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    2016 NRL.com Fantasy thread part 41

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    Post by Milchcow Thu Jun 23, 2016 5:15 pm

    Just a run down on loophole to cover a few things that might trip people up this week.

    To do the loophole properly you need a full squad of 17 or less players.
    By full squad I  mean 1 HOK 2 FRF ... 3 WFBs and 4 reserves of whatever.
    If you only have 2 WFBS this week but have 17 playing then you'll already have an AE coming and loophole won't work.

    You also need to have no moral compass, as using the loophole is only for dirty cheats.
    If you don't wish to loophole, just go back to torrenting Game of Thrones or whatever else you do.


    If you are still OK with things, select a VC who plays before your captain.
    Preferably on different days. eg Fifita plays just 2 hours before James Graham, so you won't know Fifita's final score before having to decide whether to loophole or not.


    Whatever position your captain is in make sure you have a reserve in that position who plays after your VC (or who has a bye)

    Eg if Cam Smith is your captain, but your other hooker is McInnes, you can't loophole because McInness will lock in position as soon as the round kicks off.
    If your VC is Fifita and your 2nd hooker is Lichaa note that as above Lichaa will lock basically as soon as Fifita's game finishes so you won't have a lot of time to decdide whether to loophile or not.

    Players lock whenever their game starts, whether they are actually playing in the game or not.
    Bye players remain unlocked right through the round.


    Now if your VC gets a big score you are ready to loop.
    Personally 60+ is what I'm after, take the money in the bank and don't worry about the risk of a 5th minute injury screwing up things. 50-59 its use your gut time
    Under 50 and stick with your original captain choice


    To loop just sub your captain out with a player who has not yet played.

    It does not matter if this player is a reserve or an NPR, if you keep in mind the following.

    If the player you have subbed into your starting team does not play this weekend - carry on.
    You will now get an AE for that player, and if you've done things right it will be your (ex-)Captain


    If the player you've subbed in is one if your reserves then read on -
    eg Lets just say Cam Smith is your captain and Josh Hodgson is your other hooker
    You can Still swap Smith and Hodgson, as long as you do it before either game kicks off.
    BUT - if Hodgson was a reserve, and you swap him for Smith - you will now only have 3 reserves named.
    So you will be playing with a team of 16 - and if all those 16 players play, you will not get an AE.
    If you manage to name a team with less than 4 reserves (for any reason, not just attempted loops) they will not give you any AEs to make your team up to a full 17.
    Your AE could score 200 points, but unless there is a DNP in your named team for him to sub in for, you will get zilch.
    So if you are in this situation, make sure that after subbing your captain out, that you give yourself a 4th reserve - someone on the bye, or a red dot player yet to be locked out.
    Then your captain can become an AE for this new reserve.
    panthercraig got stung by this last bye round, but let us all learn from his mistake.


    Final thing is to be careful about possible late inclusions that might pop up and become your AE instead of your captain.
    Specifically North Queensland on Monday night might have a few late changes that could stuff people's AE situation.
    Last thing you want is for Jahrome Hughes or Javid Bowen to pop up with a 15 and stuff your loophole.


    So after all that, well done. You have successfully looped. Just sit back, relax, and watch as your original captain scores 100 and you realise there is no way to unloophole


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    Post by rhinoceroo Thu Jun 23, 2016 5:21 pm

    I have 17 plus Hughes this week so can't really risk the loophole. Think I'll put the c on Mannering vs Sharks over Smith vs Wests or Fifita this week though. Tricky decision.
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    Post by Guest Thu Jun 23, 2016 5:24 pm

    Nice stuff Milchy. That's a great post.
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    Post by Guest Thu Jun 23, 2016 5:31 pm

    Great work mr cow, great for people who don't understand how it actually works.

    Still deciding on my captain and like others having Hughes and a slim chance he plays isn't worth the risk.
    Last time cam went big after origin but there is always the risk there, same with Fifita too.
    Mannering is safe you could say is a safer bet but the ceiling isn't as high
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    Post by Liverpool_Bulldog Thu Jun 23, 2016 5:46 pm

    Is Cam Smith loophole possible with Parcell injured??

    Tempted to go left field and VC Cleary and Captain Smith/Brom
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    Post by TBO Thu Jun 23, 2016 6:40 pm

    Archer wrote:Hmm, so I'm thinking of 1 trade this week - Mau to one of the following:
    Mannering
    Podene
    Carty
    Merrin
    Kapow
    JTrbo

    But I've absolutely no idea which to pick. Mannering seems like the best value for money, barely costs me anything but is missing Rd 18 whereas someone like Merrin won't be...
    Opinions/Thoughts?

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    Post by Guest Thu Jun 23, 2016 7:07 pm

    Liverpool_Bulldog wrote:Is Cam Smith loophole possible with Parcell injured??

    Tempted to go left field and VC Cleary and Captain Smith/Brom

    Yes it is.
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    Post by Guest Thu Jun 23, 2016 7:23 pm

    Dammit A-rey.. Giving up on him kept him this whole year and hes been in and out. Alright in you come Milford
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    Post by Cantbeatwinners Thu Jun 23, 2016 8:20 pm

    Is mooper to merrin to sideways, mooper mins and scores all over the place, merrin steady 50-55 score and hopefully higher mins plus plays 18 & 19. Have 80 grand in bank, so could go for any back row/ front row up to 475. Already have fifita, burgess, tolman, npr front row & whitehead, mannering, et, mooper back row plus Bateman, talakai. 7 trades to go
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    Post by Loomer Thu Jun 23, 2016 8:59 pm

    I don't think Milchcow covered the loophole backfire. 

    I had SJ VC Surgess C 

    SJ 65pts loopholed. Surgess scored 99. 34pts lost by loopholing
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    Post by Milchcow Thu Jun 23, 2016 9:13 pm

    Loomer wrote:I don't think Milchcow covered the loophole backfire. 

    I had SJ VC Surgess C 

    SJ 65pts loopholed. Surgess scored 99. 34pts lost by loopholing

    At least you realised it is 34 points lost, and not 68.

    So you win points for doing maths
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    Post by wolfking Thu Jun 23, 2016 9:16 pm

    Mighty Fishes wrote:Dammit A-rey.. Giving up on him kept him this whole year and hes been in and out. Alright in you come Milford

    http://www.foxsports.com.au/nrl/state-of-origin/state-of-origin-2016-blues-no7-adam-reynolds-waiting-to-learn-extent-of-shoulder-injury/news-story/03abb5a8a677697f491a88c807608d24

    I also heard on the way home on triple M that apparently Madge rang the network after they were discussing that Reynolds injury could actually be season ending and told them that it's not as bad as first thought and he could potentially be back next week. You didn't hear Madge talk or anything on air, but that's what was said tonight, take from that what you will.
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    Post by wolfking Thu Jun 23, 2016 9:23 pm

    http://www.news.com.au/sport/nrl/nrl-late-mail-round-16-team-changes-gossip-and-supercoach-tips/news-story/72fb2ff7dbf8f1b79e297be596ebecc5

    Munster in doubt still apparantely.

    Ese to come into the 17.

    Holland looks safe.

    SJ still has the thigh problem but should play.

    Friz to play.

    Dugan probably next week.

    Could be another mess of a weekend.
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    Post by StuDogg101 Thu Jun 23, 2016 10:22 pm

    wolfking wrote:http://www.news.com.au/sport/nrl/nrl-late-mail-round-16-team-changes-gossip-and-supercoach-tips/news-story/72fb2ff7dbf8f1b79e297be596ebecc5

    Munster in doubt still apparantely.

    Ese to come into the 17.

    Holland looks safe.

    SJ still has the thigh problem but should play.

    Friz to play.

    Dugan probably next week.

    Could be another mess of a weekend.

    I have 4 out of those 6 players. Sigh lol
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    Post by Jele Fri Jun 24, 2016 2:11 am

    @milchcow thanks for the captaincy loophole explanation. Worth putting it in the sticky thread along with the BEs etc.
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    Post by Klemhammer Fri Jun 24, 2016 3:23 am

    What's opacics job security like and who to trade out between gutho, Mitchell and Gordon?
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    Post by Finch Fri Jun 24, 2016 7:12 am

    You know its Origin time when barely any posts are being made
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    Post by Liverpool_Bulldog Fri Jun 24, 2016 7:15 am

    Finch wrote:You know its Origin time when barely any posts are being made
    It is a barren wasteland that's for sure. My weekend will be exciting, I have the VC in Cleary, what can possibly go wrong.

    Kinda thinking about Aitken too lol
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    Post by Stinkbug Fri Jun 24, 2016 7:20 am

    Klemhammer wrote:What's opacics job security like and who to trade out between gutho, Mitchell and Gordon?

    I went Mitchell to Opacic. I reckon he has the toughest schedule and high b/e (52) and at the very least Gordon goal kicks and could make some more cash with a b/e of 24. Not enterly sure of job security - kahu listed as TBA on return date? No idea on Maranta, not sure what other "half decent" cashout options are though. 

    Hopefully he doesnt become an AE nightmare towards end of year in any case.
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    Post by StuDogg101 Fri Jun 24, 2016 8:48 am

    Curtis Rona rumoured to be headed to the Western Force. Don't get injured on the way bro

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