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    Post by Guest Tue May 23, 2017 7:47 pm

    manlybeaver wrote:off topic but who the fuck bombs a concert full of teenage girls jesus this world is going to shit.

    I'll say it, because no one else will.

    Muslim bastards.
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    Post by Guest Tue May 23, 2017 7:50 pm

    awanamafia wrote:

    I've actually decided to bring Elliot in over Gallen.

    Elliot averages 51 over 80mins - admittedly a small sample size but his PPM of 0.66 suggests this is about right. This will see him rise up to approx $450k by R19 when he will be an easy jump to a top range gun.

    6 * 51 = 306 pts + $140K in price gain

    Gallen plays 5 games over the same period (misses 18) so will need to average 61 to match Elliot's points (which happens to be his 5 round avg)

    So same points scored and $140k made for 1 extra trade. No brainer right?

    What am I missing?


    Sample size.
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    Post by Guest Tue May 23, 2017 7:54 pm

    I have Brailey and McInnes.

    Will probably upgrade Brailey after this round.

    A) Go straight to Smith and save a trade for injuries down the track?

    B) Bring in a bye friendly player then upgrade to Smith later on? This will cost me two trades, however it's not really a concern.


    Who is the best player for option B??
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    Post by code delta Tue May 23, 2017 7:56 pm

    Rabbit wrote:

    I'll say it, because no one else will.

    Muslim bastards.

    Do you know that for sure??
    Crazy bastard would do.
    And who offered advice a few weeks back to keep this to fantasy stuff??


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    Post by THEGAME Tue May 23, 2017 7:56 pm

    Who would you start in the centre J Manu or Fui?

    3rd and 4th Reverse of Brailey, Frawley, Matagi or Capewell?

    I'm thinking Fui with (Manu on Wing) and Brailey and Capewell?
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    Post by no_worryers Tue May 23, 2017 7:57 pm

    @Boozecluez

    thanks boozecluez thats amazingly informative info
    awesome stuff! cheer
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    Post by Revraiser Tue May 23, 2017 8:00 pm

    Capewell to the fore. Finally.

    Only one player giving me the shits in my team and thats Cook. If i go Cook to farah, peats will get injured or Madge will tinker anyway. CHN to Fai and Cook to McInnes ?
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    Post by Welshy Tue May 23, 2017 8:02 pm

    Boozecluez wrote:Just had a look at Friend vs Smith vs Farah

    Friend plays 6 games at a conservative average of 50 = 300 (Price goes up approximately 30k)
    Smith plays 4 games at a conservative average of 60 =240 (Price drops approximately 10k)
    Farah plays 6 games at a conservative average of 45 = 270 (Price goes up approximately 70k)

    What are you are gambling on is Smith being rested or Friend increasing workload or ideally both to make a trade back later. This may net you a minimum of 60 points overall (Though points are probably worth more in tough bye rounds)
    When Friend was killing it there was no Pearce or Cordner but the Roosters sucked so his defensive workload was big.

    Farah is a higher risk as no one knows his minutes, but more reward as his price and BE is low and you may make an extra 30 points.
    With no Cook then he would be a definite go, but he could jump in at anytime or even start.

    The potential of Farah or Friend is they can and have score 60's which would be great, but ideally you would want this to happen to make these trades great ones.

    As I write this, I think to myself, that if it costs me 2 trades to trade Smith (in and out) and I am low on trades then what can i do?
    How can I get a similar reward for 1 less trade with less risk.

    That would be to trade Abbey to Nu Brown via DPP
    Gets me 60 points over 2 bye rounds, 30k in bank and no risk while costing me 1 trade.

    Moral of the story if you don't have a full 25 players and some failed cows, perhaps it isn't stupid to trade sideways to a player with good byes rather than trade a gun in/out
    Good work

    I'm still going Smith - Kaysa and Abbey - Nu Brown
    next week probably Mcinnes - McCullough

    Willing to take the risk on getting Smith out
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    Post by Guest Tue May 23, 2017 8:09 pm

    Welshy wrote:
    Good work

    I'm still going Smith - Kaysa and Abbey - Nu Brown
    next week probably Mcinnes - McCullough

    Willing to take the risk on getting Smith out

    Fair enough, I would love to take the gamble if I had the spare trades. Friend would be my choice here too as I feel he will go well over 80 mins and the added responsibility.

    Still I need to upgrade both my halves, bring in another Fullback and perhaps upgrade Whitehead.
    Chuck in a couple cash outs to help fund this and it probably leaves me with 6 trades for injuries for the year......
    You can see my predicament haha
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    Post by Welshy Tue May 23, 2017 8:12 pm

    Boozecluez wrote:

    Fair enough, I would love to take the gamble if I had the spare trades. Friend would be my choice here too as I feel he will go well over 80 mins and the added responsibility.

    Still I need to upgrade both my halves, bring in another Fullback and perhaps upgrade Whitehead.
    Chuck in a couple cash outs to help fund this and it probably leaves me with 6 trades for injuries for the year......
    You can see my predicament haha
    100% mate

    I'm usually down to minimum trades by now haha I saved a few so with a treble trade I will still have 16, not amazing but will have to

    Milford and McCullough have killed me this round, costing me trades and loss of potentially 100 points in a tough bye

    Only reason I've gone Kaysa over Friend is my low R15 stocks, and the need to treble trade this round
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    Post by Guest Tue May 23, 2017 8:28 pm

    Verbal Kint wrote:Looks like I'm rolling with

    Friend Cook
    Graham Brown
    Gallen Surgess Mannering Bodene Elliot
    SJ Walker Frawley
    Croker Cotric
    RTS Radradra CNK

    Good luck for rounds 13-19.
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    Post by Guest Tue May 23, 2017 8:38 pm

    Heres a fun one, going to need to upgrade Niko + Frawley over the next couple weeks.
    Won't be able to afford a top class half like Johnson/Pearce so going to have to rely on a fallen gun to return to form = cut price keeper

    Which 2 of the below money ball options below. A lot of ??? as a low score on a high BE will make the price plummet.
    Niko would be a definite out next week so he a round 13 trade, Frawley would have a couple weeks extra weeks up his sleeve

    Cleary for next week would be my pick (as would only have one bye left) while Munster appeals too
    Though assuming they all cost 420k , this is where it gets interesting.

    B Hunt (453k Be 70) 1.3% ownership  
    A Reynolds (466k Be 71) 4.6% ownership
    C Munster (425k Be 47) 8% ownership
    N Cleary (409k Be 42) 8.2 % ownership
    DCE (399k Be 44) 6.1% ownership
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    Post by Welshy Tue May 23, 2017 8:41 pm

    Boozecluez wrote:Heres a fun one, going to need to upgrade Niko + Frawley over the next couple weeks.
    Won't be able to afford a top class half like Johnson/Pearce so going to have to rely on a fallen gun to return to form  = cut price keeper

    Which 2 of the below money ball options below. A lot of ??? as a low score on a high BE will make the price plummet.
    Niko would be a definite out next week so he a round 13 trade, Frawley would have a couple weeks extra weeks up his sleeve

    Cleary for next week would be my pick (as would only have one bye left) while Munster appeals too
    Though assuming they all cost 420k , this is where it gets interesting.

    B Hunt (453k Be 70) 1.3% ownership  
    A Reynolds (466k Be 71) 4.6% ownership
    C Munster (425k Be 47) 8% ownership
    N Cleary (409k Be 42) 8.2 % ownership
    DCE (399k Be 44) 6.1% ownership
    I will be targeting Cleary after R15
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    Post by Guest Tue May 23, 2017 8:42 pm

    These bastards in Manchester should be skinned alive for their cowardly act. But what happens to the bastard that was Obama who sent countless drones into the Middle East & bombed countless villages & killed hundreds if not thousands of innocent women & children. We never seemed to get any media coverage of that.
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    Post by Ozymandias Tue May 23, 2017 8:48 pm

    Guys - I'm from Manchester and have had quite a harrowing day on the phone to relatives - I came here to get away from the horror, can we not .... please.
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    Post by Welshy Tue May 23, 2017 8:49 pm

    Ozymandias wrote:Guys - I'm from Manchester and have had quite a harrowing day on the phone to relatives - I came here to get away from the horror, can we not .... please.
    Think that is fair mate, hope all is well!
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    Post by Ozymandias Tue May 23, 2017 8:53 pm

    Welshy wrote:
    Think that is fair mate, hope all is well!

    All ok thanks - no dramas directly, just a shocking day
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    Post by Frol Tue May 23, 2017 8:54 pm

    Boozecluez wrote:Just had a look at Friend vs Smith vs Farah

    Friend plays 6 games at a conservative average of 50 = 300 (Price goes up approximately 30k)
    Smith plays 4 games at a conservative average of 60 =240 (Price drops approximately 10k)
    Farah plays 6 games at a conservative average of 45 = 270 (Price goes up approximately 70k)

    What you are gambling on is Smith being rested or Friend increasing workload or ideally both to make a trade back later. This may net you a minimum of 60 points overall (Though points are probably worth more in tough bye rounds)
    When Friend was killing it (first half of last year) there was no Pearce or Cordner and to be honest the Roosters sucked so his defensive workload was big.

    Farah is a higher risk as no one knows his minutes, but more reward as his price and BE is low.
    He will probably give an extra 30 points overall over Smith but Madge could just as easy give Cook more time to keep him happy.
    With no Cook then he would be a definite go, but he could jump in at anytime or even start =hence the risk.

    The potential of Farah or Friend is they can and have score 60's which would be great, but ideally you would want this to happen to make these trades great ones.

    As I write this, I think to myself, that if it costs me 2 trades to trade Smith (in and out) and I am low on trades then what can i do?
    How can I get a similar reward for 1 less trade with less risk.

    That would be to trade Abbey to Nu Brown via DPP
    Gets me at least 60 points over 2 bye rounds, 30k in bank and no risk while costing me 1 trade.
    Brown is a more than capable half, can break a tackle and will play 80 mins so no worries about a 10 minute bench cameo like a cheap forward might do

    Moral of the story if you don't have a full 25 players and some failed cows, perhaps it isn't stupid to trade sideways to a player with good byes rather than trade a gun in/out

    Agreed. Good post. Trades also depend on your team's situation.

    For mine, Cook out for Farah, first trade locked in;
    a) taking the risk at $315k ($9k cost)
    b) Farah will be out to prove a point this week and can go mega when mad
    c) $40k minimum turnaround on holding Cook another week
    d) take my medicine that Brailey to Cook was my 2nd worst trade of the season (traded Vaughan week 2....... cough cough)
    e) the more reasons you can come up with, the more comfortable you are with the trade
    f) see e)
    g) nostalgia - a CS9 and Farah combo were the best HOK combo not so long ago....


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    Post by Spuddies Tue May 23, 2017 8:58 pm

    I was planning on bringing in Graham and Gallen for McGuire and Wallace. The only thing is I thought that Gallen had dpp status and that I had at least one second rower with DPP. Turns out that's not the case. I still want to bring Gallen in.

    Out of the following, who needs to make way for Gallen.
    Whitehead
    Elliot
    Surgess
    CHN
    Crichton
    JBD

    I'm thinking CHN has peaked. Thoughts?
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    Post by standard-issue Tue May 23, 2017 9:03 pm

    Spuddies wrote:I was planning on bringing in Graham and Gallen for McGuire and Wallace. The only thing is I thought that Gallen had dpp status and that I had at least one second rower with DPP. Turns out that's not the case. I still want to bring Gallen in.

    Out of the following, who needs to make way for Gallen.
    Whitehead
    Elliot
    Surgess
    CHN
    Crichton
    JBD

    I'm thinking CHN has peaked. Thoughts?

    Agreed on CHN, will probably ditch him this week as well.

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