2018 NRL.com Fantasy thread part 3

Archer wrote:Question for Tohu owners, what makes you think he won't suffer a Proctor?
I haven't checked his stats but I'm sure he must have got a decent amount of attacking stats that may not be on offer in another team.
To be clear, not knocking the pick - I almost had him in my team because I've used him for a few seasons now, the above fears put me off when i thought about it so I'd like to know why it doesn't concern others and I'm just a big fat Aaron Woods.

This was m rundown on Harris mate

Player: Tohu Harris
Club: New Zealand Warriors
Previous Club: Melbourne Storm
Position: 2RF
Cost: $615,000
2016 average: 52
2017 average: 42
2017 minutes average: 68
Handsomeness rating: 3.5/5 Mitch Aubbussons (don’t let the shaggy hair fool you)

Harris missed the start of the 2017 season due to injury and took a while to get back into the swing of fantasy scoring averaging a mediocre 40.5 points a game over his first 4 games, this is more akin to a seasoned fantasy mid ranger than a gun 2RF Harris morphed into last year.
A few more injury affected outings in R16, 17 & 24 further dived his season scoring average to its worse total since the 14’ season. Harris is an absolute weapon, and as a ball playing backrower who cuts some wonderful lines there aren’t many better in the game.

Starting 2RF points average: 42
adjusted scoring average: 51 (8 games) (discounting 3 injury affected games R16, 17 & 24)
Harris lowest score (minus injury affected games) was a R18 34 with a high score in R26 of 96 (with 2 tries)
3 round finals average of 61 (no tries)

Wrap up
A move to his homeland team might affect his attacking potential because lets face it the Warriors are a scrub team compared the well oiled machine of a team he leaves at the Storm, There is hope the extra defensive work Tohu will pick up could balance out the attacking situations (and points off the back of them) Harris will find harder to come by at the Warriors. I’m still expecting a bounce back year for Tohu and there is plenty of value in him
predicted 2018 avg - 45-50 points

Welshy wrote:

This was m rundown on Harris mate  

Player: Tohu Harris
Club: New Zealand Warriors
Previous Club: Melbourne Storm
Position: 2RF
Cost: $615,000
2016 average: 52
2017 average: 42
2017 minutes average: 68
Handsomeness rating: 3.5/5 Mitch Aubbussons (don’t let the shaggy hair fool you)

Harris missed the start of the 2017 season due to injury and took a while to get back into the swing of fantasy scoring averaging a mediocre 40.5 points a game over his first 4 games, this is more akin to a seasoned fantasy mid ranger than a gun 2RF Harris morphed into last year.
A few more injury affected outings in R16, 17 & 24 further dived his season scoring average to its worse total since the 14’ season. Harris is an absolute weapon, and as a ball playing backrower who cuts some wonderful lines there aren’t many better in the game.

Starting 2RF points average: 42
adjusted scoring average: 51 (8 games) (discounting 3 injury affected games R16, 17 & 24)
Harris lowest score (minus injury affected games) was a R18 34 with a high score in R26 of 96 (with 2 tries)
3 round finals average of 61 (no tries)

Wrap up
A move to his homeland team might affect his attacking potential because lets face it the Warriors are a scrub team compared the well oiled machine of a team he leaves at the Storm, There is hope the extra defensive work Tohu will pick up could balance out the attacking situations (and points off the back of them) Harris will find harder to come by at the Warriors. I’m still expecting a bounce back year for Tohu and there is plenty of value in him
predicted 2018 avg - 45-50 points

Also his base stats over the last three years including finals but taking out the three injury reduced times games last year is about 45, 3 more than his price in base stats alone. The odd attacking stats should see him back to 50 imo.

@Archer... Proctor played outside Cronk on Melbourne's go-to side. Anyone playing in that position is going to benefit as shown by Felise last year.

Harris scored well on the Storm's other side, and will be getting through the tackles shadowing SJ this year... where even Bodene scored loads of tries, and Tohu is twice the real life player Bodene is.

I just spent about an hour picking my first team. I am not good at using the team planner.

I get the impression that is the good to stack the first four spots of your bench with DPPs (at least) and consider doing this for all eight of them.

I think Nikorama DPP HOK/HLF could be value in the Hooker spot with the uncertaintly about Cook and Farah, while Lichaa seems to have more value as a starter. My captain spot is light on but I think I have a good all round team with plenty of sub options.

Any pointers or things to watch out for?

I dont get to keep as much attention on this site as I would like and it has moved quite quickly the last few days.

1.  Inglis
2.  Ponga
3.  Whare (DPP CTR/WFB)
4.  Milne
5.  Nofoaluma
6.  Cleeland
7.  Calker (DPP HLF/WFB)
8.  Evans
9.  Lichaa
10. Lodge
11. Arrow
12. Murray
13. Brown

14. Kikorama (DPP HLF/HOK)
15. Papali (DPP 2RF/FRF)
16. Asofa-Solomona (DPP 2RF/FRF)
17. Aubusson (DPP 2RF/ CTR)

18. Cartwright (DPP 2RF/CTR)
19. Laroker
20. Garvey
21. Hiku (DPP CTR/WFB)

Too many mid-rangers???

I have tried to be all about value and DPP heavy on the bench and in the backs. I have the impression I could drop wither Hiku and Whare i place of a bottom price newbie. I am hearing good things about Leusilano from the Eels but that back line is so crowded already. Any tips for bottom priced DPP forwards?

My autofill squad had Crichton, Aubs and Pearce..

1 current, 1 ex, 1 future Rooster.

I thought people might mention the potential for extra tackles, as it crossed my mind, however I'm not convinced extra workload translates to extra defensive points. The influence those around you can have on making a tackle is immense, not only how effective they are in making a tackle, but their decision making and whether they leave you stranded/forced to rush etc. resulting in someone who can be a good defender in the right structure actually missing more tackles.

Just not convinced you don't see the same or worse defensive stats with worse offensive stats to boot.

rhinoceroo wrote:@Archer... Proctor played outside Cronk on Melbourne's go-to side. Anyone playing in that position is going to benefit as shown by Felise last year.

Harris scored well on the Storm's other side, and will be getting through the tackles shadowing SJ this year... where even Bodene scored loads of tries, and Tohu is twice the real life player Bodene is.

Fair point about the halves they run off but i wouldn't discount the effect Smith has on the attacking points his pigs pick up.

rhinoceroo wrote:@Archer... Proctor played outside Cronk on Melbourne's go-to side. Anyone playing in that position is going to benefit as shown by Felise last year.

Harris scored well on the Storm's other side, and will be getting through the tackles shadowing SJ this year... where even Bodene scored loads of tries, and Tohu is twice the real life player Bodene is.

Wouldn't Tohu be on the left edge with Green

Milchcow wrote:
Top 20 most popular players

Cameron Smith 2044
Kalyn Ponga 2003
James Tedesco 1582
Jason Taumalolo 1487
Bryce Cartwright 1389
Jai Arrow 1305
Taane Milne 1229
Matt Lodge 1203
Connor Watson 1140
Lachlan Croker 1082
Peta Hiku 1062
Craig Garvey 911
Johnathan Thurston 876
Greg Inglis 875
Nelson Asofa-Solomona 818
Jesse Bromwich 817
Jarryd Hayne 810
Brock Gray 767
Francis Molo 761
Dane Gagai 754

Wow I’ve got 55% of them

mulvy wrote:

I'd be into that. $50 was mentioned I believe?

SI are you happy to hold the prizepool and do you have a paypal or something that easy enough to pay into globally? Can just only give the league code out when money hits your account.

Maybe a H2H league but we will split the money 75% to the overall points leader and 25% H2H winner? Assuming around an 8 person league. If we get more like 12-16 runners we can do more of a poker payout structure for overall only;

50% Prizepool Winner
25% Runner up
15% Third
10% 4th

Gees Cartwright is popular, they giving points for missed tackles this year? Better get him and Brooks in my team

mulvy wrote:

Also his base stats over the last three years including finals but taking out the three injury reduced times games last year is about 45, 3 more than his price in base stats alone. The odd attacking stats should see him back to 50 imo.

Not to mention he'll be the back up goal kicker which may see some bonus points here and there when Johnson get's his annual injury that hampers his kicking but they still trot him out anyway

Honey Badger wrote:

Wouldn't Tohu be on the left edge with Green

Depends, both Thompson and Hoffman gone so both spots open

Had a crack at a team, be brutal.

Smith (c)
Scott, Lodge
Brown, Murray, Arrow
Thurston, LCroker
JCroker, Milne
Teddy, Ponga, Hiku

Lichaa, Cook, Latu, Cartwright

Kikau, Garvey, Kennar, Isaako

60k left in the tank.

so I have changed my team more times than I can count but these are the issues I have questions over, your opinions would be great.

FRF - Taupau (757, DPP, bye in 17) or woods or even Bromwich and use money elsewear

Halves - Moses/Cronk or Munster/Watson or Thurston/Watson +more money

Bench Hooker - Cook (bye in 17, I have smith) or Lichaa?

Warriors wrote:

Great bench, but not sure about some of your starters. I wouldn't start Hiku personally, Lodge and Evans is a pretty weak FRF, great second row though. Halves are an unknown. So hard to pick a half at the moment.

Has anyone looked more into Chad Townsend next to Matt Moylan, when Moylan went to five eighth in round 13 Cleary's scores shot up by 12 points on average (have excluded all games Cleary scored a try in). Wondering whether Townsend can go from a 35 average to a 45 average if kicking goals and getting more kick metres without Maloney.

Looked at him but don't think he will make enough cash to justify being a keeper. Will be one of those too good to trade out(always other fires to put out) not good enough to like having him in your team

Welshy wrote:

He is usually up in the 60s in terms of average that's 5.5 points higher than any of the FRF scored last year, for a position where some of the high end players have question marks

Vaughan - graham
Graham - now injury prone and and Vaughan
Taupau - priced accordingly
Papalii - Decent option and DPP, priced accordingly
RJames - 2RF switch where he doesn't score as well

Fifita seemed to have lots of scores in the 40's-50's like usual however he didn't have the usual 80-90-100 point game to boost his average. Watching him play last year I think the league has caught on to how to stop him(first man seems to be going low a lot) and he won't have that high ceiling. Still be a consistent gun but not one I'm scared of not starting with.

Player popularity update
Everyone in over 1000 teams

Cameron	Smith	3969
Kalyn	Ponga	3865
James	Tedesco	3125
Bryce	Cartwright	3012
Jason	Taumalolo	2969
Taane	Milne	2780
Jai	Arrow	2613
Matt	Lodge	2458
Peta	Hiku	2455
Lachlan	Croker	2361
Connor	Watson	2305
Craig	Garvey	2038
Johnathan	Thurston	1867
Jesse	Bromwich	1700
Greg	Inglis	1679
Nelson	Asofa-Solomona	1675
Brock	Gray	1530
Jarryd	Hayne	1521
Francis	Molo	1464
Dane	Gagai	1446
Brodie	Croft	1402
Angus	Crichton	1360
Sam	Kasiano	1355
Renouf	Toomaga	1303
Shaun	Johnson	1259
Tom	Trbojevic	1198
Nathan	Cleary	1193
Tom	Hughes	1193
Josh	Chudleigh	1181
Leilani	Latu	1179
Latrell	Mitchell	1153
Payne	Haas	1140
Bill	Cullen	1063
Cooper	Cronk	1059
Matthew	Scott	1055
Viliame	Kikau	1043
Tohu	Harris	1033

Clack Bocks wrote:

Depends, both Thompson and Hoffman gone so both spots open

Where did Thompson go?

Milchcow wrote:Player popularity update
Everyone in over 1000 teams

 

Cameron	Smith	3969
Kalyn	Ponga	3865
James	Tedesco	3125
Bryce	Cartwright	3012
Jason	Taumalolo	2969
Taane	Milne	2780
Jai	Arrow	2613
Matt	Lodge	2458
Peta	Hiku	2455
Lachlan	Croker	2361
Connor	Watson	2305
Craig	Garvey	2038
Johnathan	Thurston	1867
Jesse	Bromwich	1700
Greg	Inglis	1679
Nelson	Asofa-Solomona	1675
Brock	Gray	1530
Jarryd	Hayne	1521
Francis	Molo	1464
Dane	Gagai	1446
Brodie	Croft	1402
Angus	Crichton	1360
Sam	Kasiano	1355
Renouf	Toomaga	1303
Shaun	Johnson	1259
Tom	Trbojevic	1198
Nathan	Cleary	1193
Tom	Hughes	1193
Josh	Chudleigh	1181
Leilani	Latu	1179
Latrell	Mitchell	1153
Payne	Haas	1140
Bill	Cullen	1063
Cooper	Cronk	1059
Matthew	Scott	1055
Viliame	Kikau	1043
Tohu	Harris	1033

Connor Watson is expensive for his popularity. Surprised he is seen as such big value