2017 NRL.com Fantasy thread part 38

After some thoughts from the brains trust if possible.

Vaughan is really annoying me and losing cash.

I am thinking that I should trade him to a cheaper more bye-friendly player but I am interested in understanding why his scoring has been so shit first. Is he likely to get his mojo back on, or is it time to cut my losses. It would be handy to use his diminishing cash in other ways.

I didn't consider it until I read his name here that maybe Idris to Joey Manu is a good trade. I always thought about going down instead of slightly going up. I mean for starters it's only 9k spent for someone who is assured a lengthy run given what's happened to SKD so I get a new cash cow and a decent bye player.

Sound like fair logic to everyone?

itsJay wrote:
Kahu -should do better at center with roberts injured . could play fullback when boyd is in origin

Roberts is a chance at being back this week and Kahu, historically, hasn't scored overly well at fullback in the past - and gone even worse at centre. Poor guy can't tackle.

His last scores at centre (in UL, so take it with a grain of salt, but still) are; 21, 1, 7, 8

At fullback; 28, 7, 16, 23, 28

For context, his last 80min efforts on the wing have been 40, 32, 16, 23.

If you get Kahu, I wouldnt expect an increase in his scores.

ED: not to say don't get him - but dont expect replacement level production from him. He should perform to his price, not above it.

Feline wrote:After some thoughts from the brains trust if possible.

Vaughan is really annoying me and losing cash.

I am thinking that I should trade him to a cheaper more bye-friendly player but I am interested in understanding why his scoring has been so shit first. Is he likely to get his mojo back on, or is it time to cut my losses. It would be handy to use his diminishing cash in other ways.

Well he only got 32 minutes against the Storm so his minutes were down and they were getting towelled up to start the game. I don't think his scoring has been that bad though. Last 3 scores are 40, 53 and 26.
Not that bad but by all means if you feel you benefit more from getting him out for someone like Nathan Brown then go for it.

itsJay wrote:

just saw your post after i put up those two players. great minds think alike

Yeah I was surprised you mentioned the same two.

Actually, Manu is a good option, he should keep that spot you'd think now. I think I may have talked myself into him haha.

Feline wrote:After some thoughts from the brains trust if possible.

Vaughan is really annoying me and losing cash.

I am thinking that I should trade him to a cheaper more bye-friendly player but I am interested in understanding why his scoring has been so shit first. Is he likely to get his mojo back on, or is it time to cut my losses. It would be handy to use his diminishing cash in other ways.

Has his scoring really been that shit? Last week he went off for a HIA and the Dragons got destroyed by the Storm wingers so the middle forwards didn't have much to do. The week before that he scored 53 which is higher than the average of every single other FRF except Fifita. He is still the second highest averaging FRF. I'm not seeing a need for crisis.

Liverpool_Bulldog wrote:Maybe another tradeless week, cant really see anything that jumps out, but feel i may be leaving bye planning a bit late.

Smith, Brailey
Fifi, Vaughan, Kaufusi, Musgrove
McGuire, Crichton, Whitehead, ET, CHN, Yates
Norman, Milf, KNiko, Elgey
Smat, Cotric, Kelly, Idris
Turbo, RTS, Hayne, Suli, Abbey

Only 11k so not alot of wiggle room
Anyone see anything? Kelly and Elgey obviously could be used.

I decided to get fair dinkum on your team. I think you need to beef up the bye rounds starting now. Every trade need to either a Rabbit, Eel, Bulldog or Rooster that will score you big points. The origin players and those not playing R12 are the first to go.

Fifi > Graham/Tolman. Vaughan > Brown

Gives you a little cash. Next week, keep the same strategy in mind. If the fantasy gods stick with you, you'll have a great R12 team and a better scoring side.

Hmm....can anyone think of any reason why Manu can't keep that centre spot long term? I'm really thinking about putting him in for Idris. Will play round 12 and BE of 0.

wolfking wrote:Hmm....can anyone think of any reason why Manu can't keep that centre spot long term?  I'm really thinking about putting him in for Idris.  Will play round 12 and BE of 0.

Latrell gets back in Robbo's good books and SKD returns soon is the only way I can see him losing a spot. That'll just kill his status as a money maker, he'd still be a bye option.

Johnny B Goode wrote:
 

Latrell gets back in Robbo's good books and SKD returns soon is the only way I can see him losing a spot. That'll just kill his status as a money maker, he'd still be a bye option.

Dunno if I see SKD returning anytime soon though. Could be worth a gamble.

wolfking wrote:Hmm....can anyone think of any reason why Manu can't keep that centre spot long term?  I'm really thinking about putting him in for Idris.  Will play round 12 and BE of 0.

just keep in mind that the 4 games before his 50+ score, he scored 14, 27, 27, 22

Who is the best half to trade in right now ( already have Norman)

I know Kahu isn't the most attractive option but he does do the goalkicking. The Broncos like scoring tries & are also inclined to take early penalties & kick for goal. So I think that's at least 10 points via goal kicking. Then if he can get some attacking plays & even chip in with a try himself he could go ok. I'm debating this myself & still not sure.

wolfking wrote:

Dunno if I see SKD returning anytime soon though.  Could be worth a gamble.

Yeah like surmo just posted, his scoring has actually been pretty crap so it is a gamble but he looms as a cash cow option anyway. More experience he gets, the higher his involvement could raise. I consider it a better option than sitting around hoping someone like John Folau or Curtis Scott gets a run.
Manu will be playing for the foreseeable future, has good byes and all it takes is another big attacking game with a try or two to send his BE plummeting again.

Klemhammer wrote:Who is the best half to trade in right now ( already have Norman)

Get Munster in before his price skyrockets.

Feline, do not trade Vaughan. His last score was due to HIA only like 3 mins into his second stint. Then he only returned with 3 mins to play totalling 32 mins. U look through most middle forwards against the storm and they all score shit. The storm spread the ball from side to side limiting tackles then because the storm are good it limits attacking opportunities too. Be very surprised if he doesn't score 50 this week.

I know we've been focusing on Frawley with Reynolds out but how do we think Mbye will go. With Frawley organising, Mbye will be left to unleash his running game. He's ok priced @ 317k with a b/e of 43 so if not this week he could be a cheap 2nd half if you can't stretch to the big money halves. Thoughts.

White Lightning wrote:I know Kahu isn't the most attractive option but he does do the goalkicking. The Broncos like scoring tries & are also inclined to take early penalties & kick for goal. So I think that's at least 10 points via goal kicking. Then if he can get some attacking plays & even chip in with a try himself he could go ok. I'm debating this myself & still not sure.

At least 10 points via goal kicking? A week? That would mean Broncos get five tries and score a minimum of 30 points.
That has only happened twice so far this season, what makes you think they're suddenly going to score a lot more points, especially considering origin is coming up and they will be depleted for at least one round.

They are averaging 24 points a game. No way Kahu will get "at least 10 points via goal kicking" each week.
He's only got 10 or more points twice this season from goal-kicking and has scored under 15 points three times so far this season.

I do not think he is a viable option, he will do you more harm than good.

filthridden wrote:

Wouldn't be trading JBrom if I didn't have to.
He'll be back in a fortnight with an intent to prove how passionate he is and not wanting to let Bellyache down again.

Yep. Gains no value, then boom, cheap as chips and a steal for the rest of the year where he needs to make amends. A must buy imo.

Is Hess a trade out? I've grown too attached to him and willing to give him another chance

Or trade him out for Brown who might crash as he is the most traded in player this round IMO