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    2018 NRL.com Fantasy Thread Part 40

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    Post by Milchcow Wed May 09, 2018 2:53 pm

    Just some notes on trade plans for the rest of the year.
    Both in case anyone finds it useful, and because writing down my thoughts helps me with my planning


    Firstly, a look at what my final team should look at

    Positions
    1-18 - best scoring players I can afford.
    Ideally I will own every player in the game that averages 60+ (currently Damien Cook is the only player with more than 1 game and an average of 60+, but I expect a few more might be able to average 60+ for the 2nd hald of the season))
    Everyone else in the team should be averaging 50+ (WFB and CTR might slip a little)

    Position 19
    WFB/CTR cover. It is likely that I will not have any WFB or CTR in my 14-18, so need someone here to cover injury/suspension for my starting backs.
    If funds allow will get a big gun in here, but compromise is OK

    Position 20
    Confirmed NPR for loopholing, preferably someone who plays late in the round a lot.

    Position 21
    Undetermined, but probably someone who was bought in as a $212k player for cash purposes.
    Scoring player is OK if one is available, but a 2nd NPR for looping is also acceptable.


    The latest this team should be assembled is Round 18.
    I think with this year’s bye schedule, if you can assemble your final team by round 13 the extra points from having top scorers will make up for lost points from bye rounds.
    Unless you have been able to save plenty of trades for short term bye players (I have not done this)

    Once final team is assembled you probably want 4-6 trades.
    Only need to trade for injury/suspension. May want to have a trade or 2 to fix mistakes
    (Eg for WFB you might bring in RTS over TTrbo given current fortunes. If Manly come good and Warriors start collapsing it may become apparent TTRbo is the better option, and you might want a trade available to make the switch)


    Now, my team and trade plans


    Cook
    Fifita
    Kikau
    RFM
    Murray
    JFH
    Maloney
    Matterson
    Hiku
    Inglis
    Tedesco
    Ponga
    Thompson

    Smith
    Rein
    Martin
    Havili

    Arrow
    Dugan
    Sorenson
    Katoa

    18 trades remaining
    $610k in the bank


    Cook, Fifita, Smith, Matterson, Tedesco, Ponga will stay in my team all season if fit
    Arrow and Dugan I want to keep in my team but fitness is a more immediate concern than the guys above.
    Kikau, RFM, Murray, JFH are all fringe guys who I think will be traded out but may end up staying. Ideally they'll get upgraded but have to prepare that 1 or more of them will stay due to trade/money issues

    Katoa may stay al year for looping (and score if he ever makes the team) At this point not sure I have the spare trades to bring in a new cashie and then trade them out again

    Hiku, Inglis, Rein, Maloney, Havili, Sorenson, Thompson, Martin will all go at some point.

    Problem being, if I have Katoa as loop spot, and want a reasonable scoring 18th/19th man, then I only have space to cash out 1 or 2 of my 8 named tradeout targets.
    All the others will be upgrades.
    Some will make enough money that an upgrade won't cost much money, and I have a reasonable bank at the moment, but in general, finding cash to upgrade everyone to an ideal final team will be problematic

    But in reality it means I'll have to do one or both of the following.
    a) Take a punt on another cash cow to try and generate funds.
    b) Compromise on final team by picking a cheaper player and hope they pick up their scoring. Eg someone like Gallen/Mannering over Taumalolo/JTrbo and hoping they get back to their best scoring.
    A lot riskier, but sometimes you have to go with what you can afford. Pick Gallen over JTrbo and RTS over JTrbo could save me $200k+. If I'm lucky some gun might cop a 0 at some point to drop their price enough t make them affordable
    Or a mid-season buy might appear giving guns cores at a discount (Crichton, Cleary, Dylan Edwards of previous years)


    If I leave 4 trades for final team tinkering, I have 14 left to get my squad together
    8 guys are definite trade outs, which leaves me with up to 6 trades to generate enough cash to upgrade them.
    I probably want to spend some of those 6 trades on guys like RFM/Murray but its now looking very tight on spending trades.
    Any cash cow I bring has to make a tonne of money or it just isn't worth it, and I think I have room for 1, maybe 2 goes at finding cash cow from this point)


    So its all about timing the trade outs for Maloney/Rein/Havili to do so at the time when they are at maximum value, and the guy I want is at minimum value
    And I will have to compromise on some of the trade-ins by getting a cheaper guy and hoping he improves for the run home rather than just getting a big guy in and then running out of trades/cash for later upgrades.


    Most of you should have more than 18 trades left, and possibly more of your final 17 already in place, so you'll be in a better position than me and can afford to take a couple more risks
    And do bye planning 0 which I am now committed to ignoring and hoping for the best.
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    Post by my tv broke Wed May 09, 2018 2:55 pm

    Barry Toohey is of the belief that Lamb will take goal kicking duties..
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    Post by BroncHose Wed May 09, 2018 2:57 pm

    Pookus McFly wrote:Have Rein owners got a backup option if Peats is a surprise inclusion this week?
    I am thinking I might bench him for Havili if out, but that would mean I need to play Murray off the bench. Would really love for him to get 80 mins and squeeze one more game out so I can bench Murray instead thoug. Either way it looks like Peats will be back next week at the latest and get becomes a sell.
    Man, how good is your team - I have to play all three of rein, havilli and Murray!!
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    Post by Fortitude Wed May 09, 2018 3:10 pm

    Are there any players we are confident will only be used during origin as cover.

    For example (this may not necessarily be the case)

    Katoa to play in place of Dugan.

    As Milch pointed out, its getting to the point where you wont be able to bring in cashies to then trade them out again. So im looking for 212-230k players who will play as a cover for origin, but that's about it.
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    Post by Guest Wed May 09, 2018 3:13 pm

    my tv broke wrote:Barry Toohey is of the belief that Lamb will take goal kicking duties..
    Slightly interested..
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    Post by Guest Wed May 09, 2018 3:16 pm

    Fortitude wrote:Only MF would celebrate his 5000 post, discussing the finer details of an Avatar bet.


    lol! lol!
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    Post by StormTrooper96 Wed May 09, 2018 3:18 pm

    SOME INSIDER INFO -

    My mates dad is a coach and pretty big part of the Brothers Footy Club here in TSV and he is in a facebook group with Michael Parker-Walsh (Blackhawks) and a few of those boys and they are all mates with Morgo and Feldty etc. and apparently they have some inside info on the Bolton drama. (THIS IS ALL ON CAMERA APPARENTLY) Bolton and a few of the boys were at the bar enjoying a beer and there was a 47 yr old woman hanging around like a bad smell trying to get in with all the boys. Bolts got up out of his chair to go to the bar and grab a drink. The woman has sat in his chair. Bolts came back and told the woman to F*** off and just let them enjoy their beer to which she ignored so Bolton has grabbed the stool off her, also grazing her genitals by doing so. Hence, 47yr old claiming she was assaulted by Bolton. Not sure on 100% facts but this is coming from a few boys who are all good mates with Morgo, Feldty etc.
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    Post by wolfking Wed May 09, 2018 3:22 pm

    Man not that confident now playing Rein, Griffin and Havilli.

    Might downgrade Rein instead of Soro to Martin and play him instead and upgrade Havilli to Fifita.
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    Post by StormTrooper96 Wed May 09, 2018 3:33 pm

    Kikau was not shy highlighting the fact Newcastle's edge defence were in for a night of targeting following a struggling against the Rabbitohs.
    Captain Kikau?
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    Post by Fortitude Wed May 09, 2018 3:43 pm

    StormTrooper96 wrote:SOME INSIDER INFO -

    My mates dad is a coach and pretty big part of the Brothers Footy Club here in TSV and he is in a facebook group with Michael Parker-Walsh (Blackhawks) and a few of those boys and they are all mates with Morgo and Feldty etc. and apparently they have some inside info on the Bolton drama. (THIS IS ALL ON CAMERA APPARENTLY) Bolton and a few of the boys were at the bar enjoying a beer and there was a 47 yr old woman hanging around like a bad smell trying to get in with all the boys. Bolts got up out of his chair to go to the bar and grab a drink. The woman has sat in his chair. Bolts came back and told the woman to F*** off and just let them enjoy their beer to which she ignored so Bolton has grabbed the stool off her, also grazing her genitals by doing so. Hence, 47yr old claiming she was assaulted by Bolton. Not sure on 100% facts but this is coming from a few boys who are all good mates with Morgo, Feldty etc.

    Reminds me of when Joel Thompson king hit his mrs, hospitalising her for a few days, but then said he aggressively opened his flip phone in an argument, slipped and knocked her.

    And was it FPN who was "playing with his dog in his front yard" when we did a season ender to his knee. When he was spotted out blind that night.
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    Post by sajjos Wed May 09, 2018 3:44 pm

    what to do with this lot

    I have few ideas but happy to get your opinions

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    Post by StormTrooper96 Wed May 09, 2018 3:46 pm

    Taumalolo to crack 100 and bring Taupau down from his perch this week, TPJ to crack 70
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    Post by Rapture_NRL Wed May 09, 2018 4:03 pm

    Thanks @Milchcow. Your team planning post has helped focused my decision making
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    Post by Pookus McFly Wed May 09, 2018 4:04 pm

    BroncHose wrote:
    Man, how good is your team - I have to play all three of rein, havilli and Murray!!

    Probably not that different from yours really, my spiel says that I have to play two of those three players. It just depends where you have spread your money. If it makes you feel better, I still have Isaako starting centre alien
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    Post by mattnz Wed May 09, 2018 4:06 pm

    my tv broke wrote:

    Seems unlikely though. Why the hell Pay keeps playing Holland as a hooker for the last 15 mins of each game..

    Regardless, I'm hopeful JMK has a better game fantasy wise this week. I'd be happy with anything over 35, I think its realistic chance.

    If its a close game wants his best kicker on the field at the end of it
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    Post by Liverpool_Bulldog Wed May 09, 2018 4:07 pm

    Milchcow wrote:Just some notes on trade plans for the rest of the year.
    Both in case anyone finds it useful, and because writing down my thoughts helps me with my planning


    Firstly, a look at what my final team should look at

    Positions
    1-18 - best scoring players I can afford.
    Ideally I will own every player in the game that averages 60+ (currently Damien Cook is the only player with more than 1 game and an average of 60+, but I expect a few more might be able to average 60+ for the 2nd hald of the season))
    Everyone else in the team should be averaging 50+ (WFB and CTR might slip a little)

    Position 19
    WFB/CTR cover. It is likely that I will not have any WFB or CTR in my 14-18, so need someone here to cover injury/suspension for my starting backs.
    If funds allow will get a big gun in here, but compromise is OK

    Position 20
    Confirmed NPR for loopholing, preferably someone who plays late in the round a lot.

    Position 21
    Undetermined, but probably someone who was bought in as a $212k player for cash purposes.
    Scoring player is OK if one is available, but a 2nd NPR for looping is also acceptable.


    The latest this team should be assembled is Round 18.
    I think with this year’s bye schedule, if you can assemble your final team by round 13 the extra points from having top scorers will make up for lost points from bye rounds.
    Unless you have been able to save plenty of trades for short term bye players (I have not done this)

    Once final team is assembled you probably want 4-6 trades.
    Only need to trade for injury/suspension. May want to have a trade or 2 to fix mistakes
    (Eg for WFB you might bring in RTS over TTrbo given current fortunes. If Manly come good and Warriors start collapsing it may become apparent TTRbo is the better option, and you might want a trade available to make the switch)


    Now, my team and trade plans


    Cook
    Fifita
    Kikau
    RFM
    Murray
    JFH
    Maloney
    Matterson
    Hiku
    Inglis
    Tedesco
    Ponga
    Thompson

    Smith
    Rein
    Martin
    Havili

    Arrow
    Dugan
    Sorenson
    Katoa

    18 trades remaining
    $610k in the bank


    Cook, Fifita, Smith, Matterson, Tedesco, Ponga will stay in my team all season if fit
    Arrow and Dugan I want to keep in my team but fitness is a more immediate concern than the guys above.
    Kikau, RFM, Murray, JFH are all fringe guys who I think will be traded out but may end up staying. Ideally they'll get upgraded but have to prepare that 1 or more of them will stay due to trade/money issues

    Katoa may stay al year for looping (and score if he ever makes the team) At this point not sure I have the spare trades to bring in a new cashie and then trade them out again

    Hiku, Inglis, Rein, Maloney, Havili, Sorenson, Thompson, Martin will all go at some point.

    Problem being, if I have Katoa as loop spot, and want a reasonable scoring 18th/19th man, then I only have space to cash out 1 or 2 of my 8 named tradeout targets.
    All the others will be upgrades.
    Some will make enough money that an upgrade won't cost much money, and I have a reasonable bank at the moment, but in general, finding cash to upgrade everyone to an ideal final team will be problematic

    But in reality it means I'll have to do one or both of the following.
    a) Take a punt on another cash cow to try and generate funds.
    b) Compromise on final team by picking a cheaper player and hope they pick up their scoring. Eg someone like Gallen/Mannering over Taumalolo/JTrbo and hoping they get back to their best scoring.
    A lot riskier, but sometimes you have to go with what you can afford. Pick Gallen over JTrbo and RTS over JTrbo could save me $200k+. If I'm lucky some gun might cop a 0 at some point to drop their price enough t make them affordable
    Or a mid-season buy might appear giving guns cores at a discount (Crichton, Cleary, Dylan Edwards of previous years)


    If I leave 4 trades for final team tinkering, I have 14 left to get my squad together
    8 guys are definite trade outs, which leaves me with up to 6 trades to generate enough cash to upgrade them.
    I probably want to spend some of those 6 trades on guys like RFM/Murray but its now looking very tight on spending trades.
    Any cash cow I bring has to make a tonne of money or it just isn't worth it, and I think I have room for 1, maybe 2 goes at finding cash cow from this point)


    So its all about timing the trade outs for Maloney/Rein/Havili to do so at the time when they are at maximum value, and the guy I want is at minimum value
    And I will have to compromise on some of the trade-ins by getting a cheaper guy and hoping he improves for the run home rather than just getting a big guy in and then running out of trades/cash for later upgrades.


    Most of you should have more than 18 trades left, and possibly more of your final 17 already in place, so you'll be in a better position than me and can afford to take a couple more risks
    And do bye planning 0 which I am now committed to ignoring and hoping for the best.

    Great post Milchy
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    Post by Pain Wed May 09, 2018 4:10 pm

    danseels1985 wrote:Finalised my trades,going Arrow to Tolo and Cogger to Martin.
    18 trades left 0k bank

    Cook
    Fifita TPJ
    Tolo Kikau RFM
    Matterson DCE
    Mitchell Isaako
    Tedesco Ponga Mbye

    Smith
    Murray
    JFH
    Sua

    Martin
    Lane
    JMK
    Gosiewski

    If anyone has the time can they please cast an eye over my team and offer me any advice you may have? Really stuck as to what my next move should be(apart from trying to save trades)

    Our teams are starting to look very similar. I have ARey instead of DCE and Inglis instead of Isaako in the 17.

    Next move probably will depend on injury or changes in form.
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    Post by bluetige Wed May 09, 2018 4:13 pm

    Kikau almost injured


    The Panthers could ill-afford any more setbacks in an injury-crisis period that includes more than eight regular first grade players missing.

    There were also fears Villiame Kikau was playing on with a broken hand after being heavily strapped at training, but the Fijian prodigy received good news and trained strongly.

    "They thought it was a broken bone when I got an X-ray but it came back all clear," Kikau told NRL.com.

    "It's not that bad, it feels more like nerve pain but should be alright. I'm good to go, I'll be sweet. I've got some padding in there to cover it up."

    Kikau was not shy highlighting the fact Newcastle's edge defence were in for a night of targeting following a struggling against the Rabbitohs.
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    Post by Liverpool_Bulldog Wed May 09, 2018 4:24 pm

    At what point does your rank really start to matter?
    If you are top 100 after the byes are you in with a shot?

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