2016 NRL.com Fantasy thread part 30

Johnny B Goode wrote:

Keep Mansour for the week, you never know what he can come up with. Everybody dumping Gordon means he's just going to go huge in the first bye round but it's a long time to carry him regardless. Tolman averages like what 43 and Gordon averages 30 and Tolman plays 2 bye rounds. Going purely by averages he will score almost as much as him in 2 rounds than Gordon will in 3. Tolman's also bottomed out he ain't going to get any cheaper.

I've been saying that about Mansour for the last couple of weeks. I keep telling myself just give him one more than and he produces crap yet again. Plus he's losing the cash too. I want to see how he goes this weekend first.

Yeah, Gordon is a tough one, he has the potential, and looking at Tolman's scores, geez he's had a slow start to the year indeed. Tough decisions. I think I'll just think about it next week lol.

Johnny B Goode wrote: So when's everyone planning on selling Barba? Is he doing anything to convince anyone he's bordering on keeper territory?  
He relies heavily on tries to inflate his scores but the way he's going it's not like that's something we won't be seeing a lot of the rest of the year. He can get a decent score without a try as he got like a 40+ score a few weeks ago without a try but he's not like Dugan or Munster who can go 60+ without a try.  
I want to sell him soon for Munster but I don't want to cash out too early because being the most owned player in Fantasy you'd hate to trade him out the week he has a big game and you're the only one not benefiting.  

Barba's byes tip him away from being a full keeper, as far as I'm concerned. Waiting on the NSW team and trading Barba out after Round 11, possibly to Coote. Then Coote to Tedesco for the run in to go with Munster and Mitchell who I already have. Mitchell could become Dugan/Inglis/Barba I suppose depending on form/trades, but at the moment see him as a keeper.

rhinoceroo wrote:
Barba's byes tip him away from being a full keeper, as far as I'm concerned. Waiting on the NSW team and trading Barba out after Round 11, possibly to Coote. Then Coote to Tedesco for the run in to go with Munster and Mitchell who I already have. Mitchell could become Dugan/Inglis/Barba I suppose depending on form/trades, but at the moment see him as a keeper.

We seem to have the exact same backline and the exact same plan. Wouldn't it be nice if Teddy came back for round 12 and we could trade Barba straight to Tedesco for the bye. I would be such a happy man.

rhinoceroo wrote:
Barba's byes tip him away from being a full keeper, as far as I'm concerned. Waiting on the NSW team and trading Barba out after Round 11, possibly to Coote. Then Coote to Tedesco for the run in to go with Munster and Mitchell who I already have. Mitchell could become Dugan/Inglis/Barba I suppose depending on form/trades, but at the moment see him as a keeper.

Agree. But I'm thinking Aitken instead. Just wondering this week or next. Can anyone tell me if he's lining up against bj or croker next week?

mulvy wrote:

Agree. But I'm thinking Aitken instead. Just wondering this week or next. Can anyone tell me if he's lining up against bj or croker next week?

BJ Plays right side Croker left, not sure where Aitken plays... hope that helps?

Edit: Though I'm not sure knowing which one he lines up against helps really. Its very easy to notice BJ's tackle breaks but Croker can come up with quite a few when he's on (last week he got 7). Really both players have a history of having up's and downs, so for mine it's a lucky dip.

Archer wrote:
BJ Plays right side Croker left, not sure where Aitken plays... hope that helps?

Edit: Though I'm not sure knowing which one he lines up against helps really. Its very easy to notice BJ's tackle breaks but Croker can come up with quite a few when he's on (last week he got 7). Really both players have a history of having up's and downs, so for mine   it's a lucky dip.

Yeah I was pretty sure bj was right and I think Aitken is opposite on dragons left. I think both Barba and Aitken will stay about the same price. Just trying to work out who scores more points.

Am I crazy for thinking of hanging on to Gordon and Aubbs? Gordon's about 270k and will lose money in the short term (due to being off for half the game), but if he keeps his FB spot he would come back up to about the same price wouldn't he? Not in my 17 but keep him for the byes and save a trade? And Aubbs has peaked and will probs fall in price somewhat but then in rounds 15 and 18 probs play backrow again and get the points?

Bound to lose some cash but save at least two trades and get the bye points??? Thoughts?

Archer wrote:.... it's a lucky dip.

Just joined up here and this is some of the wonderful advise I'll be after. Thanks Archer.

mulvy wrote:

Bound to lose some cash but save at least two trades and get the bye points??? Thoughts?

Need two wait to see what the team lists are. What if Guth is named at the back and Gorden is off to another club?

code delta wrote:
Need two wait to see what the team lists are. What if Guth is named at the back and Gorden is off to another club?

Welcome. I am new as well. But to be sure my proposal obviously is dependant on team lists.

Also I just realized the bye planner I've been using is from renegades like someone said earlier. I'm only on here so I just figured it was one of Milchy's or something. Anyway it's useful.

code delta wrote:
Just joined up here and this is some of the wonderful advise I'll be after. Thanks Archer.

Welcome mate

code delta wrote:
Just joined up here and this is some of the wonderful advise I'll be after. Thanks Archer.

I aim to please
But seriously, I gave a quick flippant comment because I tend to go too in depth for my own good. However to give a bit more detail for anyone interested, the point I was trying to make was thus:

Trying to figure out how Aitken will score against the Raiders based on who he lines up against is a bit of an impossible task really.

BJ has been in fine form recently, at least attacking wise. However his defence has been up and down. He and Austin got absolutely carved up a couple of weeks ago and whoever was opposite them probably got their highest score of the year (I don't recall who it was now). Other weeks have seen him shut down top class centres in defence whilst continuing to make tackle breaks look easy in attack.

Croker isn't all that different, history has seen him give an inform centre like Roberts an absolute lesson, both in attack and defence, and then the very next week look like half the player.

FWIW I think both are a lot more consistent lately and when our edges struggle its usually got more to do with our shitty defensive structure (how does Pay still have a job... fmd) or lazy inside defenders not pushing across, rather than them as individuals.

Aitken is a solid defender, at least in terms of the stats he normally gets through, I can't say I've seen many of his games since moving over to the UK. But whether that translates to shutting down BJ/Croker or picking up a heap of missed tackles is anyone's guess. Same goes for whether he gets good attacking stats really.

The final mystery in it all though is where Raiders direct their attack. You would assume the smart move is to throw the ball to our right edge as often as we can, since Rapa and BJ are lethal atm. That would mean Aitken could potentially rack up the tackles. However last week we rarely gave them the ball, even though the week before they scored 6 or 7 tries on that edge, so it's no sure thing. We may send it to the left edge more, or continue with the bizarre plan to try and score with forward barge overs.

Oh yeah,
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How are you travelling this year and are you new or an old head if you don't mind me prying?

mulvy wrote:Am I crazy for thinking of hanging on to Gordon and Aubbs? Gordon's about 270k and will lose money in the short term (due to being off for half the game), but if he keeps his FB spot he would come back up to about the same price wouldn't he? Not in my 17 but keep him for the byes and save a trade? And Aubbs has peaked and will probs fall in price somewhat but then in rounds 15 and 18 probs play backrow again and get the points?

Bound to lose some cash but save at least two trades and get the bye points??? Thoughts?

tricky question, Gordon I don't see the appeal of keeping, in fact I've just dumped him myself, the Eels have been on fire so far this year and he's the goalkicker, but he's only scored over 40 twice & has scored under 30 5 times, If this salary cap business starts to wear down the players, I don't see him scoring very well at all & his price will tank.

Aubbs is a different kettle of fish, he's still making money so he's a hold for now, but keep in mind you'll be waiting till round 15 for him to contribute during bye rounds, he might start stinking up the joint at centre like he has previous years & and then you're racing the clock to the bye rounds.

It all comes down to how much you think trades are worth, the trades saved could come in handy down the track, but then you also might find money you didn't take when it was on offer was the reason you couldn't afford that last gun to fill out your team for the run home.

What was the team value of a top 17 last year roughly?? Seems this year the sheer amount of cash cows early on has sorta made the price drops by some people easer to bear. I can't remember my team value last year being anywhere near 8.8mil

mulvy wrote:

Welcome. I am new as well. But to be sure my proposal obviously is dependant on team lists.

Hey mate, and code delta. I was wondering if you guys and any other players new to Fantasy this year want to have a little comp amongst ourselves? (EDIT: Just noticed you may just be new to the forum as opposed to new to Fantasy, if so disregard )

I've had a bit of a shocker in my first year with heaps of mistakes, I'm more a rugby guy, living in NZ so to be honest I don't know a whole heap of the players beyond a few stats and whatever else is on paper, I enjoy league though and have been a sad little Warriors supporter from day one. Funny story on that (while things are a little quiet on the forum), I was living in Sydney back in 2002 when Watson and Vodafone gave away 20,000 tickets to Kiwi passport holders. I lined up at K-Mart or wherever it was with my mate to get our tickets. Ended up lining up behind a huge family of Samoan Kiwis, chatted with them for the long wait and once they got their tickets they turned around to us and gave us all their passports, told us to get ourselves some extra tickets. We ended up with more than 30 tickets from memory (I think the allocation was 4 per passport). We were poor travellers at the time, so after giving as many away as we had mates in OZ we went to our local pub and flogged off a bunch to some of the OZ lads (They were probably a bit gutted when they found themselves sitting amongst 20,000 Kiwis lol). Made enough money to have a massive day out, one of the best live sporting memories I have had that game!

Anyway, back to the point, whilst I'm doing pretty average I'm still giving it my best to see where I can finish overall and hopefully learn a few things for a much improved next season. You guys keen to have a little comp amongst ourselves? If so I might set up a thread for us newbies to post our updated score, squads etc, and perhaps learn a thing or two from each others experiences. That being said you guys may well be killing it, in which case you may not benefit much from it....

I'm currently sitting on 7003 points 13677th, but hoping to make a bit of headway over the bye rounds. How are you fullahs tracking?

Liverpool_Bulldog wrote:What was the team value of a top 17 last year roughly?? Seems this year the sheer amount of cash cows early on has sorta made the price drops by some people easer to bear. I can't remember my team value last year being anywhere near 8.8mil

I don't know the values, but it's clear with the extra cap this year and lack of corresponding rise in player starting prices chasing the cows has been less crucial.

I think a lot of people could well end up with an excess of cash in their banks without being able to make much improvement to their final playing 17.

To make the game more appealing strategically I'd like to see them go the other way. Doubt it will happen though.

Go Kiwis

Re: the Barba discussion. After the first few rounds I couldn't wait for him to peak so I could sell, he was so frustrating to watch, only scoring in 1 or 2 big plays per game. After about 6 or 7 games he had roughly the 5th/6th best average for a WFB, so I was thinking he may be a keeper. A couple of rounds later I'm wanting to trade him again. He has so much potential being a ball runner but so many times he gets the ball and passes it off to someone else. He won't run enough so for me he is on the chopping block, just have to wait for the right moment


@ code delta,welcome

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