Wests Tigers 2016 Thread

UFO's, aliens and who shot JFK. Those things are unknown. Pretty sure it's not the players that make JT a shit coach.

Your Name wrote:UFO's, aliens and who shot JFK. Those things are unknown. Pretty sure it's not the players that make JT a shit coach.

Ya reckon mate?

I think its a mix of having shit cattle and being a shit coach.
I mean, As a head coach he was an epic failure at souths. He was an epic failure at Parra.

He had success as an assistant at the Roosters.

His time as head coach at the Tigers has been an epic failure so far.

Admittedly, he has never had a top line team to control as head coach but still - he tends to come in, have minimal success, rub players the wrong way, then is sacked. Top line teams dont want him.

Your Name wrote:Liddle re-signed.

So will Ballin come back or
is Halatau getting a 1 year extension.
Or is Robbie staying ?

The board has already said JT is safe for 17. I'm going with option A or B

I know jack but I'll guess A and C

The Tigers remind me of a poor man's Warriors. On their day they can beat anyone, and on their day they can lose to anyone, except they aren't "on" as often as the Warriors, and are "off" more often than the Warriors. Which is saying something.

Dip wrote:The Tigers remind me of a poor man's Warriors. On their day they can beat anyone, and on their day they can lose to anyone, except they aren't "on" as often as the Warriors, and are "off" more often than the Warriors. Which is saying something.

I think a more accurate description would be "on paper the Warriors are the rich man's tigers"

I"m not sure who's being insulted here exactly, but it's not pretty.

dasherhalo wrote:I"m not sure who's being insulted here exactly, but it's not pretty.

Just like Robbie Farahs nose then innit.

Wests Tigers in secret talks about Robbie Farah-Zak Hardaker player swap

Wests Tigers have held secret talks with Leeds about the prospect of a player swap involving Robbie Farah and reigning Man of Steel Zak Hardaker.

Fairfax Media can reveal the Tigers, Leeds and Farah's management have been in discussions about a trade that could potentially bring closure to the long-running impasse between Farah and coach Jason Taylor.

Farah, in camp with the NSW squad in Coffs Harbour, is contracted to the Tigers for 2017 and stands to earn the best part of $1 million in what is a heavily back-ended deal. The 32-year-old is well within his rights to see it out, but it is becoming increasingly clear that it will result in another year of tension at the club should Taylor also see out the final year of his contract.

While Blues coach Laurie Daley considers Farah the best hooker in the state, the veteran dummy half can't crack it for a starting spot at the Tigers.

Leeds have been eagerly pursuing a marquee rake and Farah tops their wish list, although out-of-favour Panther James Segeyaro and off-contract Dragon Mitch Rein have also been approached.

Hardaker, meanwhile, is also under contract, but the Rhinos are prepared to release him to pursue his NRL dream if an Australian club is prepared to foot a £300,000 ($582,554) transfer fee.

The Tigers and Leeds have been in discussions about a Farah-Hardaker player swap, but the move is reliant on Farah walking away from the NRL a season early.

The Rhinos are one of the Super League's heavyweight clubs, winning the treble last season under coach Brian McDermott. However, they have endured a nightmare title defence in 2016, are sitting in last spot and face the prospect of relegation.

Unless performances improve immediately, it's unlikely the Rhinos will be a palatable option for Farah, given he would also be effectively giving up his beloved Origin jersey in making the move.

The Tigers have little room in their salary cap for next year and their best chance of recruiting a big-name such as Hardaker is by getting Farah off the books. But after more than a year of speculation about his future, reignited by Taylor's preference to start Dene Halatau at hooker, Farah may consider a fresh start.

Hardaker's transfer fee may scare off some NRL clubs, with most believing the Warriors didn't get bang for their buck from fellow English fullback Sam Tomkins after shelling out a record £700,000 ($1.35 million) for his release from Wigan.

However, Hardaker's manager, Craig Harrison, of the Show Me the Money UK agency, is hopeful his client will fulfil his ambition if Leeds and Australian clubs come to the negotiating table.

"There's more than one way to do a deal at that level," Harrison told Fairfax Media.

"There are different ways to do a deal, there's also player exchanges. I'm sure Leeds are looking for players in different areas, so that could be of interest. It could be that 'I've got this player'.

"You could look defer payments, take a bit less on the first year and put that into a pot as part of a fee.

"If you get around the table, I'm confident and Leeds are confident it could work for other clubs. If you look at it as 300 [pounds], yes, I'm sure it will have an effect. The guys at your end are more experienced at this. There's always a deal."

Harrison likened Hardaker to St George Illawarra star Josh Dugan in playing style and because of his ability to play at fullback and centre.

"Zach's biggest asset, without a doubt, is defence, he's massive on defence," Harrison said.

The Tigers, who have a superior winning record without Farah in recent times, have a proud history of attracting the best of British. Garry Schofield, Ellery Hanley and Gareth Ellis have all starred in the black, white and gold after making their names in England.

Unlike that trio, Hardaker has courted controversy during a colourful career. The England international was stood down from the Rugby League World Cup squad in 2013 for a breach of team discipline, forced to publicly apologise for directing a homophobic slur at Michael Monaghan during a club match and was disciplined over an alleged assault of a 22-year-old student in an off-field incident that also created headlines.

Harrison believes the Featherstone product has learnt from those experiences and won't bring any baggage to Australia.

"If you meet Zak and look into his eyes, he's definitely a character," Harrison said.

"Zak was playing semi-professional rugby when I got him at 17. So Zak suddenly came into the first team at 18. He used to play a game of rugby and have six or seven pints on the drink.

"That's how he came to Leeds and people would say, 'my God!' But Zak used to work while playing rugby, he didn't have the same grounding as others coming through at Leeds.

"You've got to be a character to make it over there."

http://www.smh.com.au/rugby-league/league-news/wests-tigers-in-secret-talks-about-robbie-farahzak-hardaker-player-swap-20160618-gpmafk.html

This sounds good providing he can play Centre and kick goals, but he is predominantly a fullback and we have super Ted so is he really needed or is he another Ballin type purchase?

Yeah, or unless they plan on playing him on the wing.

JT finally as the team onside and turned against Farah

http://www.foxsports.com.au/video/league/state-of-origin/woods-elbow-kos-farah!530443

Robbie could stub his little toe on a dining table and that would be enough of an excuse for JT to omit him.

I'm no doc but it seems to me JT jumped at the decision to omit Robbie way before he needed to. Whether Robbie passes the HIA test or not, ruling him out this early can easily be seen as further indication JT doesn't like Farah. Why not rule him out after a HIA before the game.

Also Halatau is under an injury cloud, so if he is ruled out who will play Hooker, ET?

bluetige wrote:Robbie could stub his little toe on a dining table and that would be enough of an excuse for JT to omit him.

I'm no doc but it seems to me JT jumped at the decision to omit Robbie way before he needed to. Whether Robbie passes the HIA test or not, ruling him out this early can easily be seen as further indication JT doesn't like Farah. Why not rule him out after a HIA before the game.

Also Halatau is under an injury cloud, so if he is ruled out who will play Hooker, ET?

Do we need more proof?

Nah, but if I were Robbie, I would make sure I took any bandaids I have on, off before I went to training in the future.

Final draw released


Round 16: vs. Storm at AAMI Park (A) — Sunday, June 26 at 4:00pm (NINE, FOX)

Round 17: vs. Panthers at ANZ Stadium (H) — Saturday, July 2 at 5:30pm (FOX)

Round 18: vs. Bulldogs at ANZ Stadium (A) — Saturday, July 9 at 7:30pm (FOX)

Round 19: BYE

Round 20: vs. Dragons at ANZ Stadium (A) — Sunday, July 24 at 4:00pm (NINE, FOX)

Round 21: vs. Eels at ANZ Stadium (A) — Saturday, July 30 at 5:30pm (NINE, FOX)

Round 22: vs. Cowboys at Leichhardt Oval (H) — Sunday, August 7 at 4:00pm (NINE, FOX)

Round 23: vs. Titans at Campbelltown Stadium (H) — Saturday, August 13 at 3:00pm (FOX)

Round 24: vs. Panthers at Pepper Stadium (A) — Friday, August 19 at 7:50pm (NINE, FOX)

Round 25: vs. Warriors at Mt. Smart Stadium (A) — Sunday, August 28 at 2:00pm (FOX)

Round 26: vs. Raiders at Leichhardt Oval (H) — Sunday, September 4 at 2:00pm (FOX)

Great win by the Tiger lads yesterday against a huge flow of possession and penalty count to the Panthers. Their defense came together, they looked keen and wanted to work for each other, Naqaima still has issues with rushing out of the line though. Tedesco for NSW fullback,

I'm not sure the defense was that good.  There was some decent scramble, but we still conceded a heap of tries, and could have conceded more but Penrith bombed a couple.

Was quite pleased with the attack though. Best we've looked in ages in terms of actually hitting ball runners running angles that look like they might actually break the line. Take out the first 20 minutes and was quite pleasing to watch for the most part.

If that was an origin selection trial in any way, shape or form, Tedesco just confirmed his spot. Completely outplayed Moylan.

We're going to go from the bottom half outside the 8 to the top half outside the 8. Is that a pass mark for a coach after 2 years ?

I think any sort of improvement would be a pass mark from year to year.

Pieman wrote:I think any sort of improvement would be a pass mark from year to year.

Less than a grand final win is considered a failure for the Broncos.



I agree.

Your Name wrote:

Less than a grand final win is considered a failure for the Broncos.



I agree.

Nice try. Cowboys have kept the exact same squad that won the GF. They are the favorites, not the Broncos who have suffered a fair few injuries this year.