NRL Fantasy 2024 Part 2 - We've all been waiting for Weekes

Mulvy wrote:

I didn't realise how cheap Knight was. He would definitely need to be starting though, see how trials go. RFM would be starting edge, no? He doesn't have a lot of competition there, and he has historically scored better there in fantasy. I think Cheese is about 5 points undervalued which puts him in the awkward area of not being a keeper but not making enough money to be a cash cow. There are worse picks and he can plod all the way up to the big byes without a bye. I still prefer Brailey despite talk of time share with Crossland. I think that is probably overstated, Brailey may be a slow burn at first, but has a much higher ceiling than Cheese. I mentioned before about Smithies missed tackles in super league, and I suspect it will primarily be a bench role for him anyway.

Milchcow wrote:

Speaking of Sam Walker and tries/goals, is he going to be first choice goalkicker again?

Suaalii kept kicking for a few weeks after Walker's return, but Walker got it back in finals - his for good?

Similar question with Papenhuyzen/Meaney at the Storm. Is Meaney keeping the job or will Papi get it back

Mulvy wrote:Walker is young and could improve his stats. Maybe. But in 2022 he averaged 42.2 whilst full time goal kicker. Last year he averaged 49.8 even with a decent try scoring rate. Seems to be priced where he will score? Adding GK for the last couple of games only improves his average a point or two. Fogarty is a goal kicking half back who is cheaper and has averaged higher in the past and will be alongside a much less dominant half.

Mulvy wrote:

I didn't realise how cheap Knight was. He would definitely need to be starting though, see how trials go. RFM would be starting edge, no? He doesn't have a lot of competition there, and he has historically scored better there in fantasy. I think Cheese is about 5 points undervalued which puts him in the awkward area of not being a keeper but not making enough money to be a cash cow. There are worse picks and he can plod all the way up to the big byes without a bye. I still prefer Brailey despite talk of time share with Crossland. I think that is probably overstated, Brailey may be a slow burn at first, but has a much higher ceiling than Cheese. I mentioned before about Smithies missed tackles in super league, and I suspect it will primarily be a bench role for him anyway.

mattnz wrote:

The key argument against Brailey is 1st year back from ACL, performance tends to be lower than pre-ACL.

mattnz wrote:

The key argument against Brailey is 1st year back from ACL, performance tends to be lower than pre-ACL.

Alfie wrote:

Hynes actually kicked further with Trindall next to him I was surprised to read (thanks MTB). Averaged 3 points less but that was largely thanks to the 34 he scored in the 28-0 shutout courtesy of the Panthers.

Mulvy wrote:I wonder if we should be concerned about the departure of Matt Moylan from the Sharks, affecting Hynes scoring. Is Trindall the likely replacement? Hynes and Trindall played the last six games together last year which gives a bit to go on. KMs would be the main concern.

Earlier in the year Hynes was kicking 440 KMs per game, compared with 295KMs in the last six games when he was along side Trindall (a decrease of 145kms). In those last six games, Trindall averaged 233KMs compared to Moylan who averaged 74KMs (an increase of 159kms).

If these numbers ring true, Trindall at five-eighth could be the direct cause of about a five point decrease in scoring for Hynes. I can't quite remember, but Hynes might have been carrying a strain of some sort, so this may all be over blown.

But, that's just KMs. Would he affect playmaking more or less than Moylan? It might not affect Hynes that much, but it's a risk, and when you pay for the most expensive player in fantasy, you expect top of the range scores. I also don't expect Trindall to take the goal kicking away from Hynes, but if I remember correctly, Hynes had a pretty unhappy stretch for a while there with the boot, so it's always a risk as well.

I was tempted to run with both Cleary and Hynes, but it's a lot of cap, and with the above possible risks, thinking I'll just run Cleary.

rhinoceroo wrote:Nobody mentioning Holmes as a gun centre? Probably priced realistically but goalkicking stud for a team with an easy schedule and no byes until Origin (when you'll have to sell him).

Stinks to shell out so much on a centre playing centre but best of the high end options imo.

Mulvy wrote:Yeah make a full team and change them as many times as you want to be safe.

Also, all you bastards are pushing me towards a gun centre. I don't want a gun centre. But if I do, I want Val Holmes. Gotta be a Cowboy for me to cheer for if I am to entertain this craziness.

Mulvy wrote:A lot of people have me on block. Understandable.

rhinoceroo wrote:

Milchcow wrote:

Speaking of Sam Walker and tries/goals, is he going to be first choice goalkicker again?

Suaalii kept kicking for a few weeks after Walker's return, but Walker got it back in finals - his for good?

Similar question with Papenhuyzen/Meaney at the Storm. Is Meaney keeping the job or will Papi get it back

One for trials...

Other GK questions include Flanagan or Lomax at Dragons and Crichton or Burton at Bulldogs.

On the second one, Crichton is imo a noticeably better goalkicker than Burton and kicked ahead of him for the Panthers in 21 when both were playing but Cleary was out. Does seem like Burton is pretty indulged at the Dogs though. But if Crichton actually is a goalkicking fullback, he comes into the gun centre conversation too.

White Lightning wrote:

i think a few have me on block too sometimes i go off track so also understandable

Mulvy wrote:

I agree, but that is more important for backs/edges who rely on speed/agility. Brailey makes tackles in the middle of field to make all of his points. When Andrew McCullough came back from ACL, they eased him back with 47 minutes for 39 points, which he then proceeded to follow with scores of 69, 65, 64, 62 in 80 minutes. McCullough also had surgery in July I think, Brailey did his in April, so a significantly longer recovery period.

Mulvy wrote:

Who said that?

Milchcow wrote:

It is one for trials. But if, hypothetically, you were setting the goalkicker status for nearlysport.com and had to make a decision before any trials had been played for the site to open - which way would you lean

Milchcow wrote:

It is one for trials. But if, hypothetically, you were setting the goalkicker status for nearlysport.com and had to make a decision before any trials had been played for the site to open - which way would you lean

Mulvy wrote:

Has my previous post been debunked??