NRL Fantasy 2018 Thread Part 37

wolfking wrote:Just figured that Kennar and Isaako onwers like myself can get a free look at Isaako if you're stuck on what to do with Kennar.  Just put Kennar starting with Isaako in your EMG's.  If Isaako gets a 50, leave Kennar in and I'm sure you get Isaako's score?  If Isaako gets 20, do the trade to whoever you were looking at before the bunnies play.

This will still work even though Kennar hasn't been named right and is a red dot? It doesn't have to actually be a late withdrawal on game day does it, like they had to be named or some bullshit?

White Lightning wrote:Eels injury report - N. Brown out until round 12. Time to sell.

Was pretty pissed to hear this yesterday (well, fantasy level pissed), but someone (sorry can't recall who) made a good point yesterday in that the games he's already missed are irrelevant. For now its a 3 week injury, which is a tough call on whether to trade or hold.

I'm really torn on whether to hold or jump straight to DCE. DCE sorts out one of my back 7, is a keeper (currently have Maloney and JMK in my playing 13, both of which will probably have to go soon anyway). I am just a little wary of DCE due to Manly's issues. If not DCE, then anyone else up to the value of 835k...

The reality is that I'm playing Sua if I don't get DCE. Talk to me people!

wolfking wrote:

This will still work even though Kennar hasn't been named right and is a red dot?  It doesn't have to actually be a late withdrawal on game day does it, like they had to be named or some bullshit?

Yes Isaako will come in for Kennar.

How is everyone fixed for the byes. Think I'll have 15 technically for Rnd 13, but including Cook, Latrell, Ted so could be as low as 12. That's upgrading Maloney and Havili to Surgess/Tolo type players and probably holding Kikau and JFH.

That would mean having six Rnd 17 players at the start of bye period so making nine trades after Rnd 13 to even get to 15 (14 with Smith) Rnd 17 players.

With Johnson back this week it should help improve Hiku's score again

multiple.scoregasms wrote:

Only issue with Marster is seriously low base stats so relying on attack stats and goals to avoid some stinkers

I know, and if Lolohea comes back he could lose GKing.

L-Jimmy wrote:

I'm wrestling with the same issues. Have gone precisely the other way, and bought in Tolo and Fonua for Dugan and NAS.

There are decent odds I'll flip back before lockout and switch in Rapana and Lane for Dugan and Goosie.

You've outlined the problem well: points now vs points then vs risk!!

Eh. Fortunately its just a game, and not some all-consuming hobby that I check before sleeping and after waking....

For reference (and chime in if you have any ideas!):
Cook
Arrow Fifi
Murray Tolo RFM
RyMatt Maloney
Bird Isaako
Ponga Teddy JMK
JFH TPJ Kikau Havili
Goosie JT CThomp Fonua

Hahaha I don't spend all my spare time checking this thread and constantly reversing my trades either!

You're in a much better position than me with being able to have Tolo and Fifi. Your bench pretty much upgrades itself (Emg upgrades Int) when the time comes. Only worry is cash generation to upgrade your centres, Maloney, and your final WFB. Are you trading in Fifi now? He's a wait and see if you want because he'll only go up $10k this week @ 60 pts

@White Lightning Damn, that Brown news would have been nice a few weeks ago!! haha

@MTB The concern is that the injury was a lot worse than we anticipated and he might not be fighting fit when he gets back. So that's $757k on the bench for three more weeks which could come back and deliver a 30-40

@rhinoceroo I personally am not giving a shit about byes this year. My thinking is half the guys in my team won't be playing on either week, so 10 and 11. I won't compromise my buy low/sell high tactic because someone plays 13. But byes will be the decider between who I trade out of two potentials. I've worked it out that I should get 13-14 on the field without trying too much hahaha I'll be eating my words

my tv broke wrote:

Was pretty pissed to hear this yesterday (well, fantasy level pissed), but someone (sorry can't recall who) made a good point yesterday in that the games he's already missed are irrelevant. For now its a 3 week injury, which is a tough call on whether to trade or hold.

I'm really torn on whether to hold or jump straight to DCE. DCE sorts out one of my back 7, is a keeper (currently have Maloney and JMK in my playing 13, both of which will probably have to go soon anyway). I am just a little wary of DCE due to Manly's issues. If not DCE, then anyone else up to the value of 835k...

The reality is that I'm playing Sua if I don't get DCE. Talk to me people!

DCE can wait another week with his BE. See how they how and if they can bounce back.

my tv broke wrote:

Was pretty pissed to hear this yesterday (well, fantasy level pissed), but someone (sorry can't recall who) made a good point yesterday in that the games he's already missed are irrelevant. For now its a 3 week injury, which is a tough call on whether to trade or hold.

I'm really torn on whether to hold or jump straight to DCE. DCE sorts out one of my back 7, is a keeper (currently have Maloney and JMK in my playing 13, both of which will probably have to go soon anyway). I am just a little wary of DCE due to Manly's issues. If not DCE, then anyone else up to the value of 835k...

The reality is that I'm playing Sua if I don't get DCE. Talk to me people!

You might get away with holding for a week if DCE is your target as he has a b/e of 67 this week so he might be cheaper next week. You could play Maloney & JMK in your halves & with JMK at hooker he should score 40+. I also think Su'a will score 40+ as well so he's a good option to play in your 17.
If you want to bring in anyone else other than a hlf up to 835k I would get Taumalolo. Pity you don't have an extra 5k for Matterson because you could play him in your halves.

White Lightning wrote:If you want to bring in anyone else other than a hlf up to 835k I would get Taumalolo. Pity you don't have an extra 5k for Matterson because you could play him in your halves.

Already got the big fella!

Matterson would of been great, for sure.

Boozecluez wrote:With Johnson back this week it should help improve Hiku's score again

Both SJ & Harris back will improve Hiku's score so play Hiku.

my tv broke wrote:

Already got the big fella!

Matterson would of been great, for sure.

I would definitely go for DCE then but whether you pick him up this week or wait a week for the probable price drop is a gut call. I think both JMK (if plays hooker) & Su'a could both score 40+ this week so there's a good case for deferring the DCE purchase until next week. The good thing re JMK is that he plays the first game so you can base your decision on this.

Rapture_NRL wrote:

Hahaha I don't spend all my spare time checking this thread and constantly reversing my trades either!

You're in a much better position than me with being able to have Tolo and Fifi. Your bench pretty much upgrades itself (Emg upgrades Int) when the time comes. Only worry is cash generation to upgrade your centres, Maloney, and your final WFB. Are you trading in Fifi now? He's a wait and see if you want because he'll only go up $10k this week @ 60 pts

@rhinoceroo I personally am not giving a shit about byes this year. My thinking is half the guys in my team won't be playing on either week, so 10 and 11. I won't compromise my buy low/sell high tactic because someone plays 13. But byes will be the decider between who I trade out of two potentials. I've worked it out that I should get 13-14 on the field without trying too much hahaha I'll be eating my words

Full agreement on the team and byes - I'm not keen on making luxury trades between R13 and R17 when I need to maximise cash generation for centres/WFB/HLF. And I bought in Fifi in R5@782. Tolo is the one I'd bring in now, before he (hopefully!) goes back to a 60 point player.

Came up with a brief analysis of potential centers to replace Kennar. Intentionally missed Aubbs cause its Aubbs. Let me know if im missing something

Jesse Ramien ($457k)
- Good value, low BE 7
- Decent base stats, avg 15 tackles/game and a couple of TBs
- Job security safe for now. Katoa inclusion may cause reshuffle.

Latrell Mitchell ($615k)
- Peaked, 2nd best avg. center atm.
- DPP
- Goal kicker
- Been getting tries which has inflated his average. Average 5 TB’s/game

Euan Aitken ($618k)
- Best avg center and most expensive
- The 3 games where he didn’t have tries averages to 32 points

Esan Marsters ($574k)
- Last 3 game avg 45 without a try
- DPP
- Goal kicker
- Some money left to be made with a BE of 25

Dylan Walker ($399k)
- Cheapest out of the 4
- Playing at 5/8
- Averaged 37 (2016) when playing at halves
- Higher ceiling due to more opportunities for TA and tackles

I know with Dugan going down and Hiku, Isaako and Kennar all peaked we are throwing CTRs around but can someone explain the Ramien trade to me?

He's at $457k currently. (priced at a 30 ish average)

The best centres are around 600k so we are effectively banking on him becoming a keeper or to make enough cash for the trade (which he'd need to be a keeper to get)?

I must admit I haven't seen the lad a lot but:

- He makes around 15 tackles and 100m per game. Base of 25.
- Misses just under two tackles a game and makes slightly over 1 error. New base of 19.
- Attacking stats aren't huge in his first 3 games but have been great in the last two games. Probably too soon to know which is the anomaly.
- Is his spot secure? Know with Dugan from CTR to FB it opened a spot but can a helpful Sharks supporter tell me if he's got that CTR spot secured?

Just not seeing where all the love for the guy is coming from. I'd personally rather trust injury reports and play Capewell @ 338k as a cheap CTR for 3 weeks, 1 dud week (Lewis/Gallen returns) and 1 origin week. He's cheaper, has a better floor short term at least and is available at CTR. I'm waiting for team confirmation before pulling the trigger on this though.

At least with Marsters he has the goalkicking providing a solid floor (for now with Lolohea out) and while he might only make 10 tackles and run for 120m the attacking stats on the guy are huge (multiple TBs (3/game and Offloads 3/game). He does have more MTs and Errors in him too but I can see a boom bust CTR potential with the guy and his bust games should be okay while he's kicking goals.

I know Marsters isn't cheap and other keeper possibilities like Croker, Cotric, Fergo, Roberts, Gagai, Aitken and Latrell may break your bank but I'd look at any of them as well as cheaper guys like Aubbs, Bird, C.Scott, D.Walker, Capewell and even keeping Isaako/Hiku over trading Ramien in. Just keep seeing his name this week and wondering what I'm missing (other than two good CTR scores)? Just feels like its too late to take a punt on him.

TLDR: Got multiple guys I'd rather at CTR over Ramien. Why the love?

multiple.scoregasms wrote:

Only issue with Marster is seriously low base stats so relying on attack stats and goals to avoid some stinkers

I think Tigers are set for a big downslide. Meaning Marsters stats will go with them too. They have Warriors, Cows, Panthers, Bulldogs and Roosters. 3 maybe 4 of those games will be very tough. If they can string a couple losses together (well they already have but a couple more) heads will go down, confidence will be gone. I think they will be 3L and 2W next 5 weeks.

On the Storm website they are saying Curtis Scott is a possible starter this week but probably will wait until next week. Thinking I may take the risk and run with one centre this weekend and save a trade to cover him for the sake of one round...I love my centre pairing of Scott and Cotric and I can merge their names Hollywood style into SCOTRIC

Is anyone looking at Tyrone Phillips as a cashout? Will he hold his spot with no Mansour and Edwards?