2016 NRL.com Fantasy thread part 50

lloosemcgoose wrote:missed the perfect score by one point in the raiders/panthers game before updates

went; crocker (c), merrin (*vc), papalli (paulo by one point) hogson, wighton and cleary

But did you win?

Edit: nvm it isnt match day prizes but a prize for the entirety of the finals...

There are more people in Antarctica then in this forum of late, Bronco fans can't handle a loss like us Tiger fans, we just suck it up and get ready for the next beating.

We all know TLT's are a joke but the NRL is looking to do something about it, whether their ideas work or not, at least they realise there is a problem. It is not being fixed because of us Fantasy whingers is more to alleviate any possibility of match fixing.

curtousy of SMH; http://www.smh.com.au/rugby-league/league-news/nrl-considers-overhaul-of-squadnaming-system-in-matchfixing-crackdown-20160917-grijvz.html

The NRL is considering a dramatic overhaul of its protocols for team announcements next year, as part of its efforts to safeguard against threats to the integrity of the game.

With fears surrounding gambling and match-fixing growing, the governing body is preparing a radical shake-up to its traditional Tuesday team announcements.
One of the options being considered is asking clubs to name a provisional squad on Tuesday afternoon, as is currently the case, with a limit on the number of players that can be named on an extended bench.

Clubs would then need to provide a revised line-up closer to kick-off, potentially 48 hours before, with a tighter limit on the number of players that can be listed.
he team that takes the field would need to be chosen from the latter list, a move that would significantly reduce the number of late changes or the chances of a coach blooding a rookie without warning.

Such a system would also eradicate a coach's ability to bring in an unnamed player.
That scenario would provide a much stricter protocol than the existing system, whereby clubs can name a squad, with no limits on the size of an extended bench, on the Tuesday regardless of when their match is held.

Coaches often name 17-man squads that bear little resemblance to the line-ups that take the field on game day. Unannounced changes to squads have often been the subject of conjecture, with massive gambling plunges occurring when word has leaked about a star player being a late addition or withdrawal.
The presence or absence of the game's elite can shift betting lines by as many as eight points, making such information valuable to those looking to wager on the outcomes.

The NRL is pressure-testing a range of potential initiatives with a view to implementing them for season 2017.

Darren Murphy, an integrity risk management professional from Sportsafe Solutions, believes the mooted changes are an important initial step in protecting the integrity of rugby league.

"This is a positive first step to tighten up the procedures around the naming of squads, and the NRL integrity unit should be congratulated for taking a proactive step, given the issues it has faced in 2016," Murphy said.

"As we know, a crucial element of any match-fixing or corrupt scheme involves those with 'inside information' using that knowledge to gain an unfair advantage, typically over the wider community.

"By shortening the window around the naming of squads, and not being able to bring in unnamed players at the last minute, this measure will hopefully be a step in the right direction to reduce the amount of change as to what was announced on a Tuesday [and] what runs out on Saturday or Sunday, thereby reducing – but not completely eliminating – the opportunity for people to trade off inside information in betting markets."

The NRL recently updated its code of conduct to bind all club officials including directors, administrators and football staff.

Those bound by the NRL rules are prohibited from wagering on rugby league matches. In relation to insider trading, the code states: "No club or person bound by this code shall provide, either directly or indirectly, information that is not in the public domain in relation to a match (whether, in each case, as to its outcome, its course or otherwise) or the progress of a team in the NRL competition, the National Youth Competition, the related competitions or the representative competitions which might assist another person to gamble in relation to that match or that progress."

NSW police have launched Strike Force Nuralda to probe match-fixing allegations, with dozens of NRL players and identities to be hauled before the Crime Commission.

At a press conference he called, former brothel owner and notorious punter Eddie Hayson said he did not fix NRL games.

Hayson also denied receiving inside information from a host of league identities, including former Newcastle halfback Andrew Johns or suspended Sydney Roosters recruiter Peter O'Sullivan.

"Inside information doesn't ­really exist in rugby league," Hayson said. "Somebody in or somebody out is neither here nor there … I don't bet on inside information."

Warriors CEO Jim Doyle, the former boss of the NRL's integrity unit, recently called for the governing body to revisit its protocols around team announcements, to prevent inside information being leaked for punting purposes.

CrownBet's Matthew Tripp – who is also a co-owner of the Melbourne Storm – is also behind a push to give clubs more time to name their teams so they more accurately reflect the sides that run out on game day.

The NRL has previously considered changing its team-naming protocols, but it is understood one of the reasons for aborting the plans was concerns its match-day program, Big League magazine, would be affected.

How the system could work

Initial squad: All 16 teams must name a squad on Tuesday, the number is yet to be determined, likely 20 to 25 players.

Revised squad: Teams would then be cut back to a smaller squad, about 19 to 20 players, announced a day or two before kick-off.

Final squad: Teams submit their final 17-man line-up of players who can only be chosen from the previously announced squads.

How the system could work

Initial squad: All 16 teams must name a squad on Tuesday, the number is yet to be determined, likely 20 to 25 players.

Revised squad: Teams would then be cut back to a smaller squad, about 19 to 20 players, announced a day or two before kick-off.

Final squad: Teams submit their final 17-man line-up of players who can only be chosen from the previously announced squads.

I don't like that only because lets say Cameron Smith was injured you could easily name him in a 20 - 25 man squad whether the coach knows he is playing or not then on the second one could name him again in a 19 to 20 man squad then in the final team list not name him at all I think that would infact confuse everything more because then people / bookies will think he'll be a chance to play when he was never going to play where as this current system he would just not have been named at all.

I think clubs should have to publicly make announcements through the week as things occur. Name your 17 on Tuesday but if there is a change on the final teams and the club hasnt announced it through the week penalise them. Warm up injury is different I can understand that being a late change with no indication but look at Gallen last week. It was well known that he wasn't playing early but in that situation when the coach ruled him out there should have been an announcement from the team. If the public are informed it will stop the problem

Been saying it for years but the need to move to the nfl system. Combine it with the proposal above. Name 21 man squad Tuesday with anyone under in injury cloud have "questionable" is better then 50% chance of playing and "doubtful" less then 50% chance. On Wednesday night teams then update those status. On Thursday 21 man squads can be trimmed to 18 man squads with further status updates.

I don't think an 18 man Thursday squad would ever work. What if you have 2 players with injury doubts?

NFL is different to NRL in that every player plays every week, and you don't have to distinguish between starting and bench players.

The only thing that can improve is better reporting of injuries, but even then final decisions on if a player will play or not are often made late in the piece.

The easiest thing for a fantasy player to do is change their expectations. Once Big League finally dies as a print publication they'll probably be able to do away with TLT altogether, and help with some of the issues.

On another note. Last night, when Canberra held an 18-0 lead, the commentators talked about the biggest ever finals comeback. Newcastle against Parramatta in 1997.

Parra jumped to an 18-0 lead before going on to lose.

Brian Smith was coach of Parra at the time, and in the press conference he was asked "You jumped to a big lead early in the game, was that part of your plan"

His reply: "No, my plan was to have a big lead at the end of the game"

lloosemcgoose wrote:missed the perfect score by one point in the raiders/panthers game before updates

went; crocker (c), merrin (*vc), papalli (paulo by one point) hogson, wighton and cleary

Wow, you're absolutely killing it this year!

Do what Afl does. Name your team with 3 emergencies and that is that.

I like the idea similar to how Ultimate is where it is a full round lock out, and you get 1 emergency for each position. (Position exclusive emergency. So if your CTR pulls out you get a CTR emergency score only.)

Random wrote:I like the idea similar to how Ultimate is where it is a full round lock out, and you get 1 emergency for each position. (Position exclusive emergency. So if your CTR pulls out you get a CTR emergency score only.)

Such a system would be so much better than what we have now

I went to the Mounties (Canberra) vs Tigers NSW Cup Grand Final qualifier at Leichhardt yesterday. And the game played out pretty much how I expected the first grade game to go a couple of weeks ago.

Tigers started well. Scored in the opening minutes and went to half time leading 18-6.
Then in the 2nd half they could not hold on to the ball to save their lives. Constantly turned over possession coming out of their own half. Eventually the pressure was too much and the Moutnies equalised with about 10 to go. Then with 3 minuets left on the clock the set for the field goal, Tigers defense sprinted up to pressure the kicker and the dummy half strolled over untouched.
Then the Tigers regained the short kickoff, and managed to get a grubber into the ingoal which Michael Chee-Kam was unable to ground (hint of being pushed off the ball, but no videoref (not even any replays at the ground so no idea if there was anything in it at all).

24-18 loss in a game that was entirely in our grasp but got thrown away with stupid mistakes. Was much more true to the Tigers spirit than just getting belted by 50. Would have been devastating if that's how teh first grade game panned out.


Shaun Fensom played in the game and was pretty much anonymous. Curtis Sironen showed why he finally got kicked out of the first grade team. Josh Addo-Carr didn't do much either, they kept trying these little chip kicks and grubbers for him that he had zero chance of getting to, and he came up with some poor handling errors.

Just thought I'd help the page 51 party come along a little quicker with this image of a man mowing the top of his hedge

Is that you "@Big Kev" ?

Hahahaha that guy is an innovator. Outstanding pic thanks for sharing.

little bit closer to the party..

Milchcow wrote:I went to the Mounties (Canberra) vs Tigers NSW Cup Grand Final qualifier at Leichhardt yesterday. And the game played out pretty much how I expected the first grade game to go a couple of weeks ago.

Tigers started well. Scored in the opening minutes and went to half time leading 18-6.
Then in the 2nd half they could not hold on to the ball to save their lives. Constantly turned over possession coming out of their own half. Eventually the pressure was too much and the Moutnies equalised with about 10 to go. Then with 3 minuets left on the clock the set for the field goal, Tigers defense sprinted up to pressure the kicker and the dummy half strolled over untouched.
Then the Tigers regained the short kickoff, and managed to get a grubber into the ingoal which Michael Chee-Kam was unable to ground (hint of being pushed off the ball, but no videoref (not even any replays at the ground so no idea if there was anything in it at all).

24-18 loss in a game that was entirely in our grasp but got thrown away with stupid mistakes. Was much more true to the Tigers spirit than just getting belted by 50. Would have been devastating if that's how teh first grade game panned out.


Shaun Fensom played in the game and was pretty much anonymous. Curtis Sironen showed why he finally got kicked out of the first grade team. Josh Addo-Carr didn't do much either, they kept trying these little chip kicks and grubbers for him that he had zero chance of getting to, and he came up with some poor handling errors.

Thanks for sharing mate. I dunno how your lot are this year but from all reports Mounties have been carving up so I wouldn't be too upset with a 24-18 loss. The way it happened though sounds bloody heartbreaking (and woeful). Blokes like Lima, Fenno, Williams, Kennedy etc in there with the advantage of playing together for most of the year as opposed to other teams who might drop back some FG players after the season is done.

b u c k e t g o b wrote:Hahahaha that guy is an innovator. Outstanding pic thanks for sharing.

little bit closer to the party..

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I would like to see Fensom move to another club...
I don't see him getting any game time at the Raiders next season

Chewie wrote:I would like to see Fensom move to another club...
I don't see him getting any game time at the Raiders next season

Knights, have to be them. No Smith or Rochow.

I feel for Fensom, propping up a pretty ordinary Raiders outfit for years and when they suddenly find success and he gets dumped. Tough game the NRL is sometimes

Mighty Fishes wrote:I feel for Fensom, propping up a pretty ordinary Raiders outfit for years and when they suddenly find success and he gets dumped. Tough game the NRL is sometimes

Unless of course, his dumping was one of the factors in their success.....which I tend to think it has been.