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    Post by Loomer Tue Mar 19, 2019 9:34 am

    my tv broke wrote:

    Yeah I think I'll still play Brown. Dont see Keighran picking up points so easily this week. I'm not terribly confident in eiether of them getting much more than 30.

    I am considering trading Edwards to Morgan so I don't have to play either of Keighran/Brown, but it means I'd have to play Ravalawa. Rava potentially matches the cheap half anyway. Unfortunately I didn't see the Dragons game so I don't really know what to expect from Rava, will he maintain a decent amount of TB's? Afterall, its only been one game.

    Keighran 32pts from tackles, metres, and kick metres
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    Post by GreenMachine Tue Mar 19, 2019 9:34 am

    VERTiiGO wrote:Bateman is at such an awkward price.... i want him bad but literally cant do it without trading out Mahoney and Holland... so gonna go with

    Garrick>Lawrie
    Kahu>Staggs/Host/Mikaele??
    Would just so Garrick to Lawrie unless you need the downgrade funds?

    If so you don’t really need Host or Mikaele if you have Lawrie but prefer Mikaele as a backup FRF prospect of those.

    Staggs is dependent on jimmy the Jets fitness. Even though he might be too short-term and surprised he is as high owned as he is. Let’s see TLT
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    Post by Guest Tue Mar 19, 2019 9:37 am

    I have Kearey as a POD.  Didnt expect a great score vs bunnies.
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    Post by Rapture_NRL Tue Mar 19, 2019 9:37 am

    wolfking wrote:

    Thanks mate, considering I'm just inside the top 14000 after round 1..........I'm not holding my breath this year hahaha.  Probably why I might as well go with it.  Yes, there's nothing worse on being persuaded (not by fault by anyone) and talking yourself out of a pick and watch them go well and watch the player you talked yourself into go shit.  Overthinking is a fucking bitch too that brings things unstuck sometimes.  I don't think I'll worry too much with ranking and will probably have more fun going with the players I think and try and enjoy the game more instead of agonize over it.  That's why someone like Holland, I'm really keeping the faith with and gonna ride him strong.  

    Yeah agreed. Sometimes the opinions sway you too much aye. I think the real value is in the analyses like the one by DTTragic on Lawrie vs Host where you kind of can gauge the likely stats of players rather than what one of us is feeling.

    In saying that, my gut failed me by having Radley which meant I couldn't have Fifita Laughing fml
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    Post by my tv broke Tue Mar 19, 2019 9:38 am

    Loomer wrote:

    Keighran 32pts from tackles, metres, and kick metres

    Yep, that's about what I expect, and not much more.
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    Post by Milchcow Tue Mar 19, 2019 9:42 am

    Holland is a player priced at 29 who we think might average 40-45

    Bateman is a player priced at 41 who looks like he could average 50-55

    If Holland fires from this week (entirely possible) then he could end up keeping the price difference between him and Bateman fairly constant. So waiting until you have the cash might work, but you will likely be forgoing points whilst you wait. 10 extra points a week is not to be sneezed at.


    If you think Bateman will average less than 50 and/or Holland will get more than 45, you should hold off.
    If you have to downgrade too much elsewhere to get the cash for Holland -> Bateman, then hold off.


    If you have Brown/Radley/Twal/Ofa I would trade them to Bateman, but that is mostly because I ended up deciding that none of those players were prime initial options.

    Some specific options for getting Bateman in might be a bit crazy, but it is not trade rage to try and bring in what looks to be the best option in a difficult position whilst he is the cheapest he will be for the rest of the season.
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    Post by Liverpool_Bulldog Tue Mar 19, 2019 9:42 am

    Radley > Lawrie
    Sivo > Bird

    If Sele isn't named to start/bench I'll put him in instead of Sivo.

    Thoughts? Or just give Radley about her chance and sit tight.
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    Post by VERTiiGO Tue Mar 19, 2019 9:44 am

    Lawrie or Bird?
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    Post by Milchcow Tue Mar 19, 2019 9:44 am


    I think the Tigers will be better defensively than the Dogs, so thinking of Brown this week.

    If Sele's arm isn't broken but he doesn't play, then I think the first loop of the year will come into play
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    Post by Krump Tue Mar 19, 2019 9:45 am

    CubanMafiaSandSlugs wrote:I wouldn't be surprised to see Meaney come in at fullback for Dogs and Hoppa move back to centre to firm things up a bit. Montoya was awful and caught out numerous times, but admittedly so was Holland. I think 3 out of his 5 missed tackles was RTS shimmying and leaving him in his dust, to set up a try!
    Holland is a definite hold though. And maybe RTS score was overstated due to the ease in which he scored his points.

    I'm not surprised to see the various ludicrous annual pre-round-2 trades being thrown around as people jostle and knee-jerk after 1 round and not much context. Re-shuffling entire team and sacrificing guns to bring in relatively unknown players who've hit a good score.  

    There are a couple of obvious trade ins and outs. But aside that, I think we all need to remember it's round 1 where almost every game was played in the pouring rain. One score isn't enough to make season long decisions off. We need at least 3-4 weeks to see how things pan out.

    In saying that, it's vitally important to make quick cash early on to progress your team towards 18/19 guns as quickly as possible ready for the run in. So there is a balance which needs to be met.

    Anyway, my two bobs.

    Crazy trade out suggestions I've seen IMO:  Edwards, Arrow, Taupau, Cherry Evans, Johnson, Tedesco, Burns, Lane, Holland.

    Breathe everyone. It's round 1.
    Well said mate. Take a deep breath and think about how long the season is folks.
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    Post by wolfking Tue Mar 19, 2019 9:46 am

    Rapture_NRL wrote:

    Me neither Wolfie. Only cracked sub 1000 once lol who am I to give advice Laughing

    I like those trades. I have Sivo for your Garrick, but I'll probably keep Radley for now. Bateman is a solid option and if I wasn't going for cows I'd bring him in too.


    Just on Lawrie v Host, Lawrie just needs the minutes (1PPM). I think for the next few weeks he'll get  (40ish). I read Friz said he'll be out up to 4 weeks, and Sims isn't back till next game, obviously JDB out. I think he'll eke out $150k at least until Frizell comes back. *Disclaimer: I need to play Lawrie in my 17*

    Thanks mate, maybe this is our year. cheer

    Yeah, If had to downgrade someone else for Bateman, I wouldn't be doing it, but I have the cash to get a Lawrie and Bateman for a dud cow and Radley then it's a no brainer for me. If Lawrie starts, then probably worth getting him, as you know he'll put in.
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    Post by GreenMachine Tue Mar 19, 2019 9:47 am

    Liverpool_Bulldog wrote:Radley > Lawrie
    Sivo > Bird

    If Sele isn't named to start/bench I'll put him in instead of Sivo.

    Thoughts? Or just give Radley about her chance and sit tight.
    No great rush on Radley.

    His break even if 37 is hittable if you have other priorities. I might sit him outside my 17 this week, but might also regret that too. He SHOULD be cam Murray like in contribution! (on ability) but just isn’t quite doing it. Early days
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    Post by wolfking Tue Mar 19, 2019 9:49 am

    Chewie wrote:

    Highs and lows of fantasy. I know it can all fall apart this coming weekend so I'm taking it into my stride while it lasts.

    Yeah Rabs and Wolfie got dunked hard last weekend pale

    Was a tough start indeed mate. I'm ready to go again though. cheer
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    Post by Mulvy Tue Mar 19, 2019 9:50 am

    wolfking wrote:

    Thanks mate, considering I'm just inside the top 14000 after round 1..........I'm not holding my breath this year hahaha.  Probably why I might as well go with it.  Yes, there's nothing worse on being persuaded (not by fault by anyone) and talking yourself out of a pick and watch them go well and watch the player you talked yourself into go shit.  Overthinking is a fucking bitch too that brings things unstuck sometimes.  I don't think I'll worry too much with ranking and will probably have more fun going with the players I think and try and enjoy the game more instead of agonize over it.  That's why someone like Holland, I'm really keeping the faith with and gonna ride him strong.  

    Mate, in my first year my round 1 rank was about 15000, within a few weeks I was in the top 100. I wouldn't worry too much. Just get those cash makers in.
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    Post by Milchcow Tue Mar 19, 2019 9:50 am

    Liverpool_Bulldog wrote:Radley > Lawrie
    Sivo > Bird

    If Sele isn't named to start/bench I'll put him in instead of Sivo.

    Thoughts? Or just give Radley about her chance and sit tight.

    My personal opinion is that Radley wasn't good value in the first place. Maybe 5 points underpriced. Week 1 has done nothing to change that. Radley will no doubt improve on his round 1 fantasy output, but by how much?

    Round 1 has also exposed some players who look to be better value than Radley, if you can switch, the sooner the better.

    The exception would be if you thought Radley to step even more thus year (which obviously you do to some extent because he's in your team) and you think he will get there short term. In that case keep the faith.
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    Post by Iron Mike Tue Mar 19, 2019 9:50 am

    Milchy wrote:Holland is a player priced at 29 who we think might average 40-45

    Bateman is a player priced at 41 who looks like he could average 50-55

    If Holland fires from this week (entirely possible) then he could end up keeping the price difference between him and Bateman fairly constant. So waiting until you have the cash might work, but you will likely be forgoing points whilst you wait. 10 extra points a week is not to be sneezed at.


    If you think Bateman will average less than 50 and/or Holland will get more than 45, you should hold off.
    If you have to downgrade too much elsewhere to get the cash for Holland -> Bateman, then hold off.


    If you have Brown/Radley/Twal/Ofa I would trade them to Bateman, but that is mostly because I ended up deciding that none of those players were prime initial options.

    Some specific options for getting Bateman in might be a bit crazy, but it is not trade rage to try and bring in what looks to be the best option in a difficult position whilst he is the cheapest he will be for the rest of the season.

    I only have Sivo, Holland, DEdwards and Watson as underperformers along with Taupau and Arrow whom I know I shouldn't trade.

    One trade is Watson to MMorgan (people didn't think Watson was a great option anyway). Is this a good trade?

    I have considered Sivo to Host/Mikaele/Staggs and Arrow/Taupau to JBateman but they seem very average trades. Am I best to sit tight, bank the trade, potentially miss the boat but hope Bateman doesn't play 60+ and/or gets moved to the backs?

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    Post by liam123 Tue Mar 19, 2019 9:51 am

    Holland > Bird
    Kahu > Lawrie
    Would anybody do this or simply Kahu > Bird?
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    Post by Ponga Yeo the Mann Tue Mar 19, 2019 9:52 am

    my tv broke wrote:

    Yeah I think I'll still play Brown. Dont see Keighran picking up points so easily this week. I'm not terribly confident in eiether of them getting much more than 30.

    I am considering trading Edwards to Morgan so I don't have to play either of Keighran/Brown, but it means I'd have to play Ravalawa. Rava potentially matches the cheap half anyway. Unfortunately I didn't see the Dragons game so I don't really know what to expect from Rava, will he maintain a decent amount of TB's? Afterall, its only been one game.

    He passed the eye test for me. Big, fast and strong with the ability to break tackles

    Main downside was Aitken being a ball hog when he had a 2 on 1 where RAV5 would have scored for sure
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    Post by wolfking Tue Mar 19, 2019 9:53 am

    GreenMachine wrote:
    No great rush on Radley.

    His break even if 37 is hittable if you have other priorities. I might sit him outside my 17 this week, but might also regret that too. He SHOULD be cam Murray like in contribution! (on ability) but just isn’t quite doing it. Early days

    Nah, I think he can fuck off for me. I can go straight to Bateman.
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    Post by GreenMachine Tue Mar 19, 2019 9:54 am

    Milchy wrote:

    My personal opinion is that Radley wasn't good value in the first place. Maybe 5 points underpriced. Week 1 has done nothing to change that. Radley will no doubt improve on his round 1 fantasy output, but by how much?

    Round 1 has also exposed some players who look to be better value than Radley, if you can switch, the sooner the better.

    The exception would be if you thought Radley to step even more thus year (which obviously you do to some extent because he's in your team) and you think he will get there short term. In that case keep the faith.
    Only thing I’d add to this and it’s less about faith, is I like radleys price point as upgrade fodder rather than downgrade. Hence holding for now and building elsewhere.

    If you want to get a Gillett or dearer yet a Friend, you’d ideally not want to be losing a gun/keeper to do it. Build a bank with smaller downgrades and enjoy the moment you then Radley into a keeper.

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