2016 NRL.com Fantasy thread part 49

On the leagues, I think it would be better of league changes were done on promotion/relegation (based on overall points, not league position) , rather than completely redoing the leagues each year.

Makes L1 a tougher prospect to get into and stay in, make it a bit more prestigious. At the moment any can come in with one good season and go straight into L1. I did this, I've never played in any league but L1. I just lurked until my rank was good enough for L1 (that wasn't the reason, just worked out like that)

Milchcow will be in L5 next year with his current ranking.

Milchcow wrote:

Sorry guys,  if this rubbish idea goes ahead,  it will be the final straw,  and I would quit the forum over it.



Although I could probably convince my cousin,  aaMilchcow to sign up.

Aardvark Ratnick is all set.

Just saw the roosters at sydney airport.

Latrell has such a baby face.

Still wouldn't like to tackle him though.

rhinoceroo wrote:Good matchup with BourbonBrothers in the L5 elimination final. Think we have two different players so should be close. Ditto versus The Beagles in Welshy's league. One point off the top (The Projectiles) in the smaller overall group though, and that's the one I really want...

Good luck Rhino. After being knocked out in most of my leagues I don't have much left (although I did beat KFP in the GF of MS's league last week)
Go The Beagles.
I'm trying to hold on to my position in L1 for next year.
Agree with Milchcow about a relegation system. It is a prestigious position to hold.

ASI wrote:
Just with this mate, and it is something we would need to discuss when we ramp up again next year, but I think everyone in the Official League this year should get preference for positions in L1, and probably L2 as well.

So if Pookus finishes 16th or better, he would automatically have the option of being in L1 as he is a part of the Official League. 

Anyway, something for you and I to discuss in the preseason.

I'd be happy for you guys to have discretion over people who weren't in the leagues this year. It's such a pain in the arse when people end up in a high league off one lucky season and then bail out halfway through the year. I'm still steaming over the guys who abandoned their teams last year

Milchcow wrote:
On the leagues,  I think it would be better of league changes were done on promotion/relegation (based on overall points,  not league position) ,  rather than completely redoing the leagues each year.

Makes L1 a tougher prospect to get into and stay in,  make it a bit more prestigious.  At the moment any can come in with one good season and go straight into L1.  I did this,  I've never played in any league but L1.  I just lurked until my rank was good enough for L1 (that wasn't the reason,  just worked out like that)

From a purely selfish standpoint it would keep me in a much higher league next year than my rubbish rank this year would get me into.
If you made getting from a newbie league to L1 in a few years achievable I think it would be a great idea. If you only promoted a couple of people per league per year though great coaches could spend 5 or 6 years getting to L1 which is probably a bit of a put off for many people.

Old system i think id be L10 in 2017, new system id drop from L1 to L2. First bad in year in 10 so id be happy to get a little reward lol

Bren wrote:Milchcow will be in L5 next year with his current ranking.

And I'd rather my journey back to league 1 involve slowly climbing back through the ranks, earning every step. Rather than just have 1 good year and go straight back there.

As it is newbies can come in and go straight to the top, which to me tajes away some of the prestige of being an L1 team.

I don't organise the leagues, so I'll just go with the flow, but having a 7 tier league system is appealing to me

Alot to think about with the Leagues.  Agree with Krump that a relegation process would have to be pretty extreme in numbers going up an down other wise we'd have great performers stuck up in the low Leagues for years.

There also is some discretion, and myself and Bren take notice of who plays the year out and who doesn't.  However we go, the intention is to set out the rules clearly again early next year like we did this year, so everything is black and white.

Also if you want to keep movement between leagues, promote/relegate the top/bottom 4 each year. Plenty of opportunity to move around the leagues. With people dropping out through natural attrition between years you'd sometimes get more than half a league changing

Milchcow wrote:

Bren wrote:Milchcow will be in L5 next year with his current ranking.

And I'd rather my journey back to league 1 involve slowly climbing back through the ranks,  earning every step.  Rather than just have 1 good year and go straight back there.

As it is newbies can come in and go straight to the top,  which to me tajes away some of the prestige of being an L1 team.

I don't organise the leagues,  so I'll just go with the flow,  but having a 7 tier league system is appealing to me

There's pros and cons to however we do it.  If we did go relegation it would have to be a significant number going up and down, not just 2.

The other thing is we have 3 or 4 of L7 in the Top 100 Overall, and 2 of them in the Top 10.  Hard to tell those blokes to sit in L6 next year.

Milchcow wrote:
Also if you want to keep movement between leagues,  promote/relegate the top/bottom 4 each year.  Plenty of opportunity to move around the leagues.  With people dropping out through natural attrition between years you'd sometimes get more than half a league changing

How do brand new teams get sorted in the Premier League?  Do they have to start in the lowest tier, or are they judged on previous performance/financials/player ranks etc?

Also I think promotion and relegation is more likely to get L1 and L2 to the top of overall rankings. After a couple years to sort things out the top leagues will be full of proven consistent performers, and not have guys who just fluked a good year

ASI wrote:Alot to think about with the Leagues.  Agree with Krump that a relegation process would have to be pretty extreme in numbers going up an down other wise we'd have great performers stuck up in the low Leagues for years.

There also is some discretion, and myself and Bren take notice of who plays the year out and who doesn't.  However we go, the intention is to set out the rules clearly again early next year like we did this year, so everything is black and white.

Honestly if anyone who doesn't put in the effort to set up the leagues wants to whine about which league you guys put them in then fuck em That type of person is probably a shitty poster anyway.
Whichever way it gets done i'll be slumming it next year so I might take this opportunity to tell all the plebs that aren't in league 1 how good I am and how bad they are. I'm a fantasy amongst mere mortals for the next week.

rhinoceroo wrote:Good matchup with BourbonBrothers in the L5 elimination final. Think we have two different players so should be close. Ditto versus The Beagles in Welshy's league. One point off the top (The Projectiles) in the smaller overall group though, and that's the one I really want...

Last weeks gamble made me drop down to 4th in the overall and no real chance to win that now
I think it will probably come down to my Taupau vs your James ... We have the same players to make this happen haha and would say advantage you there.

ASI wrote:
Just with this mate, and it is something we would need to discuss when we ramp up again next year, but I think everyone in the Official League this year should get preference for positions in L1, and probably L2 as well.

So if Pookus finishes 16th or better, he would automatically have the option of being in L1 as he is a part of the Official League. 

Anyway, something for you and I to discuss in the preseason.

the fly in fly out type coaches who never participate in this forum should not be in higher leagues, thats my opinion

ASI wrote:
How do brand new teams get sorted in the Premier League?  Do they have to start in the lowest tier, or are they judged on previous performance/financials/player ranks etc?

Well you don't get new teams very often, but if you did get a new team it would start very low.

AFC Wimbledon formed in 2002, started in the 9th tier (currently in the 3rd)
FC United of Manchester formed in 2005 and started in the 10th tier (they are now in the 6th)

They are the only 2 examples of new teams I am aware of, although I imagine there might be quite a few other teams down at the very bottom that come and go without ever doing anything of note.

I guess in the hypothetical situation of a new team coming along with a bunch of international quality players, they might be able to get stuck straight into one of the higher leagues, but certainly no one would be going straight into L1 or L2

I may be in L2 but at least I made the GF of my own League. Hi Filthridden!

bluetige wrote:

ASI wrote:
Just with this mate, and it is something we would need to discuss when we ramp up again next year, but I think everyone in the Official League this year should get preference for positions in L1, and probably L2 as well.

So if Pookus finishes 16th or better, he would automatically have the option of being in L1 as he is a part of the Official League. 

Anyway, something for you and I to discuss in the preseason.

the fly in fly out type coaches who never participate in this forum should not be in higher leagues, thats my opinion

They don't go into L1.  L2 in the past we have but will probably not next year.

Also considering a new League next year that would be like L1 and L2-full of guns but would have a minimum few years of posting as a further qualification.