2016 NRL.com Fantasy thread part 30

I feel really sorry for the Eels, because its really difficult to get a decent signing if you are a dog shit team with no prospects. you have to offer stupid amounts to get semi decent players to even bother looking at you.

Look at Watmough, if his $750k Price tag is correct, in what universe is he worth that? It's easy to say that for this year, but even last year or the year before, he was never really a "great"player. Sure he was consistent and a decent player, but he is a 2rf, he is not and never will be a Paul Gallen, so why pay that much? Its just for the name

Then take the knights this year with Joseph Tapine, $500k? What in the hell for? Hes not even close to being worth that. It's got to be a cse of signing a semi decent player for a stupid price tag just to get some half decent names at the club.

So Gallen throws an intentional, blatant elbow on a man on the ground that connects with the head against the Broncos & he's free to play in the test. If he had of been a Kiwi no doubt he would of got charged with the incident & probably ruled out of the test.

Hey guys.

Current team is:
Hodgson, Parcell
JBrom, JTrbo, Graham, BLaw
Tapau, Surgess, Ma'u, Asiata, Benry, Saifiti
Norman, Hastings, Barba, Taylor
Holland, Croker, PatMat, Scott
Mitchell, Radradra, Wighton, Gutherson, Bowen

Thinking Benry to Fensom (with a view to the Byes, but also perhaps Surgess out next round) funded by Taylor to Lamb. Thoughts?

That team would leave me with 15 playing in round 12 IF they all get on the park which at this stage is looking possible I think, with a couple more tweaks left to come such as BLaw for Kafusi (or another  round 12 playing bottom $ FRF) and an upgrade to a keeper somewhere else. Probably Wighton or PatMat before round 15.

White Lightning wrote:So Gallen throws an intentional, blatant elbow on a man on the ground that connects with the head against the Broncos & he's free to play in the test. If he had of been a Kiwi no doubt he would of got charged with the incident & probably ruled out of the test.

If I recall correctly, that decision was made immediately after the game and they considered it "just below grade 1 striking".
Which means we should see a shitload more elbows being thrown around now for setting that precedent.

I don't care about it from the point of view of kiwi vs aus or qld vs nsw or even gallen hate/love.
I care about this ruling because of the inconsistencies and the precedent they have set.

Gallen looked at him, cocked his elbow, fired and got a direct hit.
I don't see how that is any different than throwing a punch, personally.

filthridden wrote:

If I recall correctly, that decision was made immediately after the game and they considered it "just below grade 1 striking".
Which means we should see a shitload more elbows being thrown around now for setting that precedent.

I don't care about it from the point of view of kiwi vs aus or qld vs nsw or even gallen hate/love.
I care about this ruling because of the inconsistencies and the precedent they have set.

Gallen looked at him, cocked his elbow, fired and got a direct hit.
I don't see how that is any different than throwing a punch, personally.

Whats worse is he was on the news last night laughing about it and saying its all part of the game or something to that effect.

The nrl judiciary are a joke but its not like we didnt know that already.

The reason they determined it to be just below grade 1 striking is so he'd play in the test. If it had of been J-Brom it would of been a different determination. This has been happening for years.

Do the Eels also get stripped of their two wooden spoons?
They received them whilst over the cap...
Surely they don't count now?

Pookus McFly wrote:Do the Eels also get stripped of their two wooden spoons?
They received them whilst over the cap...
Surely they don't count now?

Rippin and Tearin wrote:Hey guys.

Current team is:
Hodgson, Parcell
JBrom, JTrbo, Graham, BLaw
Tapau, Surgess, Ma'u, Asiata, Benry, Saifiti
Norman, Hastings, Barba, Taylor
Holland, Croker, PatMat, Scott
Mitchell, Radradra, Wighton, Gutherson, Bowen

Thinking Benry to Fensom (with a view to the Byes, but also perhaps Surgess out next round) funded by Taylor to Lamb. Thoughts?

That team would leave me with 15 playing in round 12 IF they all get on the park which at this stage is looking possible I think, with a couple more tweaks left to come such as BLaw for Kafusi (or another  round 12 playing bottom $ FRF) and an upgrade to a keeper somewhere else. Probably Wighton or PatMat before round 15.

I've been off Fensom for the whole year but may sneak him in before Round 12. I will be waiting till Round 12 though if I do. He is priced at his average. Not a lot out there bye friendly wise. If you do Taylor to Lamb it will be this round right?

White Lightning wrote:Breaking news - Newcastle Knights have rorted the salary cap but they only lose 3 points so they reckon it's worth it.

Must still be paying off Joey Johns drug dealer.

White Lightning wrote:This is how I'm shaping up for round 12 & will aim to have 17:
Tolman, Grant
JDB, Fensom, Whitehead, Bhana, Asiata
B. Hunt, Mbye, Lamb
Holland, Littlejohn
Hopoate, Gutherson, Feeney

Hopefully Bhana stays in the 17, Asiata gets more minutes & is in the 17 & Hopoate plays on a Sunday.
Littlejohn & Feeney are unlikely to play.

How's 15 looking?

So the Eels will keep their positive for and against?

Big Kev wrote:

How's 15 looking?

I have 9 atm.

DarkKnight wrote:So the Eels will keep their positive for and against?

That's what I heard on Triple M last night.

DarkKnight wrote:So the Eels will keep their positive for and against?

Yeah, I figured they would go to zero originally but apparently the Dogs and Storm kept theirs'.

SI wrote:

I've been off Fensom for the whole year but may sneak him in before Round 12.  I will be waiting till Round 12 though if I do.  He is priced at his average.  Not a lot out there bye friendly wise.  If you do Taylor to Lamb it will be this round right?

I don't know the math behind player averages vs price but assuming you are correct could one argue he is actually undervalued based on that -1 he scored? Or are you taking that into account. My hope is that in addition to taking that negative score into account he ups his average over the rest of the season. I did read in the early days a pretty simple rule of thumb for the price average connection, do you know the one?

Yup the Taylor Lamb trade would be this week although admittedly I know little about Lamb, just going on what others say. If he isn't a genuine prospect to play the bye rounds I think I would reconsider this trade. I'm more interested in him as a cash out option with short term points output as opposed to trying to jump on another cow, although I guess the three are pretty well connected.

SI wrote:

That Instagram post was just weird, like disturbingly weird, like he is a paranoid narcissist.

And the problem with that is?

SI wrote:

Yeah, I figured they would go to zero originally but apparently the Dogs and Storm kept theirs'.

I would have thought they would have gone back to zero as well since they are still playing for points.

So they could sneak into the top 8 on for and against with a large chunck of that achieved with an illegal team.

I'm a big Manu Vatuvai fan but I'd rather see developed into a centre or a bench forward & eventually a starting forward after he's built up his stamina. People criticize him for mis reading in defense & coming in too much but it's not his fault that the players inside him don't spread leaving 3 on 1. Give him the ball 10 metres from the opposing line & no one will stop him. Plus he probably makes more yardage than the forwards coming out of our own half. However he's lost a bit of pace & he is too slow turning around & chasing & it's this reason I would like a positional switch.

Rippin and Tearin wrote:

SI wrote:

I've been off Fensom for the whole year but may sneak him in before Round 12.  I will be waiting till Round 12 though if I do.  He is priced at his average.  Not a lot out there bye friendly wise.  If you do Taylor to Lamb it will be this round right?

I don't know the math behind player averages vs price but assuming you are correct could one argue he is actually undervalued based on that -1 he scored? Or are you taking that into account. My hope is that in addition to taking that negative score into account he ups his average over the rest of the season. I did read in the early days a pretty simple rule of thumb for the price average connection, do you know the one?

Yup the Taylor Lamb trade would be this week although admittedly I know little about Lamb, just going on what others say. If he isn't a genuine prospect to play the bye rounds I think I would reconsider this trade. I'm more interested in him as a cash out option with short term points output as opposed to trying to jump on another cow, although I guess the three are pretty well connected.

Looking at it simplistically, his average without that minus one is 52.4 and his BE this week is 52. His last 5 round average is 48. So from what I take from that is he is actually slightly over valued still.

Howver, his bye schedule and potential to go large mean without looking at the maths, I would say yes, he is under valued in practice, but not in theory.