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    Post by Alfie Mon Jan 08, 2024 11:50 am

    robelgordo wrote:

    Has he though?

    2023 we've been through. 70+ mins.

    Looking at the previous years:
    - 2022 he averaged 60 mins per game. But R1 was 29 mins, then R10 was 17 mins, both when he got injured. R16 first game back from injury was 41 mins. Exclude those, suddenly we're up to 65 mins per game plan.
    - 2021 there was a 9 minute game otherwise he's 66 mins per game
    - 2020 played only 6 games and averaged 58 mins
    - 2019 and earlier he played a lot of hooker (good for mins) and interchange (bad for minutes) but neither worth considering as not congruent to current position

    So on closer examination he's averaged 71, ~65, ~65, 58.

    Is it an outlier when a 25 year old coming into his peak football years plays more minutes and has a greater role? Should we expect that to continue into 2024 or a regression at this stage of his career back to 2020 numbers? I would personally put more weight on what has happened recently. Matt knows this - he's a big fan of recency bias Smile

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    Post by L-Jimmy Mon Jan 08, 2024 11:50 am

    Rule #4: No Bench Props at Start of Season



    Yeah, if they turn out Ming you'll have missed a price rise, but you'll also have missed the 97% who are bald shit trucks with a wig.
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    Post by my tv broke Mon Jan 08, 2024 11:55 am

    L-Jimmy wrote:Rule #4: No Bench Props at Start of Season



    Yeah, if they turn out Ming you'll have missed a price rise, but you'll also have missed the 97% who are bald shit trucks with a wig.

    I like May, but he looks as clear as a 35-40 pt guy as they come. Probably reliable enough to hang around for a while when you have a bunch of other problems to deal with.
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    Post by L-Jimmy Mon Jan 08, 2024 12:01 pm

    my tv broke wrote:

    I like May, but he looks as clear as a 35-40 pt guy as they come. Probably reliable enough to hang around for a while when you have a bunch of other problems to deal with.


    I'm sorry, did I stutter?



    Rule #4: No Bench Props at Start of Season


    Don't make me bold the text further.
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    Post by Alfie Mon Jan 08, 2024 12:02 pm

    I'm prophesying Ethan Strange will be the 5/8 rather than Weekes. Weekes is no doubt talented but more of a fullback; really got found out at 5/8 for us
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    Post by my tv broke Mon Jan 08, 2024 12:02 pm

    L-Jimmy wrote:


    I'm sorry, did I stutter?



    Rule #4: No Bench Props at Start of Season


    Don't make me bold the text further.

    I'm not arguing with the rule. I can't see a situation where I would start with May.
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    Post by Guest Mon Jan 08, 2024 12:09 pm

    Alfie wrote:I'm prophesying Ethan Strange will be the 5/8 rather than Weekes. Weekes is no doubt talented but more of a fullback; really got found out at 5/8 for us

    Weekes is very poor utterly useless he was touted as a super star coming through the manly lower grades & he gets his chance at 1st grade & he choked big time esp. in defense. Was poor in the halves & was poor at fb i think he even got dragged early in 1 of the games as he was so bad & i think in a couple of games he got shifted to the wing mid game because he was so bad so they tried to hide him so he wouldn't get exposed much.
    they should create a new rule: don't buy weekes or schuster cause he's just as bad.
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    Post by Fortitude Mon Jan 08, 2024 12:15 pm

    Alfie wrote:I'm prophesying Ethan Strange will be the 5/8 rather than Weekes. Weekes is no doubt talented but more of a fullback; really got found out at 5/8 for us

    Youre probably right. It'd be a very strange decision to move Savage straight to 1, given he cant even hold that spot in NSW cup. Rapana and Kris surely dont play there with Weekes available.

    My guess is that Strange is the only rookie contender for the backline to start the year. Think it will look something like.

    1.Weekes/Savage with Stewart to finish the year.
    2.Cotric
    3. Kris
    4. Timoko
    5. Rapana
    6. Weekes/Strange
    7. Fog.
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    Post by Fortitude Mon Jan 08, 2024 12:17 pm

    White Lightning wrote:

    Weekes is very poor utterly useless he was touted as a super star coming through the manly lower grades & he gets his chance at 1st grade & he choked big time esp. in defense. Was poor in the halves & was poor at fb i think he even got dragged early in 1 of the games as he was so bad & i think in a couple of games he got shifted to the wing mid game because he was so bad so they tried to hide him so he wouldn't get exposed much.
    they should create a new rule: don't buy weekes or schuster cause he's just as bad.

    The difference between Wighton and weekes defensively is comically large. Pray for the raiders for and against in 2024.
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    Post by easytiger Mon Jan 08, 2024 1:24 pm

    robelgordo wrote:

    Not confirmed but word on the streets is going to Storm, where it is assumed he will immediately play 80 mins on edge and also out fantasy score all other Storm edges in recent memory

    I'm definitely taking unders on the 50 point line for Blore.

    I'm not sure where the presumption that he plays edge comes from, even the thought that's what he's going to do in 2025 seems strange given the Storm don't even have a coach for 2025 (unless Bellamy suddenly decides to go round again?)

    Storm looked to have a bigger problem with poor bench middles last year (which Blore would greatly improve) than an issue with some blandness on one edge.
    But then I'm old enough to enjoy ready salted potato chips and vanilla ice cream (not together)
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    Post by robelgordo Mon Jan 08, 2024 2:47 pm

    L-Jimmy wrote:Rule #4: No Bench Props at Start of Season*




    *except for Spencer Leniu

    FTFY
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    Post by Aardvark Mon Jan 08, 2024 2:47 pm

    I reckon Loeiro plays edge for the Storm this season.

    I reckon some other stuff too, most of which is based on rumours and hearsay
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    Post by robelgordo Mon Jan 08, 2024 2:49 pm

    In all seriousness nobody really wants to start with bench props in their squad, but nearly every season it feels like it has to be done due to lack of other cheap options. It's either pick 3-4 shitto WFBs or pick 2-3 shitto WFBs and spread the risk a bit with a bench prop.
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    Post by Aardvark Mon Jan 08, 2024 3:06 pm

    robelgordo wrote:In all seriousness nobody really wants to start with bench props in their squad, but nearly every season it feels like it has to be done due to lack of other cheap options. It's either pick 3-4 shitto WFBs or pick 2-3 shitto WFBs and spread the risk a bit with a bench prop.


    Yeah, no one wants to start with a bench prop but traditionally you have one base price place to fill so you either punt on another shitty outside back or pick the base price bench prop in the hope he can give you 25 points in a shitstorm and eek his way up to $350k before Origin 1

    As MTB said if you pick one of those 35 point guys they are hanging around in your team for way too long doing exactly what they did last year while you put out other fires
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    Post by multiple.scoregasms Mon Jan 08, 2024 3:20 pm

    Fortitude wrote:On the raiders, i wouldn't say I'm optimistic about 2024, but I'm not sure why it's considered a given that they are going to perform worse in 2024 than 2023. I mean, dont get me wrong, this year is the definition of a rebuild year, but so was last year. Next year is going to be way worse.

    Our only loss worth worrying about is Wighton. The loss will be felt more defensively than in attack (based on 2023 performance only).

    We still have a really soft draw.

    Raiders are banking on development to improve performance, shown through the recruitment. Few young players may emerge, but unlikely any will get a full season, which make picking any cheap raider rookies problematic.

    From what ive heard, Savage is hugely on the outer - requires a couple of attitude adjustments before the senior player group allow him to play. Everyone expects Chevy Stewart to be FB by the end of the year but may not start there as Ricky is known to be hesitant to throw young players in the deep end.

    I wouldn't be surprised to see Mariota get much more game time this year as well.

    Id also be interested to see how Timoko and Kris goes playing Ctr this year. Timoko is a gun, Kris really stood up last year, and in the very few opportunities he had in Ctr he looked really strong.

    The spine is a huge unknown. If you had to guess, you'd say Levi, Weekes, Savage/Stewart are not currently first grade material, and it will be too much to expect that they all improve this year.

    Reminds me a lot of the Titans 2022 season. Let go (although not really by choice) an experienced half while already lacking in other key positions with only talented youngsters to fill the spot. Maybe it works out and Weekes/Stewart immediately perform which covers for having to start Levi/Starling. Maybe it goes terrible like the Titans and they run 13th. The pack is probably good enough to avoid a bottom 4 shootout
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    Post by The Dolphin Conspiracies Mon Jan 08, 2024 3:58 pm

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    I'm not arguing with the rule. I can't see a situation where I would start with May.

    Rule #4: No Bench Props at Start of Season*
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    Post by my tv broke Mon Jan 08, 2024 4:13 pm

    Aardvark wrote:


    Yeah, no one wants to start with a bench prop but traditionally you have one base price place to fill so you either punt on another shitty outside back or pick the base price bench prop in the hope he can give you 25 points in a shitstorm and eek his way up to $350k before Origin 1

    As MTB said if you pick one of those 35 point guys they are hanging around in your team for way too long doing exactly what they did last year while you put out other fires


    Thats about it right there. A safeish 35+ isnt so bad early in the season.

    Better than a bunch of 250k talaus scoring between 8 and 12 and dropped two weeks in. (Obvs may isnt 250k etc etc)
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    Post by Guest Mon Jan 08, 2024 4:32 pm

    gurgess when he debuted off the bench was awesome was scoring 35-45 range with the ocassional 50+ cause he scored a try with 4 tb's
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    Post by Camo123 Mon Jan 08, 2024 5:20 pm

    Speaking of bench props

    “Kevin Walters believed Willison was poised to become Haas’ latest wrecking ball partner”

    Daily Telegraph (article stating Cobbo will be left CTR)
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    Post by Shady2K Mon Jan 08, 2024 5:49 pm

    Camo123 wrote:Speaking of bench props

    “Kevin Walters believed Willison was poised to become Haas’ latest wrecking ball partner”

    Daily Telegraph (article stating Cobbo will be left CTR)

    Remove the stone of Baker… attach the stone of Willison!

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