2018 NRL.com Fantasy thread part 28

Mearcats wrote:Gonna kick things off with a few thoughts regarding our flavour of the week and a few other players.

So, with a guy like JFH (and Arrow for that matter) do we see these guys as season keepers. I'm relatively happy with my team currently but questioning the status of a few guys like JFH, RFM Kapow etc.

When talking about emerging players, what do we expect from them to cement gun/keeper status? And when talking about past guns, for how long do they get to ride the coat tails of past success before we recant their titles?

I think Arrow will definitely be a season keeper, no doubt. Verdict is out on JFH but if he keeps scoring the way he is and Griffin gives him the minutes, then I believe there is no reason why not.

mickspicks wrote:Also what’s the deal with people wanting Katoa again? The Sharks wingers have scored piss poor this season. Maybe Katoa (if he is even picked) will be a spark but he will have to go search for the ball for that to happen.

he is up against egan, ellis, fine and dillon as 212k cows and robinson, chricton, gelling in the 230-40k bracket. 

gives a red dot if you wanna have a free look this week, and he may play 80 mins the rest of the year. in saying that i wont bring him in till he is named 100%

ice_berg86 wrote:I don't see why everybody is so keen on getting Katoa back into their team without him playing a second game. He's not going to make a lot of money unless he scores 50 plus which i can't see happening after watching his first game (however limited it was).

Plus you don't know where he is in the peaking order with Feki and Lee even if the coach has come out and backed him...

Plays 13, 212K, coach obviously rates him. I'd personally wait until he dethrones Lee and Feki though before putting him in.

Griffin to Smith this week or hold til next week? Only have about 10k to work with and I'm worried about Doueihi dropping too much or Griffin only just hitting his BE. What should I do guys?

hymenbustas wrote:Jason Clark to start, Turner on bench

Guaranteed win to the Roosters. Jason Clark is poison. Never, ever bends the line. Gets shoved around like a rag doll. Defensively OK, but no lateral movement. Turner is a spud. Roosters by plenty.

filthridden wrote:

ARU would be right to distance themselves from him and his recent social media posts.

I wouldn't want him at my club.

I think every club would want him. Assuming they can afford him.

ARU should distance themselves from all players personal views. Its not for the ARU to dictate views of its players.

Feel sorry for Folau, if he doesn't say what he says, he is denouncing his faith, something clearly that is important to him. Slamming a player for not holding an inclusive view is the definition of hypocrisy.

Disclaimer: I don't support his views in anyway. Just the right to have view at all.

wolfking wrote:

Plays 13, 212K, coach obviously rates him.  I'd personally wait until he dethrones Lee and Feki though before putting him in.

Might not play 13/at all. I think the interest is more that he has been named before which is slightly better than most other 212k players. Slightly less of a gamble compared to the rest.

wolfking wrote:

I think Arrow will definitely be a season keeper, no doubt.  Verdict is out on JFH but if he keeps scoring the way he is and Griffin gives him the minutes, then I believe there is no reason why not.  

See, this is the exact sort of open discussion I want to create. Why Wolfie? What is it that makes you think Arrow is a season keeper? Off an obviously small sample size so far we cannot realistically say it's because his form warrants it so we must be basing some of our thoughts about this on his play style and what we have seen from him thus far.

Hence my former question, what do we want to see from a player before we start labeling them as guns and keepers?

Rabbit wrote:

Guaranteed win to the Roosters. Jason Clark is poison. Never, ever bends the line. Gets shoved around like a rag doll. Defensively OK, but no lateral movement. Turner is a spud. Roosters by plenty.

Yep. Both Turner and Clark are shite and there is a reason why they haven't been in the team. Good to see the coach can see that, but they will offer nothing and probably won't even put in knowing that they will be out once Surgess and Murray are back. It's all we have too, with Fui and Musgrove being out injured also.

wolfking wrote:

Plays 13, 212K, coach obviously rates him.  I'd personally wait until he dethrones Lee and Feki though before putting him in.

Agreed, but round 13 is 7 weeks away and he won't be making good money until he his second or third game back.

filthridden wrote:

Oh My God, Standard! You can't just ask someone if they're a rectangle!

He’s always been a shapist.

Mearcats wrote:

See, this is the exact sort of open discussion I want to create. Why Wolfie? What is it that makes you think Arrow is a season keeper? Off an obviously small sample size so far we cannot realistically say it's because his form warrants it so we must be basing some of our thoughts about this on his play style and what we have seen from him thus far.

Hence my former question, what do we want to see from a player before we start labeling them as guns and keepers?

Arrow showed a lot of promise right from round 1.  His intent was there and you can tell this guy will just put in and give it all he's got.  The move to lock has sealed the deal.  Able to play big minutes, strong, great defense, can run hard and bend the line and has a potent offload.  You can see that this guy should have replaced Corey Parker, no question IMO.  Why Wayne went McGuire and Arrow had to leave is mind blowing.  Coach can obviously see it's the best for the team to have Arrow in at lock playing big minutes.

Reminds me a lot of the Nathan Brown situation when he emerged into keeper status last year. To determine if they are keepers depends a lot on the coach and minutes IMO as well as the player of course. We can see the potential but if the coach doesn't give them the minutes then hands are tied.

How dare Folou have an opinion based on his entire life’s teachings. How dare he go against the Marxist, fascist left brigade.

I’m with Israel. If you don’t like that......Fuck you.

Need some help if anybody has the time. Somewhat happy with my team apart from current injuries, except my halves are worse than terrible. Is it worth trading in Brown to a DCE or SJ to fix that problem? Otherwise I was thinking I could turn Griffin into Mbye and play Havili in my 17.

McCullough
Arrow TPJ
RFM JFH Griffin
Maloney Croker
Mitchell Kennar
Tedesco Ponga Thompson

Cook
Kikau
Rochow
Lodge

Brown
Murray
Havili
Isaako

danseels1985 wrote:Griffin to Smith this week or hold til next week? Only have about 10k to work with and I'm worried about Doueihi dropping too much or Griffin only just hitting his BE. What should I do guys?

I'm gonna be the arse here mate and state the obvious, being that you should never have traded him out in the first place! I'm sure you are well aware of this tho and you have asked this question a few times over the past pages so I'll say bring him back in to give you some feedback.

At the end of the day, you'll want him in your final 17. The only question you need to ask yourself now is whether you wait until after origin to bring him back in and grab someone like Wallace or Macca etc in the meantime or bring him straight back in now.

Personally, I'd bring him straight back in.

Rabbit wrote:How dare Folou have an opinion based on his entire life’s teachings. How dare he go against the Marxist, fascist left brigade.

I’m with Israel. If you don’t like that......Fuck you.

Holy shit Rabs, I don't think I've ever liked anything you've said more than I like this.

Pookus McFly wrote:Need some help if anybody has the time. Somewhat happy with my team apart from current injuries, except my halves are worse than terrible. Is it worth trading in Brown to a DCE or SJ to fix that problem? Otherwise I was thinking I could turn Griffin into Mbye and play Havili in my 17.

McCullough
Arrow TPJ
RFM JFH Griffin
Maloney Croker
Mitchell Kennar
Tedesco Ponga Thompson

Cook
Kikau
Rochow
Lodge

Brown
Murray
Havili
Isaako

That's almost the same as my team. Change Macca for Smith and Croker for MBye and that's my 17. I'm actually thinking about running Havilli over Lodge anyway. With Brown depends if you want to hold or not. Your team is decent enough to hold. Halves are thin obviously but the injuries don't change that.

Arrows game is everything you want from a Fantasy gun. Runs hard, doesn't miss bulk tackles, goes looking for work, and throws offloads.

I mean, it would be nice if he had wicked boot, kicked goals and 40/20s but you cant have it all.

wolfking wrote:

Arrow showed a lot of promise right from round 1.  His intent was there and you can tell this guy will just put in and give it all he's got.  The move to lock has sealed the deal.  Able to play big minutes, strong, great defense, can run hard and bend the line and has a potent offload.  You can see that this guy should have replaced Corey Parker, no question IMO.  Why Wayne went McGuire and Arrow had to leave is mind blowing.  Coach can obviously see it's the best for the team to have Arrow in at lock playing big minutes.

Reminds me a lot of the Nathan Brown situation when he emerged into keeper status last year.  To determine if they are keepers depends a lot on the coach and minutes IMO as well as the player of course.  We can see the potential but if the coach doesn't give them the minutes then hands are tied.

I like it. I agree actually, I think things like minutes, how a player fits into a team structure, the teams strength as a whole and their dependency upon said player etc all ties into what makes a keeper. I just don't like throwing the big G around willy nilly like we do at times. May reserve that for a bit later on in the season I think.

As for McGuire playing lock... I haven't been a fan of Bennett for a few years now but seeing both Wallace and Arrow at the Titans broke the camels back for me. How in Gods name did they get away? Just short sightedness and stupidity.

Any reason why people aren't talking about Hampton? BE of 0 and he's clearly done enough to retain his place in the side with Coote back.