Don’t undersell yourself mate. I’ve counted AT LEAST 6 helpful and informative posts in that 20000...

(which is 4 more than me).

Sorry to be that guy, but I didn't find your facsimile operating instructions post that helpful (on account of not owning a fax machine,  although I guess it was informative in a historical sense?)

I am sure they will come in handy once you purchase one mate. I know technology can be scary, but soooo much easier than mailing shit/buying stamps etc. Phewww, I'm exhausted just thinking about how much more work I had to do when I was faxless.

standard-issue wrote:

Love your optimism Dolphin!  Personally think Round 27 will destroy quite a few team's ranks.

Got to be 95% or more of teams with no trades you would think.  2 players out already in Eels.  Many teams out of trades a month before potentially, so any other injuries already mean others out.  On top of that the potential for 1 or 2 guns to be rested.

Recipe for disaster but could be wrong.  I'll more than likely have Hopgood still hanging around though.

Last year I purposively made my last trade 3 weeks before the end of the season and had no issues. Actually, in the final round of the season, I had a full contingent to pick from.

Aside from the Panthers, I did not observe any mast resting of players - although I could be wrong. I have a suspicion that the comp will be much tighter this year and there will be not much motivation for resting players

Shady2K wrote:

Holding 992k for a month will just disadvantage you. I don’t get it

You can use 2 of the 8 trades you get in r20 to get Cleary and Fifita

Use your money and remaining trades in the meantime?

You do you tho

At the risk of being a pot calling a kettle black this really sounds like poor team management to me - whimsical burning trades to catch up lost ground
I reckon a lot of people who still have 7 to 8 trades at present are going to storm home post origin

Shady2K wrote:

Holding 992k for a month will just disadvantage you. I don’t get it

You can use 2 of the 8 trades you get in r20 to get Cleary and Fifita

Use your money and remaining trades in the meantime?

You do you tho

Its more a matter of efficiency.

If Fainu is starting, my only weak spots in my team are Granville (can still score decent enough on his day), and Weekes.

If I can just spend 2 trades on:
Turpin > Cleary
Granville > Fifita

then that is a better outcome to get top tier guns that are undervalued, without wasting the spare cash and trades on less important players.

Without these guys I can still run:

Boyd
Horse JDB Mofo
Koala Bateman
Hynes SJ
Manu Penis
Turbo Drinkwater Bula

NAS Hopgood Ponga Turpin
Sami Fainu Granville Weekes

Its not bad with $1M on the sideline.

I have been gaining ground every week for several weeks with that team, going from 20k to 1,800 last week.

Add Cleary and Fifita for Turpin and Granville and I have plenty of depth to get me through.

I’ve got a higher than average number of trades left which I plan to use on questionable sideways moves in the hope of minimising my score. I hope injuries and ratings don’t foil my fiendish plan

Katoa to Sorenson sees me off to a good start this week

The Dolphin Conspiracies wrote:

At the risk of being a pot calling a kettle black    this really sounds like poor team management to me - whimsical burning trades to catch up lost ground
I reckon a lot of people who still have 7 to 8 trades at present are going to storm home post origin

How do you intend to use 15+ trades in that period?

The Dolphin Conspiracies wrote:

standard-issue wrote:

Love your optimism Dolphin!  Personally think Round 27 will destroy quite a few team's ranks.

Got to be 95% or more of teams with no trades you would think.  2 players out already in Eels.  Many teams out of trades a month before potentially, so any other injuries already mean others out.  On top of that the potential for 1 or 2 guns to be rested.

Recipe for disaster but could be wrong.  I'll more than likely have Hopgood still hanging around though.

Last year I purposively made my last trade 3 weeks before the end of the season and had no issues. Actually, in the final round of the season, I had a full contingent to pick from.

Aside from the Panthers, I did not observe any mast resting of players - although I could be wrong. I have a suspicion that the comp will be much tighter this year and there will be not much motivation for resting players

I had to Google purposively, I have learnt something today

Yep, Comp closer this year, less chance of players being rested.

Maybe I'm seeing things the way that suit me?  My rank is shit this year but have 10 trades after this Round, then add the extra 8, so my strategy/hope will be to make up mass rankings in the last few Rounds.  It's all new this year, who knows.  Will be VERY interesting to see how it plays out.

My gut feel is there will be a shit tonne of teams that fall off a cliff in the last few Rounds like nothing we have seen before.

standard-issue wrote:



I am sure they will come in handy once you purchase one mate.  I know technology can be scary, but soooo much easier than mailing shit/buying stamps etc.  Phewww, I'm exhausted just thinking about how much more work I had to do when I was faxless.

I dunno man, putting all your trust in computers, like how do we even know it's really been sent?
There's no way if I need to send out an order that it's going to fit through those wires.
Plus, if there's a power cut, my pen, paper and candles just keep on trucking.

Anyway, off to use my abacus to work out if I can afford to trade this week

mattnz wrote:

Its more a matter of efficiency.

If Fainu is starting, my only weak spots in my team are Granville (can still score decent enough on his day), and Weekes.

If I can just spend 2 trades on:
Turpin > Cleary
Granville > Fifita

then that is a better outcome to get top tier guns that are undervalued, without wasting the spare cash and trades on less important players.

Without these guys I can still run:

Boyd
Horse JDB Mofo
Koala Bateman
Hynes SJ
Manu Penis
Turbo Drinkwater Bula

NAS Hopgood Ponga Turpin
Sami Fainu Granville Weekes

Its not bad with $1M on the sideline.

I have been gaining ground every week for several weeks with that team, going from 20k to 1,800 last week.

Add Cleary and Fifita for Turpin and Granville and I have plenty of depth to get me through.

The gaining ground thing is interesting.
Out of curiosity, are you gaining ground on say the top 100? I.e. making inroads on comparative total points?
Or is a fair chunk of gaining ground on teams that focus on H2H.

It's still relevant in either circumstance, and 20k down to 1800 is great. Just curious as to what you are benchmarking against

Hey all,
New to the forum. Been lurking and reading for a few weeks. I only started playing NRL Fantasy this year but have gotten really into it. I've been living over in the States the past 10 years so can't really watch too many games live. Thought I'd ask you guys' opinions on my situation. I've currently got 3 trades left. I had to trade heavily at the beginning to fix my team up once I figured out what I was doing. Right now I'm wondering if I should trade Haze Dunster for either Fainu (to give me 12 this week and 16/17 next week) or Simpkin (potential to make 150-200k over the next 4-6 weeks). Fainu obviously gives me probably 60 pts the next two weeks and potentially more but Simpkin would allow me to upgrade a Hopgood or the likes to a Haas post origin. 3rd option is hold the trade and maybe get in a Klese Haas next week.

standard-issue wrote:

I had to Google purposively, I have learnt something today

Yep, Comp closer this year, less chance of players being rested.

Maybe I'm seeing things the way that suit me?  My rank is shit this year but have 10 trades after this Round, then add the extra 8, so my strategy/hope will be to make up mass rankings in the last few Rounds.  It's all new this year, who knows.  Will be VERY interesting to see how it plays out.

My gut feel is there will be a shit tonne of teams that fall off a cliff in the last few Rounds like nothing we have seen before.

I’m seeing it similarly….late byes, HIA stand downs and restings will play a part and the ability to make a sideways move to counter this will be valuable (opinion rather than stone cold fact of course ).
Could be wrong like I have been wrong about many things before and will be wrong about many things in the future….or I might be right.

The Dolphin Conspiracies wrote:

I reckon a lot of people who still have 7 to 8 trades at present are going to storm home post origin

Five trades for me, so it’s definitely going to be stumbling home for me.

3 games ahead today plonkers ! Everything's coming up chipper!

123456qwerty wrote:Hey all,
New to the forum. Been lurking and reading for a few weeks. I only started playing NRL Fantasy this year but have gotten really into it. I've been living over in the States the past 10 years so can't really watch too many games live. Thought I'd ask you guys' opinions on my situation. I've currently got 3 trades left. I had to trade heavily at the beginning to fix my team up once I figured out what I was doing. Right now I'm wondering if I should trade Haze Dunster for either Fainu (to give me 12 this week and 16/17 next week) or Simpkin (potential to make 150-200k over the next 4-6 weeks). Fainu obviously gives me probably 60 pts the next two weeks and potentially more but Simpkin would allow me to upgrade a Hopgood or the likes to a Haas post origin. 3rd option is hold the trade and maybe get in a Klese Haas next week.

Welcome

Currently you are playing 15 next week with the following on byes Hynes,Bateman,Ipap,Talau,Bula,Oloapu
With 3 trades left I would probably avoid making it 14 players next week so would rule Simpkin out for now (Maybe grab in rd 18)

Fainu may or may not be a good pick, assuming he plays this and next week for a red dot in dunster that is probably worth it if you think he will continue to start on the edge. Would you still be happy with him off the bench the next 2 weeks as well worst case?
Some might be worried about his job security so trust your judgement on that

I would prefer KHaas as a cashout next week (if he starts) but I don't need another scorer this week either so its your call

Full strength whatever you do they are probably depth anyways so dont stress over it

Good luck

123456qwerty wrote:Hey all,
New to the forum. Been lurking and reading for a few weeks. I only started playing NRL Fantasy this year but have gotten really into it. I've been living over in the States the past 10 years so can't really watch too many games live. Thought I'd ask you guys' opinions on my situation. I've currently got 3 trades left. I had to trade heavily at the beginning to fix my team up once I figured out what I was doing. Right now I'm wondering if I should trade Haze Dunster for either Fainu (to give me 12 this week and 16/17 next week) or Simpkin (potential to make 150-200k over the next 4-6 weeks). Fainu obviously gives me probably 60 pts the next two weeks and potentially more but Simpkin would allow me to upgrade a Hopgood or the likes to a Haas post origin. 3rd option is hold the trade and maybe get in a Klese Haas next week.

Hey mate, I would hold the trade with only 3 left and look to trade Talau to Klees next week. Although you would be short a WFB still unless Dunster plays. Next week's problem imo.

Hynes, IPap, Bateman and Bula on the bye next week and I'd hold all 4 unless there's an injury. Some origin players to back-up and would rather spend one of my last trades on an injured gun to fill whichever position (WFB, CTR, EDG depending..). Wouldn't add Simpkin into the mix too. Not sure if Fainu's worth it at this point, may not even start again.

I forgot about Oloapu there too, another on the bye next week and probably a trade. Would loop him with Ponga this week too as HIA insurance.

ie.

Hynes and Johnson at HLF and Ponga above Oloapu in the reserves. If Ponga's crap, move Oloapu above Ponga or into Johnson's starting spot.

mattnz wrote:

How do you intend to use 15+ trades in that period?

I do not know about everyone else - but when I make a nice trade I tend to improve my rank - when I do not, others that do make a nice trade catch up - it is pretty simple

I won't use that many trades - I am a filthy trade whore like you and maybe filth. As mentioned i am going to burn all my trades by R24 and hope for the best