2018 NRL.com Fantasy thread part 1

2015 and 2016 stats for those wanting more research

http://www.mediafire.com/file/fkxlw0139cvc529/2015%20Prozone%20stats.xlsx

http://www.mediafire.com/file/5dks6icv6339m1d/2016%20Prozone%20stats.xlsx

Honeybadger's team picker site for those who missed the link
http://www.azwebsolutions.co.nz/teampicker.php

Link also added to page 1 of the thread

Welshy wrote:

SI wrote:

 I too can see Evans tempting me (again) and also have been waiting years for Terepo to show something.

If there was a time for Evans to show what he can do this is the year, with little infront of him in terms of high class international/origin props like he was faced with at the roosters, now or never for fantasy relevance

Yeah, Parra's FRF has been very plain the last few years. He could be massive.

SI wrote:

Yeah, Parra's FRF has been very plain the last few years.  He could be massive.

Not sure he goes much over 30 points wise, but priced at 22, some decent cash to be made.

How you feeling about your Tigers mate?

Welshy wrote:@MightyFishes

I would love Welch to get some decent, typical minutes week in week out but they vary too much, if he got anywhere near 40 minutes constantly he would be great as a decent money maker and reserve

Not sure it changes with Kas and Kaufusi arriving though

I think PKaufusi is more of a depth signing. I honestly think their bench will be Kas, NAS, Welch, KBrom.

I was really keen on NAS during the WC but ive since gone cold on him.

I have no idea but I don't think Hoffman will be playing 80mins and Funicaines mins will slightly decrease and Kas wont be playing big minutes I think he'll be used as a battering ram in short stints with Jbrom, Glasby, NAS and Welch as the main props.

Again that's personal opinion I really have no idea.

Welshy wrote:

SI wrote:

Yeah, Parra's FRF has been very plain the last few years.  He could be massive.

Not sure he goes much over 30 points wise, but priced at 22, some decent cash to be made.

How you feeling about your Tigers mate?

REALLY looking forward to seeing what Taane can do. We have been so weak in the Centres for years, and it doesn't help that we haven't had a gun Second Rower out wide since Ellis either. Hopefully Liddle can put a full season together but McIllwrick did a pretty good job; so long as Ivan keeps ET the fuck away from the 9.

Oh, and Benji to party like it's 2005


Deadset do much talent with your mob, anything to suggest they can change their attitude? Green should help SJ but not sure what else changes.

Mighty Fishes wrote:

Welshy wrote:@MightyFishes

I would love Welch to get some decent, typical minutes week in week out but they vary too much, if he got anywhere near 40 minutes constantly he would be great as a decent money maker and reserve

Not sure it changes with Kas and Kaufusi arriving though

I think PKaufusi is more of a depth signing. I honestly think their bench will be Kas, NAS, Welch, KBrom.

I was really keen on NAS during the WC but ive since gone cold on him.

I have no idea but I don't think Hoffman will be playing 80mins and Funicaines mins will slightly decrease and Kas wont be playing big minutes I think he'll be used as a battering ram in short stints with Jbrom, Glasby, NAS and Welch as the main props.

Again that's personal opinion I really have no idea.

Yeah, unfortunately I think the days of Lord Dale being a solid mid ranger are done. One less bloke for me and Welshy to blame year in year out.

Mighty Fishes wrote:

I think PKaufusi is more of a depth signing. I honestly think their bench will be Kas, NAS, Welch, KBrom.

I was really keen on NAS during the WC but ive since gone cold on him.

I have no idea but I don't think Hoffman will be playing 80mins and Funicaines mins will slightly decrease and Kas wont be playing big minutes I think he'll be used as a battering ram in short stints with Jbrom, Glasby, NAS and Welch as the main props.

Again that's personal opinion I really have no idea.

So many team make up possibilites in that Storm pack without Harris, taking up that 80 minute edge role, hopefully JBrom gets big minutes again because he is full of value at his current price for what he is capable of!

SI wrote:

REALLY looking forward to seeing what Taane can do.  We have been so weak in the Centres for years, and it doesn't help that we haven't had a gun Second Rower out wide since Ellis either.  Hopefully Liddle can put a full season together but McIllwrick did a pretty good job; so long as Ivan keeps ET the fuck away from the 9.

Oh, and Benji to party like it's 2005


Deadset do much talent with your mob, anything to suggest they can change their attitude?  Green should help SJ but not sure what else changes.

I have always had a soft spot for the Tigers and Knights so hope they go well this year, I'm especially excited to see how Brown does with some decent talent of his own choosing finally at his disposal!

Nope, Green is a nice addition in aiding SJ but no point helping Johnson out when your pack is getting crushed everyweek! Front row stocks outside Blair are awful and he will give up after a few weeks of getting smashed around every week! backrow will be decent, I love Harris but we will be constantly on the backfoot

I thought McGuires scores tailed off, was more he had a poor mid season run

first 14 round average - 51 (13 games)

R15-R26 (minus injury affected R17) - 44 (8 games)

R16, R20, R21 with origin and a DNP inbetween for an avg of 30, this knocked his average down a touch

dual FR/2RF, could be some value there especially if he elevates without Blair/Easy E

Welshy wrote:

SI wrote:

REALLY looking forward to seeing what Taane can do.  We have been so weak in the Centres for years, and it doesn't help that we haven't had a gun Second Rower out wide since Ellis either.  Hopefully Liddle can put a full season together but McIllwrick did a pretty good job; so long as Ivan keeps ET the fuck away from the 9.

Oh, and Benji to party like it's 2005


Deadset do much talent with your mob, anything to suggest they can change their attitude?  Green should help SJ but not sure what else changes.

I have always had a soft spot for the Tigers and Knights so hope they go well this year, I'm especially excited to see how Brown does with some decent talent of his own choosing finally at his disposal!

Nope, Green is a nice addition in aiding SJ but no point helping Johnson out when your pack is getting crushed everyweek! Front row stocks outside Blair are awful and he will give up after a few weeks of getting smashed around every week! backrow will be decent, I love Harris but we will be constantly on the backfoot

Yeah, can see Blair going that way as well. If the Props do manage to stand up though you've got the rest of the park covered.

With all the defense the Warriors will be doing this year I think Mannering will be scoring 55+ easy.

What we really need to see is how trades will work this year.

8 teams miss round 13, and the other 8 teams miss round 17.

If you have 17 players play in round 13, you have 4 rounds to swap 13 of them out if you want a full team in round 17.
That assumes everyone in your 21 is fit and selected each week, and nobody plays origin.

And then after round 17 you'll have to quickly trade in any keepers who just had the bye (you can have a max of 4 in your NPRs)

Unless we get a trade wildcard, fielding 17 in both byes will be night on impossible. At least, even if it is possible, it's probably worthless as you'll have to kill your scores massively in the intervening rounds to do it.


Origin players also interesting. Unless they get rested after origin, trading them our for a 'bye player' will only get you one more scoring week.
I'm thinking Cam Smith might get a rest or 2 this year again though, so possibly Jake Friend or someone might come in for him in my team.

Milchcow wrote:Team planner updated with missing player stats added
http://www.mediafire.com/file/t5bib5abkax0t9c/2018%20Team%20Planner%20v0.1.xlsm

I'd look at it more thoroughly myself, but its easier when I have Chewie doing unpaid Beta testing for me

Not sure if I should be feeling used ... or if I should take it as a compliment

Good to see the crew back online!
Welcome to the 2018 thread!

Dylan Edwards I think could enter the fantasy WFB elite this year, only scored 1 try last year and still averaged over 45, got shafted plenty on the lack of TBs like CWalker used to as well! If Sandeep and Ganesh can sort their shit out and give him those Ponga/Tedesco calls, he could really fire

List of DPP players I will just leave here for reference:

Tyrone Peachey: 2RF, CTR, $503,000
Tyrone May: HLF, 2RF, $448,000
Bryce Cartwright: 2RF, HLF, $325,000
Dean Whare: CTR, WFB, $287,000
Sione Katoa: HOK, 2RF, $228,000
David Klemmer: FRF, 2RF, $640,000
Will Hopoate: WFB, CTR, $607,000
Renouf Toomaga: CTR, 2RF, $212,000
Kerrod Holland: CTR, WFB, $441,000
Fa'amanu Brown: HLF, HOK, $372,000
Moses Mbye: HLF, WFB, $558,000
Tyrone Taukamo: CTR,WFB, $212,000
Cody Walker: HLF, WFB, $627,000
Tyrell Fuimaono: CTR, 2RF, $494,000
Robert Jennings: CTR, WFB, $395,000
Richard Kennar: CTR, WFB, $228,000
Jesse Martin: 2RF, HOK, $212,000
Mawene Hiroti: CTR,WFB, $212,000
Dane Gagai: CTR, WFB, $631,000
Patrick Sipley: 2RF, FRF, $212,000
Agnatius Paasi: FRF, 2RF, $371,000
Jazz Tevaga: HOK, 2RF, $360,000
Gerard Beale: CTR, WFB, $322,000
Peta Hiku: CTR, WFB, $283,000
David Fusitua: WFB, CTR, $423,000
Nene Macdonald: WFB, CTR, $512,000
Kurt Mann: WFB, HLF, $510,000
Jacob Host: FRF, 2RF, $327,000
Hame Sele: 2RF, FRF, $267,000
Mitchell Allgood: FRF,2RF, $228,000
Patrick Herbert: CTR,WFB, $212,000
Jordan Pereira: CTR,WFB, $212,000
Zac Lomax: CTR,WFB, $212,000
Tristan Sailor: WFB,HLF, $212,000
Clinton Gutherson: WFB, HLF, $651,000
Jarryd Hayne: WFB, CTR, $448,000
Kirisome Auva'a: WFB, CTR, $404,000
Will Smith: HLF, WFB, $404,000
Josh Hoffman: WFB, CTR, $308,000
Nathan Davis: CTR, WFB, $246,000
Greg Leleisiuao: WFB,CTR, $212,000
George Jennings: CTR, WFB, $212,000
Martin Taupau: 2RF, FRF, $757,000
Apisai Koroisau: HOK, HLF, $631,000
Matthew Wright: WFB, CTR, $434,000
Lewis Brown: 2RF, CTR, $228,000
Cameron Cullen: HLF, HOK, $228,000
Ryan James: FRF, 2RF, $700,000
Jarrod Wallace: FRF, 2RF, $642,000
Max King: FRF, 2RF, $462,000
Tony Mata'utia: 2RF, CTR, $212,000
Karl Lawton: CTR, HOK, $322,000
Dan Sarginson: WFB, CTR, $299,000
Jamal Fogarty: WFB, HLF, $228,000
Alexander Brimson: HLF, WFB, $212,000
Dale Copley: WFB, CTR, $392,000
Josh McGuire: 2RF, FRF, $679,000
Kodi Nikorima: HLF, HOK, $545,000
Jamayne Isaako: CTR, WFB, $228,000
Jordan Kahu: WFB, CTR, $403,000
George Fai: 2RF, FRF, $321,000
Sam Thaiday: 2RF, FRF, $452,000
Josh Dugan: WFB, CTR, $605,000
Matt Moylan: WFB, HLF, $501,000
Kurt Capewell: 2RF, CTR, $494,000
Aaron Gray: WFB, CTR, $360,000
Briton Nikora: 2RF, CTR, $212,000
Robbie Rochow: 2RF, FRF, $312,000
Tuimoala Lolohea: HLF, WFB, $612,000
Alex Twal: FRF, 2RF, $586,000
Esan Marsters: 2RF, CTR, $523,000
Moses Suli: CTR, WFB, $455,000
Sauaso Sue: 2RF, FRF, $420,000
Michael Chee-Kam: 2RF, CTR, $379,000
Kevin Naiqama: CTR, WFB, $376,000
Matthew Eisenhuth: FRF, 2RF, $644,000
Jamie Buhrer: 2RF, HOK, $659,000
Sione Mata'utia: 2RF, CTR, $512,000
Shaun Kenny-Dowall: CTR, WFB, $441,000
Luke Yates: 2RF, FRF, $425,000
Connor Watson: HLF, HOK, $401,000
Slade Griffin: 2RF, HOK, $382,000
Jacob Saifiti: 2RF, FRF, $364,000
Christian Hazard: HLF, HOK, $212,000
Josh Papalii: 2RF, FRF, $726,000
Nick Cotric: CTR, WFB, $560,000
Bill Cullen: 2RF,FRF, $212,000
Erin Clark: HLF, HOK, $228,000
Makahesi Makatoa: 2RF, FRF, $212,000
Royce Hunt: FRF, 2RF, $228,000
Mitchell Aubusson: 2RF, CTR, $573,000
Brock Gray: FRF, 2RF, $212,000
Latrell Mitchell: WFB, CTR, $556,000
Isaac Liu: FRF, 2RF, $515,000
Blake Ferguson: WFB, CTR, $483,000
Joseph Manu: WFB, CTR, $402,000
Ryan Matterson: HLF, 2RF, $559,000
Scott Bolton: 2RF, FRF, $606,000
Shaun Fensom: 2RF, FRF, $475,000
Javid Bowen: CTR, WFB, $449,000
John Asiata: 2RF, FRF, $381,000
Corey Jensen: FRF, 2RF, $297,000
Ben Hampton: HLF, HOK, $285,000
Justin Olam: WFB, CTR, $212,000
Young Tonumaipea: WFB, CTR, $415,000
Jahrome Hughes: WFB, HLF, $403,000
Nelson Asofa-Solomona: 2RF, FRF, $481,000


Out of those I like Gagai and Cartwright

mulvy wrote:List of DPP players I will just leave here for reference:

Tyrone Peachey: 2RF, CTR, $503,000
Tyrone May: HLF, 2RF, $448,000
Bryce Cartwright: 2RF, HLF, $325,000
Dean Whare: CTR, WFB, $287,000
Sione Katoa: HOK, 2RF, $228,000
David Klemmer: FRF, 2RF, $640,000
Will Hopoate: WFB, CTR, $607,000
Renouf Toomaga: CTR, 2RF, $212,000
Kerrod Holland: CTR, WFB, $441,000
Fa'amanu Brown: HLF, HOK, $372,000
Moses Mbye: HLF, WFB, $558,000
Tyrone Taukamo: CTR,WFB, $212,000
Cody Walker: HLF, WFB, $627,000
Tyrell Fuimaono: CTR, 2RF, $494,000
Robert Jennings: CTR, WFB, $395,000
Richard Kennar: CTR, WFB, $228,000
Jesse Martin: 2RF, HOK, $212,000
Mawene Hiroti: CTR,WFB, $212,000
Dane Gagai: CTR, WFB, $631,000
Patrick Sipley: 2RF, FRF, $212,000
Agnatius Paasi: FRF, 2RF, $371,000
Jazz Tevaga: HOK, 2RF, $360,000
Gerard Beale: CTR, WFB, $322,000
Peta Hiku: CTR, WFB, $283,000
David Fusitua: WFB, CTR, $423,000
Nene Macdonald: WFB, CTR, $512,000
Kurt Mann: WFB, HLF, $510,000
Jacob Host: FRF, 2RF, $327,000
Hame Sele: 2RF, FRF, $267,000
Mitchell Allgood: FRF,2RF, $228,000
Patrick Herbert: CTR,WFB, $212,000
Jordan Pereira: CTR,WFB, $212,000
Zac Lomax: CTR,WFB, $212,000
Tristan Sailor: WFB,HLF, $212,000
Clinton Gutherson: WFB, HLF, $651,000
Jarryd Hayne: WFB, CTR, $448,000
Kirisome Auva'a: WFB, CTR, $404,000
Will Smith: HLF, WFB, $404,000
Josh Hoffman: WFB, CTR, $308,000
Nathan Davis: CTR, WFB, $246,000
Greg Leleisiuao: WFB,CTR, $212,000
George Jennings: CTR, WFB, $212,000
Martin Taupau: 2RF, FRF, $757,000
Apisai Koroisau: HOK, HLF, $631,000
Matthew Wright: WFB, CTR, $434,000
Lewis Brown: 2RF, CTR, $228,000
Cameron Cullen: HLF, HOK, $228,000
Ryan James: FRF, 2RF, $700,000
Jarrod Wallace: FRF, 2RF, $642,000
Max King: FRF, 2RF, $462,000
Tony Mata'utia: 2RF, CTR, $212,000
Karl Lawton: CTR, HOK, $322,000
Dan Sarginson: WFB, CTR, $299,000
Jamal Fogarty: WFB, HLF, $228,000
Alexander Brimson: HLF, WFB, $212,000
Dale Copley: WFB, CTR, $392,000
Josh McGuire: 2RF, FRF, $679,000
Kodi Nikorima: HLF, HOK, $545,000
Jamayne Isaako: CTR, WFB, $228,000
Jordan Kahu: WFB, CTR, $403,000
George Fai: 2RF, FRF, $321,000
Sam Thaiday: 2RF, FRF, $452,000
Josh Dugan: WFB, CTR, $605,000
Matt Moylan: WFB, HLF, $501,000
Kurt Capewell: 2RF, CTR, $494,000
Aaron Gray: WFB, CTR, $360,000
Briton Nikora: 2RF, CTR, $212,000
Robbie Rochow: 2RF, FRF, $312,000
Tuimoala Lolohea: HLF, WFB, $612,000
Alex Twal: FRF, 2RF, $586,000
Esan Marsters: 2RF, CTR, $523,000
Moses Suli: CTR, WFB, $455,000
Sauaso Sue: 2RF, FRF, $420,000
Michael Chee-Kam: 2RF, CTR, $379,000
Kevin Naiqama: CTR, WFB, $376,000
Matthew Eisenhuth: FRF, 2RF, $644,000
Jamie Buhrer: 2RF, HOK, $659,000
Sione Mata'utia: 2RF, CTR, $512,000
Shaun Kenny-Dowall: CTR, WFB, $441,000
Luke Yates: 2RF, FRF, $425,000
Connor Watson: HLF, HOK, $401,000
Slade Griffin: 2RF, HOK, $382,000
Jacob Saifiti: 2RF, FRF, $364,000
Christian Hazard: HLF, HOK, $212,000
Josh Papalii: 2RF, FRF, $726,000
Nick Cotric: CTR, WFB, $560,000
Bill Cullen: 2RF,FRF, $212,000
Erin Clark: HLF, HOK, $228,000
Makahesi Makatoa: 2RF, FRF, $212,000
Royce Hunt: FRF, 2RF, $228,000
Mitchell Aubusson: 2RF, CTR, $573,000
Brock Gray: FRF, 2RF, $212,000
Latrell Mitchell: WFB, CTR, $556,000
Isaac Liu: FRF, 2RF, $515,000
Blake Ferguson: WFB, CTR, $483,000
Joseph Manu: WFB, CTR, $402,000
Ryan Matterson: HLF, 2RF, $559,000
Scott Bolton: 2RF, FRF, $606,000
Shaun Fensom: 2RF, FRF, $475,000
Javid Bowen: CTR, WFB, $449,000
John Asiata: 2RF, FRF, $381,000
Corey Jensen: FRF, 2RF, $297,000
Ben Hampton: HLF, HOK, $285,000
Justin Olam: WFB, CTR, $212,000
Young Tonumaipea: WFB, CTR, $415,000
Jahrome Hughes: WFB, HLF, $403,000
Nelson Asofa-Solomona: 2RF, FRF, $481,000


Out of those I like Gagai and Cartwright

Maubbs

Welshy wrote:Dylan Edwards I think could enter the fantasy WFB elite this year, only scored 1 try last year and still averaged over 45, got shafted plenty on the lack of TBs like CWalker used to as well! If Sandeep and Ganesh can sort their shit out and give him those Ponga/Tedesco calls, he could really fire

Only 1 try, holy fuck! Although the worry is he continues to get shafted on TB's and someone like Ponga continues to get ghosties.

Has there been any mention on how many trades there will be? I'm just trying to get my head around how much a trade is worth. Previously you might say for example that you want your cows to make about 100k (about a ten point improvement) to make the trade worthwhile. A ten point improvement with the magic number of 14645 means you would want close to a 150k improvement, but it won't be as simple as that because of the new bye schedule and how many trades they end up giving us. More importantly for now though, I wonder how much of an improvement I should be looking for? Someone priced 10 under what I think they'll get? More? Thoughts?