2016 NRL.com Fantasy thread part 40

Someone want to do a run down of the best Panthers and Sharks players to look at?
Top 5 averages from each team?
Top in each position from each team?
Potential keepers + potential cash-outs?

SI wrote:
Certainly up there; looking at the match up tonight I see no reason for that to change unfortunately either.  I must say I have enjoyed watching te Titans this year though, they have been diabolical the last few seasons and were not expected to do anything this year either.

Yeah I've really enjoyed watching the Titans play surprisingly

filthridden wrote:Someone want to do a run down of the best Panthers and Sharks players to look at?
Top 5 averages from each team?
Top in each position from each team?
Potential keepers + potential cash-outs?

I don't think anyone from the Sharks is worth buying to help with round 18.
The only keepers are Fifita and Gallen who will be out for origin, and Barba who everyone already has.

Top 5 averages are Fifita, Gallen, Ennis, Graham and Barba. The top 2 will be in origin and the next 2 are next in line.

As for cashouts, I would guess that Nu Brown, Sene-Lefao and maybe Kurt Capewell will get a run with the origin guys out. The first 2 have played in previous years so aren't cashouts, and Capewell isn't in the system yet. Capewell's a 2RF/CTR but they'd probably only add him in as 2RF.
Maybe Jordan Drew as well?

In conclusion, I wouldn't buy any Sharks for the remaining bye rounds.

zorasdomain wrote:

I don't think anyone from the Sharks is worth buying to help with round 18.
The only keepers are Fifita and Gallen who will be out for origin, and Barba who everyone already has.

Top 5 averages are Fifita, Gallen, Ennis, Graham and Barba. The top 2 will be in origin and the next 2 are next in line.

As for cashouts, I would guess that Nu Brown, Sene-Lefao and maybe Kurt Capewell will get a run with the origin guys out. The first 2 have played in previous years so aren't cashouts, and Capewell isn't in the system yet. Capewell's a 2RF/CTR but they'd probably only add him in as 2RF.
Maybe Jordan Drew as well?

In conclusion, I wouldn't buy any Sharks for the remaining bye rounds.

Is he related to Luke Capewell? The Broncos saviour of 2012?

filthridden wrote:

Is he related to Luke Capewell? The Broncos saviour of 2012?

I think I heard him mention in an interview once that they are cousins? Though don't quote me on that.

zorasdomain wrote:

I think I heard him mention in an interview once that they are cousins? Though don't quote me on that.

Every time I look at your avatar, it makes me smile.

Capewell was a "capable first grader", in other words people wondered how he kept getting a first grade gig.
Others here may disagree, most likely Rabbitohs fans.

its that time of year to bring some facts to the table.

Here are the players that Prozone outscore compared to NRLStats. AKA the Fanhub favourites
(Minimum 5 games played. A few notable players not checked because Prozome and NRLStats spell their names differently and I couldn't be stuffed trying to correct it, eg Elliot Whitehead, BJ Leilua, Matt Moylan, Sio Suia Taukeiaho)
I have subtracted kicks defused and try saves from the Prozone score because I don't have that data for NRLStats

Name                              GP, Prozone , NRLSTats ratio
 

Brett Stewart	9	92	73	1.260273973
Peter Mata'utia	6	84	67	1.253731343
Matthew Wright	5	46	37	1.243243243
Manu Vatuvei	7	190	155	1.225806452
Charlie Gubb	10	216	177	1.220338983
Cory Denniss	6	111	93	1.193548387
Will Hopoate	11	387	325	1.190769231
Jayden Nikorima	7	144	121	1.190082645
Josh Hoffman	13	362	309	1.171521036
Ricky Leutele	12	337	288	1.170138889
Benji Marshall	7	218	188	1.159574468
Daniel Saifiti	11	360	311	1.15755627
Jonathan Wright	7	145	127	1.141732283
Luke Brooks	13	427	374	1.14171123
Kerrod Holland	10	430	379	1.134564644
Jared Waerea-Hargreaves	5	182	161	1.130434783
Chris Grevsmuhl	9	328	291	1.127147766
Manu Ma'u	12	570	507	1.124260355
Kenny Edwards	13	479	428	1.119158879
Raymond Faitala-Mariner	7	202	181	1.116022099

You'll notice that the traduitonal "Fanhub Favourites" aren't on the list. ie whenever someone whinges about player A being a "stats guys favourite" they are probably talking out of their bottom.

Andrew Fifita ranks 74th on the list. Shaun Johnson ranks 107th.

At the bottom of the list. These are the guys obviously owned by NRLSTats in whatever comp they are scoring for.
The ones outscored by NRLStats compared to prozone

(as before, min 5 games, some players not checked due to spelling differences, kicks defused and try saves removed from prozone scores)

Also for both tables, does not include current round scores

Joel Thompson	10	372	396	0.939393939
Nathan Friend	12	362	386	0.937823834
David Bhana	6	163	174	0.936781609
Nathaniel Roache	5	42	45	0.933333333
Sam Perrett	13	375	402	0.932835821
Shaun Kenny-Dowall	9	342	367	0.931880109
Ava Seumanufagai	14	465	501	0.928143713
Josh King	5	129	139	0.928057554
Will Chambers	6	227	245	0.926530612
Michael Lichaa	11	511	555	0.920720721
Cameron Munster	13	606	659	0.919575114
Tyrone Roberts	11	388	433	0.896073903
Leivaha Pulu	13	282	315	0.895238095
Roger Tuivasa-Sheck	7	217	244	0.889344262
Jarrod Mullen	8	272	322	0.844720497

Nice work Milchcow, interesting

filthridden wrote:
Every time I look at your avatar, it makes me smile.

Capewell was a "capable first grader", in other words people wondered how he kept getting a first grade gig.
Others here may disagree, most likely Rabbitohs fans.

This, I've wanted to say it, but I am way too much of a soft cock as it is.

Hurrell out till rd 19 if not mentioned already

http://www.foxsports.com.au/nrl/nrl-premiership/nrl-2016-full-teams-late-mail-and-stats-for-every-game-in-round-15--the-big-picture/news-story/182a5fec2a4dda51066ef88cba1aae8b

Lyon in doubt

mulvy wrote:Lyon in doubt

Legit? Or are you Lyon.

filthridden wrote:

Every time I look at your avatar, it makes me smile.

Thanks Filth and SI. That's a great compliment. I am glad to be able to bring at least a small amount of joy to this crappy, disappointing world

Love seeing you guys discussing the tackle breaks. Not sure if anyone has noticed the big difference between SJs and Teddys..... Teddy was still 'taken to ground' a lot last week when he 'broke the tackle' and didn't manage to get back up, these tackles do not necessarily count as missed tackles, hence the lower TB count number last week. Typically he stays on his feet in these situations.

Every single stat goes through 2 sets of eyes (of 2 people in 2 different offices/countries) before the score updates the next morning. The chance of there being 'favourites' is non-existent.

filthridden wrote:

tackle break is and always has been fending off a player irrelevant of which way you're running.
Hayne got numerous breaks running sideways and fending off several players.

Tackle breaks inconsistenly get given for attempted tackles where the player doesn't even lay a finger on the player, same way that this may or may not count as a missed tackle.

SJ running through JWH/Napa looks like it was a tackle break even though neither of them touched him.
For me, that's a line break and a tackle break is where you actually break a tackle, not run past someone who is trying to tackle you.

I feel like they're handing them out like candy this year.

But only to certain players, who in my opinion, are earmarked for 'whatever' reason. It is a total farce. I have scored players and there has been a 30 point difference. Seriously, there needs to be an enquiry into this.

Finch wrote:Keary to the Roosters supposedly on 2 year deal.

Dont know if that includes this year? Dont think so.

It may as well. If it's confirmed he's signed, he can fuck off. I'm sure Maguire and the team feel the same way. He's a trouble making, overrated little fuckwit. Cya.

prozoneman wrote:Love seeing you guys discussing the tackle breaks. Not sure if anyone has noticed the big difference between SJs and Teddys..... Teddy was still 'taken to ground' a lot last week when he 'broke the tackle' and didn't manage to get back up, these tackles do not necessarily count as missed tackles, hence the lower TB count number last week. Typically he stays on his feet in these situations.

Every single stat goes through 2 sets of eyes (of 2 people in 2 different offices/countries) before the score updates the next morning. The chance of there being 'favourites' is non-existent.

Total bullshit. Prozone are retards. Deal with that as you will, Mr. Propoganda. People aren't as stupid as you'd like them to be.

Lift your game!

Cheers.

Rabbit wrote:

It may as well. If it's confirmed he's signed, he can fuck off. I'm sure Maguire and the team feel the same way. He's a trouble making, overrated little fuckwit. Cya.

Oh how the tables have turned. I thought you were talking him up as a future origin half a couple of years ago. Keary and Reynolds were meant to be the future for Souths and a dominant halves pairing for years to come.

Rabbit wrote:

Total bullshit. Prozone are retards. Deal with that as you will, Mr. Propoganda. People aren't as stupid as you'd like them to be.

Lift your game!

Cheers.

Gee tell us what you really think