NRL Fantasy 2019 Part 22

wolfking wrote:Going back to the Dogs, I'm surprised RFM is getting dropped.  Dogs need attack, and he's one player that can produce something.  Interesting Holland keeps his spot.  Pay is absolutely mad for breaking up the Holland/Smith combo.  Hopefully he goes back to it and if he does, I'm tempted to back Holland again.

With Martin there, Holland won't be kicking goals and that was part of the attraction.

Khany wrote:Am considering corey jensen

So am I, priced at $412 and a bit of a tackle machine if I remember
Rightly.

But with Cooper, Hess and Moose how many minutes does he get?

I think Asiata could get more time thought.

mattnz wrote:

With Martin there, Holland won't be kicking goals and that was part of the attraction.

That was never the attraction for me. Martin was kicking at the end of last year and Holland's average over that last 5 or 6 games was ridiculous.

Seeing lots of discussion of what look like flavour of the week trades. My suggestion is wait for TLT, going to be some real value with new cows available. They should be the primary focus of your trading this week, unless you have players that are injured or performing really badly that you should have cut last week.

I don't see reasons to waste trades on players that are scoring 5+ higher than their price point to be traded to others that may give 10 higher (or may not). Getting the right bottom dollar cows is far more likely to be where the money is, trading mid range for other mid range seems a waste, you want to go mid range to fallen gun in a couple of weeks instead. Guys like Gillett, Tolman are making money and looking ok, they shouldn't be urgent trade outs unless you are getting a Crichton or similar in return at a discount price point.

For me Holland is going, not getting the form I expected, so my reason for having him no longer applies. Will see if either Rava or Sivo make the team, both not getting the opportunities in attack that they need, both inside ball hog centers in teams that like spreading the ball to the other wing. No other obvious weaknesses other than halves which I deliberately started weak on anyway as there is serious value there. Hoping for Xerri to be named, already have him.

Holland to Bird this week for me. Other than that I think I'll sit tight and bank a trade unless anyone sees anything glaringly obvious with my squad.

Cook
Fifita Lawrie
Arrow Murray Gillett
Cleary Morgan
Bateman Nikora
Edwards CNK Burns

Garner Brown Bird Keighran/Burr

Keighran/Burr Sele Ravalawa Sivo

161k ITB

Think I'm going Edwards to Bird. If you picked Edwards you were aware he's never been a gun and were hoping he could make the leap to gun status at a discount. Whilst it's too early to tell for sure the signs are not good. He never gets passed the ball in attack whether it be because Ivan's structures don't allow, or he doesn't inject himself properly or the players don't like him. I don't know. The only way he's been getting points is coming out of his own end and creating for himself. The halves are dominant in attack just like Watson's problem at the knights. And he's losing cash. So whilst it may be a bit early to call, if he's not a gun and he's not making money he's a trade.

On the other side of trade, it means I can get Bird and this is really the last week to get him. It also frees up the cash I need to get Tedesco in the next week or two. It also means I can keep Capewell and Kahu who are both making money albeit slowly.

The only downside (besides if I was wrong and Edwards guns it from now) is that I need to play Kahu at WFB. Then again he's scored just as many points as Edwards and it would only be for a week or two until I can get Tedesco. If I didn't have Burns and CNK putting up good scores and Tedesco falling in price to start the year I might give Edwards longer to prove himself, but with those points being the case, Edwards is also surplus to my requirements ultimately.

My other trade may be Ravalawa to a cheapie depending on TLT but I'm glad my Edwards trade means I don't need to unless the trade has merit in its own right.

I mostly put this down to articulate my own thoughts but would welcome others' opinions.

mattnz wrote:

With Martin there, Holland won't be kicking goals and that was part of the attraction.

Nothing suggests this year. Holland lost a 27 straight goal kicking record on the weekend. If Holland, Martin, Smith on the same edge then he is a keep for one more week. If not.... goooooooonneeee

Mulvy wrote:Think I'm going Edwards to Bird. If you picked Edwards you were aware he's never been a gun and were hoping he could make the leap to gun status at a discount. Whilst it's too early to tell for sure the signs are not good. He never gets passed the ball in attack whether it be because Ivan's structures don't allow, or he doesn't inject himself properly or the players don't like him. I don't know. The only way he's been getting points is coming out of his own end and creating for himself. The halves are dominant in attack just like Watson's problem at the knights. And he's losing cash. So whilst it may be a bit early to call, if he's not a gun and he's not making money he's a trade.

On the other side of trade, it means I can get Bird and this is really the last week to get him. It also frees up the cash I need to get Tedesco in the next week or two. It also means I can keep Capewell and Kahu who are both making money albeit slowly.

The only downside (besides if I was wrong and Edwards guns it from now) is that I need to play Kahu at WFB. Then again he's scored just as many points as Edwards and it would only be for a week or two until I can get Tedesco. If I didn't have Burns and CNK putting up good scores and Tedesco falling in price to start the year I might give Edwards longer to prove himself, but with those points being the case, Edwards is also surplus to my requirements ultimately.

My other trade may be Ravalawa to a cheapie depending on TLT but I'm glad my Edwards trade means I don't need to unless the trade has merit in its own right.

I mostly put this down to articulate my own thoughts but would welcome others' opinions.

I also was really worried with how little they use him in attack. He tries to go looking for work and sniffs around the middle, but it does seem the players don't like him or something. I thought he could be a gun and while he got 35 on the weekend for doing next to nothing, it is worrying signs. I also have CNK and Burns, but I also have Morris who I need to get rid of. I also have Sivo and Rava and Holland, so it looks like for me Edwards will have to stay.

Mulvy wrote:Think I'm going Edwards to Bird. If you picked Edwards you were aware he's never been a gun and were hoping he could make the leap to gun status at a discount. Whilst it's too early to tell for sure the signs are not good. He never gets passed the ball in attack whether it be because Ivan's structures don't allow, or he doesn't inject himself properly or the players don't like him. I don't know. The only way he's been getting points is coming out of his own end and creating for himself. The halves are dominant in attack just like Watson's problem at the knights. And he's losing cash. So whilst it may be a bit early to call, if he's not a gun and he's not making money he's a trade.

On the other side of trade, it means I can get Bird and this is really the last week to get him. It also frees up the cash I need to get Tedesco in the next week or two. It also means I can keep Capewell and Kahu who are both making money albeit slowly.

The only downside (besides if I was wrong and Edwards guns it from now) is that I need to play Kahu at WFB. Then again he's scored just as many points as Edwards and it would only be for a week or two until I can get Tedesco. If I didn't have Burns and CNK putting up good scores and Tedesco falling in price to start the year I might give Edwards longer to prove himself, but with those points being the case, Edwards is also surplus to my requirements ultimately.

My other trade may be Ravalawa to a cheapie depending on TLT but I'm glad my Edwards trade means I don't need to unless the trade has merit in its own right.

I mostly put this down to articulate my own thoughts but would welcome others' opinions.

Omg. Fat finger and stupid phone. Was meant to upvote this :’( 

I’m in the same boat, if I sell Edward my back 5 would be Nikora/Holland or Bird, Burns/CNK/Hughes. Would free up a chunk of cash and although it’s been 2 weeks Edwards just isn’t getting that involvement and I am trying to be aggressive here getting rid of the shit kickers early instead of holding too long. This is why if Holland swaps edges he is a hold as it is a role change and bulldogs favour that edge so he would see more ball. Edwards or Panthers role isnt changing and you may be right, maybe Cleary’s gameplan is different to Hooks and he is taking the fullback out of the ball playing a bit more.

StormTrooper96 wrote:
Nothing suggests this year. Holland lost a 27 straight goal kicking record on the weekend. If Holland, Martin, Smith on the same edge then he is a keep for one more week. If not.... goooooooonneeee

SURELY Pay makes this change, fucking hell.

On Edwards mid way through the game he was about to scream onto an inside ball into a huge gap for a 20 point play before being tackled off the ball. Panthers ended up with a penalty out of it but doesn't do much for Edwards fantasy points.

Edwards has never played the role of ball playing fullback and that doesn't look like changing. His bread and butter is kick returns and tbs + support play through the middle. He only has to latch onto one offload/inside ball and people will be talking him up as a trade in

multiple.scoregasms wrote:On Edwards mid way through the game he was about to scream onto an inside ball into a huge gap for a 20 point play before being tackled off the ball. Panthers ended up with a penalty out of it but doesn't do much for Edwards fantasy points.

Yeah I remember yelling at the tv about that. You're holding?

multiple.scoregasms wrote:On Edwards mid way through the game he was about to scream onto an inside ball into a huge gap for a 20 point play before being tackled off the ball. Panthers ended up with a penalty out of it but doesn't do much for Edwards fantasy points.

Edwards has never played the role of ball playing fullback and that doesn't look like changing. His bread and butter is kick returns and tbs + support play through the middle. He only has to latch onto one offload/inside ball and people will be talking him up as a trade in

I did notice that, he was so close. He's always waiting for an offload and I think Cleary needs to realise this and try and get that happening with his forwards a little more.

Mulvy wrote:

Yeah I remember yelling at the tv about that. You're holding?

He is a hold for me. Nothing I've seen about him is worrying enough to trade him out

wolfking wrote:

I did notice that, he was so close.  He's always waiting for an offload and I think Cleary needs to realise this and try and get that happening with his forwards a little more.

Just wait till he is lurking off the shoulder of a fully fit Kikau

wolfking wrote:

I did notice that, he was so close.  He's always waiting for an offload and I think Cleary needs to realise this and try and get that happening with his forwards a little more.

It’s either him or Holland this week. Both have been woeful. Hard choice

Is R.James a hold or should be moved on, underwhelming scores and bleeding cash. Thinking of these trades:

Which is the better option?

A. R.James > Twal
B. R.James > Lawrie
C. R.James > TPJ
D. Hold

50K short of going to Surgess. Other trade is Rava > Burns.

multiple.scoregasms wrote:

He is a hold for me. Nothing I've seen about him is worrying enough to trade him out

Do you think he goes top 3 or 4 WFB by seasons end?

StormTrooper96 wrote:
It’s either him or Holland this week. Both have been woeful. Hard choice

I'm moving Holland and I don't think it's particularly close. He doesn't get ball in attack with Jackson cutting back in every play and doesn't go looking for work to pick up those cheap tbs.

multiple.scoregasms wrote:

Just wait till he is lurking off the shoulder of a fully fit Kikau

Good point.