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    2016 NRL.com Fantasy thread part 26

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    Post by Chewie Wed Apr 20, 2016 2:29 pm

    Lolohea looks very attractive this week mainly because...
    1. He had a big score on the weekend
    2. Cows have peaked and we need to cash them out somehow? limited options atm
    3. As a Fullback he looks like an attractive buy in the Centres (NOT in the halves)
    4. The Wariors finally start to get some traction

    =Disclaimer: Don't expect a big score from Tui this weekend against the Storm=
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    Post by Guest Wed Apr 20, 2016 2:31 pm

    pm888 wrote:With RTS out for the season the wfb position becomes really hard to pick and aim for who you want in your final 17. tedesco is the only certainty post origin. I actually had rts and mansour as the other two, but now I am not too sure. may have to seriously consider barba or mitchell as keepers

    My dream combination was Teddy, RTS and Munster. With RTS gone, I'd slot Dugan in there.

    Given that I have none of them, Barba will almost definitely stay with me til the end as not only a WFB keeper, but halves coverage via Feeney, since I plan on downgrading Taylor to a nobody and Hastings to BHunt/Johnson either next week or the week after. Munster is the other one I plan to get within 2 weeks. Would really like to be able to grab Teddy post-origin, but for that price, I may have to settle for Dugan if he makes it through unscathed.
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    Post by Finch Wed Apr 20, 2016 2:34 pm

    Bren wrote:Have currently gone Bunt but should I go Milf instead. Cant split the two... Thoughts?

    Milford bro.
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    Post by charliemurphy Wed Apr 20, 2016 2:42 pm

    Bren wrote:Have currently gone Bunt but should I go Milf instead. Cant split the two... Thoughts?

    Im in the same pickle at the moment. Partnering SJ it could be a worry having both Milford and Johnson but Ive gone Hunt on the following:

    1. Lower BE than Milford (nothing more than it makes my team look more expensive)
    2. Im not sweating on Milford scoring a try to get points
    3. I already have Johnson
    4. I had Hunt last year and we have a love/hate relationship now (I hate him as a player but love watching him score points)
    5. That extra 3k could come in handy

    to be honest, before I wrote that list I was sold on Milford. Thanks for helping me make my mind up!
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    Post by Krump Wed Apr 20, 2016 2:42 pm

    Bren wrote:Have currently gone Bunt but should I go Milf instead. Cant split the two... Thoughts?
    I vote Bunt. He's at/below his proven price while Milf is miles above his. That's not to say Milf won't keep it up but if I had to bet on one of them scoring more for the remainder of the year it'd be Bunt.
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    Post by Fortitude Wed Apr 20, 2016 2:46 pm

    Every time I read someone say Milf or Hunt it brings back memories of when Puberty and the internet collided.
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    Post by Johnny B Goode Wed Apr 20, 2016 2:47 pm

    Isaac Liu suspended for the week. Means Aubo is probably a hold for the week but it still leaves me with the one dilemma and that's what to do about Ash Taylor. I want to trade him out for a gun half but can only do that by downgrading Parcell or Aubusson and if they've still got cash to make and are scoring decently for their positions then really I'm weakening one position to strengthen another.
    I'm really inclined to sell Parcell just because I don't think he'll play 80 minutes even if he does take the field this week and he'll probably have to share the dummy half duties when DCE returns anyway. Problem with that though is there's nobody decent to downgrade him to. What to do, what to do? Could just not trade at all this week and see how things play out
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    Post by my tv broke Wed Apr 20, 2016 2:54 pm

    ash taylor isnt an urgent sell.
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    Post by Guest Wed Apr 20, 2016 3:01 pm

    Johnny B Goode wrote:Isaac Liu suspended for the week. Means Aubo is probably a hold for the week but it still leaves me with the one dilemma and that's what to do about Ash Taylor. I want to trade him out for a gun half but can only do that by downgrading Parcell or Aubusson and if they've still got cash to make and are scoring decently for their positions then really I'm weakening one position to strengthen another.  
    I'm really inclined to sell Parcell just because I don't think he'll play 80 minutes even if he does take the field this week and he'll probably have to share the dummy half duties when DCE returns anyway. Problem with that though is there's nobody decent to downgrade him to. What to do, what to do? Could just not trade at all this week and see how things play out

    Parcell's only worth a trade if you're upgrading to Cam or Friend imo. An injury to any one of Koro, Walker or DCE again basically guarantees Parcell will maintain his 80 mins. In the opening two games when Parcy only played the 2nd half, Manly looked a lot better with him on the field, if Koro affects his minutes going forward, I can't see them dropping Parcy to any less than 60.

    Downgrading a HK is a bad idea to me. As the only spot with one back-up and a great scoring position, it's madness to run with only 1 HK.
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    Post by Sik Wed Apr 20, 2016 3:02 pm

    my tv broke wrote:ash taylor isnt an urgent sell.

    Agree. Taylor isn't a must sell yet. He will lose less than the others will gain.
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    Post by Sik Wed Apr 20, 2016 3:04 pm

    Sir William T. Winfield wrote:

    Parcell's only worth a trade if you're upgrading to Cam or Friend imo. An injury to any one of Koro, Walker or DCE again basically guarantees Parcell will maintain his 80 mins. In the opening two games when Parcy only played the 2nd half, Manly looked a lot better with him on the field, if Koro affects his minutes going forward, I can't see them dropping Parcy to any less than 60.

    Downgrading a HK is a bad idea to me. As the only spot with one back-up and a great scoring position, it's madness to run with only 1 HK.

    30k people only had 1 hooker last week thanks to Parcels late withdrawal.
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    Post by Johnny B Goode Wed Apr 20, 2016 3:04 pm

    my tv broke wrote:ash taylor isnt an urgent sell.

    Yeah it's just I feel panicky that Ben Hunt is an urgent buy because his BE is only like 30 something and he'll probably shoot up to 500k plus. I mean if he goes out of price range that's fine I can just aim for Johnson instead for the 2nd bye round but Hunt just has that POD sort of appeal to him. Oh well I'll probably play it conservatively this week and not trade at all.
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    Post by Guest Wed Apr 20, 2016 3:09 pm

    Sik wrote:

    30k people only had 1 hooker last week thanks to Parcels late withdrawal.

    Not sure why that's relevant, it's exactly why you should have 2 HKs incase one is ruled out last minute due to injury. If it were later in the round and more HKs were locked out, you'd be copping the AE if Parcell was your only HK.
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    Post by my tv broke Wed Apr 20, 2016 3:25 pm

    i dont know if i should take a punt on corey norman (largely due to his byes). basically a straight swap from RTS to him
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    Post by Honeysett Wed Apr 20, 2016 3:27 pm

    Milf is in Dally M winning form. I'll be bringing him in shortly
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    Post by EvenSteeden Wed Apr 20, 2016 3:31 pm

    Not sold on Lolohea at this time - if RTS struggled to score points then Tui may find it equally as difficult.

    Myself I will give him a week or two. Love him as a player but not sure if he's a keeper
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    Post by my tv broke Wed Apr 20, 2016 3:36 pm

    EvenSteeden wrote:Not sold on Lolohea at this time - if RTS struggled to score points then Tui may find it equally as difficult.

    Myself I will give him a week or two. Love him as a player but not sure if he's a keeper

    yeah i think i've talked myself out of it. RTS was running for over 200m and still not scoring that well.

    i'll give it a week. see how lolo goes this week, and if hymel continues his poor scoring it may prove easy to go hunt->lolo

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    Post by Milchcow Wed Apr 20, 2016 3:58 pm

    I'd just like to say something based on a few comments here.

    You should use someone's BE to determine when to trade, not who to trade.

    Especially for season keeper choices like Hunt/Milford.

    Someone like that you'll be trading in with no plans to trade out again, so you shouldn't really care about if they make money or not, all you care about his scoring potential.

    BEs are very temporary, someone might have a BE of -5 this week, but put up 2 weeks of mediocre scores and suddenly there BE can look crap again, they'll stop making cash and you'll have to waste another trade to get your dud trade fixed up

    If you trade Milford in over Hunt, and Hunt averages 60 for the rest of the year, and Milford averages 55, the extra cash in round 8 will be ultimately pretty useless.
    Of course if Milford averages 60 and Hunt averages 55, then even though Milford is the better buy,  you still probably don't ultimately care about a few extra dollars this week.

    The better way to use BEs is to pick your trade targets and then use the BE to see when they have bottomed out in price (eg trying to bring in Fensom/Mannering) or topped out in price (eg trying to sell Taylor, Saifiti)

    Don't get suckered into trading someone in someone just because they have a low BE and might give you 2 weeks of potentially crappy price rises.


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    Post by Revraiser Wed Apr 20, 2016 4:08 pm

    Milchcow wrote:

    The better way to use BEs is to pick your trade targets and then use the BE to see when they have bottomed out in price (eg trying to bring in Fensom/Mannering) or topped out in price (eg trying to sell Taylor, Saifiti).


    That's a pretty 'descent' breakdown on BE approach wouldnt you say 'Filth'... ?
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    Post by Johnny B Goode Wed Apr 20, 2016 4:10 pm

    So @Milchcow are you saying I should ignore things like Aubusson having a low-ish 15 BE and sell him so I can upgrade Ash Taylor to Hunt? I'm not trading anyone in for a low BE but I am tossing up whether to toss someone out that still has money to make in order to get a gun or conserve 2 trades for the week

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