HomeHow likely do we think it is that Cotric gets picked for Origin? Don’t want to be a week late to get Lolo but I might have to hold Sivo one more week
NRL Fantasy 2019 Part 50
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ParraMagic wrote:Hey guys, long time reader, first time poster. Thankyou for all your insights as of late.
Current Statistics:
Rank: 2617
Trades Remaining: 19
In The Bank: $553-
My Team:
Smith, C
Fifita, A Haas, P
Crichton, A Trbojevic, T Murray, C
Pearce, M Morgan, M
Nikora, B Xerri, B
Ponga, K Tedesco, J Sivo, M
Mahoney, R Rein, M Burgess, S Taumalolo, J
Young, H Dearden, T Ravalawa, M Papenhuyzen
I feel as if I could really go on a massive run here with my coin in the bank and current situation. Despite this, as it stands I only have six players playing round twelve bar trades. I'm not far off. If I got my captaincy right every week i'd be 453rd. Give me your thoughts on the players mentioned below:
BURGESS: I believe he will rise in value again over the next month with time in the middle with Murray unavailable/rested. I believe he is a keep until round 16. He eventually becomes Klemmer.
MORGAN: Holding out to see who gets named in Origin. I will take whoever is omitted out of Reynolds and Cleary.
SIVO: He goes to Tuivasa-Sheck after round 12. RTS should see minor drops until then, and the complete opposite on Sivo.
XERRI: Becomes Bateman when he returns. I will wait for possibly two price drops before picking him back up. Alternatively, with Tapine back and Leilua out for the season, he may even be named at right centre for the rest of the year, making his return to my team questionable.
REIN: Will become Cook when Peats returns. Getting the timing of this trade right is crucial. I could do it now, though I think holding for round 12 will be more worthwhile.
MAHONEY: Will become Cherry-Evans/Johnson after he returns and loses a little value.
RAVALAWA: Pretty much the reason I signed up, to get peoples thoughts. At this time of the year when everyones teams are forming for the run home, you need a POD. Ravalawa this week will become either Dylan Walker or Waqa Blake. Alternatively, he will become Nick Cotric or Clint Gutherson the following. I could trade him out for literally anyone except for Cook though I see value in these three.
1) Walker is now arguably in a team that is a heap better than '18 and '19. He is also in his favoured position as opposed to five-eighth. He's good for a 15/20, but 33% of his scores in 2017 were above 60. Valued at 376k BE 12 Plays round 12.
2) Blake was a borderline keeper last year with an average of almost 42 and finished the year at 574k. He scores erratic but can go big. Panthers are the sort of team that could really go on a run. Currently valued at 414k BE 35 Plays round 12.
3) Cotric has moved to centre and is valued at 425k. He is currently averaging 30, though you can expect him to make an extra 15 tackles AT LEAST a game now. I think he averages 40 for the rest of the year unless he is moved back to the wing. BE 25 Plays round 12 though could receive an unexpected Origin call up.
4) Gutherson had a shocker and scored 8 against the Storm. This won't happen again this year. He is back around his starting price and I see him back to averaging 45+ by the end of the year. Value 485k BE 43 Plays round 12. Does not offer POD as well as the others.
Whoever I chose could make or break my season. I'll get their round 12 points and I want at least a 100k price rise. There aren't many good cashies around at the moment.
Some players i'll look to get at some stage:
- Daly Cherry-Evans or Shaun Johnson
- Tom Trbojevic
- Jai Arrow
- Ryan Matterson
Thoughts?
Nice analysis of your team and potential trades.
I have Burgess too and was waiting to punt him off after Rnd 12 but you have a point if Murray is unavailable and he plays middle.
Of the 4 mentioned I am now warming up to Cotric. Leilua's spot is there to be taken for the whole season and he can make it his own if he plays well. Bateman & Leilua were doing well on that right hand side and I don't see any reason why Bateman & Cotric can't do the same.
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I’ll leave the advice to those who can help, not hurt, you. My job here is running the water. ButParraMagic wrote:Hey guys, long time reader, first time poster. Thankyou for all your insights as of late.
Current Statistics:
Rank: 2617
Trades Remaining: 19
In The Bank: $553-
My Team:
Smith, C
Fifita, A Haas, P
Crichton, A Trbojevic, T Murray, C
Pearce, M Morgan, M
Nikora, B Xerri, B
Ponga, K Tedesco, J Sivo, M
Mahoney, R Rein, M Burgess, S Taumalolo, J
Young, H Dearden, T Ravalawa, M Papenhuyzen
I feel as if I could really go on a massive run here with my coin in the bank and current situation. Despite this, as it stands I only have six players playing round twelve bar trades. I'm not far off. If I got my captaincy right every week i'd be 453rd. Give me your thoughts on the players mentioned below:
BURGESS: I believe he will rise in value again over the next month with time in the middle with Murray unavailable/rested. I believe he is a keep until round 16. He eventually becomes Klemmer.
MORGAN: Holding out to see who gets named in Origin. I will take whoever is omitted out of Reynolds and Cleary.
SIVO: He goes to Tuivasa-Sheck after round 12. RTS should see minor drops until then, and the complete opposite on Sivo.
XERRI: Becomes Bateman when he returns. I will wait for possibly two price drops before picking him back up. Alternatively, with Tapine back and Leilua out for the season, he may even be named at right centre for the rest of the year, making his return to my team questionable.
REIN: Will become Cook when Peats returns. Getting the timing of this trade right is crucial. I could do it now, though I think holding for round 12 will be more worthwhile.
MAHONEY: Will become Cherry-Evans/Johnson after he returns and loses a little value.
RAVALAWA: Pretty much the reason I signed up, to get peoples thoughts. At this time of the year when everyones teams are forming for the run home, you need a POD. Ravalawa this week will become either Dylan Walker or Waqa Blake. Alternatively, he will become Nick Cotric or Clint Gutherson the following. I could trade him out for literally anyone except for Cook though I see value in these three.
1) Walker is now arguably in a team that is a heap better than '18 and '19. He is also in his favoured position as opposed to five-eighth. He's good for a 15/20, but 33% of his scores in 2017 were above 60. Valued at 376k BE 12 Plays round 12.
2) Blake was a borderline keeper last year with an average of almost 42 and finished the year at 574k. He scores erratic but can go big. Panthers are the sort of team that could really go on a run. Currently valued at 414k BE 35 Plays round 12.
3) Cotric has moved to centre and is valued at 425k. He is currently averaging 30, though you can expect him to make an extra 15 tackles AT LEAST a game now. I think he averages 40 for the rest of the year unless he is moved back to the wing. BE 25 Plays round 12 though could receive an unexpected Origin call up.
4) Gutherson had a shocker and scored 8 against the Storm. This won't happen again this year. He is back around his starting price and I see him back to averaging 45+ by the end of the year. Value 485k BE 43 Plays round 12. Does not offer POD as well as the others.
Whoever I chose could make or break my season. I'll get their round 12 points and I want at least a 100k price rise. There aren't many good cashies around at the moment.
Some players i'll look to get at some stage:
- Daly Cherry-Evans or Shaun Johnson
- Tom Trbojevic
- Jai Arrow
- Ryan Matterson
Thoughts?
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You just don't get it. That's not a dig at you either it's just a fact.sajjos wrote:
If they don't pick him this year they might get away with it but next year he will be running the Roosters as the dominant half back. And if he is playing well and doesn't get picked then he might be tempted to go to court for loss of earnings specially since he is been blocked for playing for Qld.
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After holding Capewell for a week (and waiting a week on Lolo) I have left myself about $20k short of a straight trade. I would prefer to ditch Capewell this week as he is going to drop more cash and I have Xerri/Lomax to cover centre. To get LoLo now it means two out which I am happy with but the second in is a problem. Looking at the following
Capewell/Lawrie out & Lolo/Hiroti in (leaves more cash but is pretty much a red dot after the bye)
'- This isn't a bad thing but would rather a forward if I was going to do this. Luai is another option but his breakeven is shit
'- Can go Carty to someone useful in one move post rd 12
Capewell/Lawrie out & Lolo/Cotric in in (cost more but he will play him through to 16)
'-Thinking Cotric will probably increase in value over the period that he plays
'-Any other suggestion under $500k that play round 12 and are on the up would be helpful
Maybe thumbs up for the first line of thinking and thumbs down for the second
Capewell/Lawrie out & Lolo/Hiroti in (leaves more cash but is pretty much a red dot after the bye)
'- This isn't a bad thing but would rather a forward if I was going to do this. Luai is another option but his breakeven is shit
'- Can go Carty to someone useful in one move post rd 12
Capewell/Lawrie out & Lolo/Cotric in in (cost more but he will play him through to 16)
'-Thinking Cotric will probably increase in value over the period that he plays
'-Any other suggestion under $500k that play round 12 and are on the up would be helpful
Maybe thumbs up for the first line of thinking and thumbs down for the second
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Chewie wrote:I'm not keen on getting round 12 1-hit wonders. My trades are slightly unconventional.
Capewell and DBrown out
Cotric and ATaylor in
Both Cotric and Taytay are undervalued and will hopefully increase in value by round 18. Both will provide a solid score for round 12. Both will provide some good cover on the bench.
You’ll get a 0 for Cotric. He’ll be playing origin, Fred loves him.
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To be fair, in Xerri’s case, it’s career suicide if he doesn’t. His first and last game were both horrible for it.
And this is why he just isnt quite ready for first grade. Definitely potential. Definitely glimpses of what could be good, but just not there (yet)
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ParraMagic wrote:Hey guys, long time reader, first time poster. Thankyou for all your insights as of late.
Current Statistics:
Rank: 2617
Trades Remaining: 19
In The Bank: $553-
My Team:
Smith, C
Fifita, A Haas, P
Crichton, A Trbojevic, T Murray, C
Pearce, M Morgan, M
Nikora, B Xerri, B
Ponga, K Tedesco, J Sivo, M
Mahoney, R Rein, M Burgess, S Taumalolo, J
Young, H Dearden, T Ravalawa, M Papenhuyzen
I feel as if I could really go on a massive run here with my coin in the bank and current situation. Despite this, as it stands I only have six players playing round twelve bar trades. I'm not far off. If I got my captaincy right every week i'd be 453rd. Give me your thoughts on the players mentioned below:
BURGESS: I believe he will rise in value again over the next month with time in the middle with Murray unavailable/rested. I believe he is a keep until round 16. He eventually becomes Klemmer.
MORGAN: Holding out to see who gets named in Origin. I will take whoever is omitted out of Reynolds and Cleary.
SIVO: He goes to Tuivasa-Sheck after round 12. RTS should see minor drops until then, and the complete opposite on Sivo.
XERRI: Becomes Bateman when he returns. I will wait for possibly two price drops before picking him back up. Alternatively, with Tapine back and Leilua out for the season, he may even be named at right centre for the rest of the year, making his return to my team questionable.
REIN: Will become Cook when Peats returns. Getting the timing of this trade right is crucial. I could do it now, though I think holding for round 12 will be more worthwhile.
MAHONEY: Will become Cherry-Evans/Johnson after he returns and loses a little value.
RAVALAWA: Pretty much the reason I signed up, to get peoples thoughts. At this time of the year when everyones teams are forming for the run home, you need a POD. Ravalawa this week will become either Dylan Walker or Waqa Blake. Alternatively, he will become Nick Cotric or Clint Gutherson the following. I could trade him out for literally anyone except for Cook though I see value in these three.
1) Walker is now arguably in a team that is a heap better than '18 and '19. He is also in his favoured position as opposed to five-eighth. He's good for a 15/20, but 33% of his scores in 2017 were above 60. Valued at 376k BE 12 Plays round 12.
2) Blake was a borderline keeper last year with an average of almost 42 and finished the year at 574k. He scores erratic but can go big. Panthers are the sort of team that could really go on a run. Currently valued at 414k BE 35 Plays round 12.
3) Cotric has moved to centre and is valued at 425k. He is currently averaging 30, though you can expect him to make an extra 15 tackles AT LEAST a game now. I think he averages 40 for the rest of the year unless he is moved back to the wing. BE 25 Plays round 12 though could receive an unexpected Origin call up.
4) Gutherson had a shocker and scored 8 against the Storm. This won't happen again this year. He is back around his starting price and I see him back to averaging 45+ by the end of the year. Value 485k BE 43 Plays round 12. Does not offer POD as well as the others.
Whoever I chose could make or break my season. I'll get their round 12 points and I want at least a 100k price rise. There aren't many good cashies around at the moment.
Some players i'll look to get at some stage:
- Daly Cherry-Evans or Shaun Johnson
- Tom Trbojevic
- Jai Arrow
- Ryan Matterson
Thoughts?
Hi mate, and welcome. Good first post too!
At a very quick look I'd go Ravalawa to Taupau. I think Marty can only improve from here, and is hitting scores that are good enough to keep for the year as it stands.
Then next week I'd go Morgan to ARey (assuming no origin) and look at Deardon and Xerri out to afford it and to be honest, I'd probably dump an Origin player cause you are gonna be decimated during the bye rounds because of them (Crichton, JTrbo, Murray, Haas, Morgan, Teddy, Ponga combines for perhaps 1 to 2 more origin players than most teams are travelling with). Most here would probably disagree with the later suggestion.
I personally would bring in keepers though and forget the criterion of trying to make $100k, I think it limits you too much and perhaps pushes you towards a dud. If you were to hold fast on that then I'd go Walker, but I'd wait a week to see if he gets named for NSW.
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At least we'll know if he's selected today or tomorrowrectangle wrote:
You’ll get a 0 for Cotric. He’ll be playing origin, Fred loves him.
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Chewie wrote:I'm not keen on getting round 12 1-hit wonders. My trades are slightly unconventional.
Capewell and DBrown out
Cotric and ATaylor in
Both Cotric and Taytay are undervalued and will hopefully increase in value by round 18. Both will provide a solid score for round 12. Both will provide some good cover on the bench.
Taylor is interesting. Looked at him couple of weeks ago then slipped my mind. Might as well get rid of Morgan? Every predicted team I see has him somewhere in the Queensland 17
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With 20 trades left I should be max trading for Rd 12 numbers right? That's plenty left I feel
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Chewie wrote:
At least we'll know if he's selected today or tomorrow
Is the rumour true? I heard Freddy might already have his origin team and will name it early.
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I was looking at Taylor as well but his Kms are wayyyy down whenever he is paired with Roberts. Cheap enough to be a good scorer but I’ll pass
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Is the rumour true? I heard Freddy might already have his origin team and will name it early.
Yeah apparently they're not using this round as a final selection trial and already know what the team will be. Assume it will still be announced on Sunday as usual though
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Any love for Dunn? He could get 80 min in round 12 couldn't he? Low BE now, should get good minutes in 12. But most importantly he's basically basement price... Seems like a decent player too from brief looks at him.
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What's with the Kiwis taking digs about origin and the passion around it?
How would the All Blacks fanbase react if there was a player born in Australia and for whatever reason moved to NZ at age 10 (we're talking hypothetically here) and openly said he supports the Wallabies and grew up idolising (who's the most hated Wallaby on Langer levels? Gregan? Larkham? Burke? Eales?), but some stupid rules said he's only eligible to play for NZ, so he meets with the IRB in an attempt to get the rules changed, so he can play for the team where his heart lies.
But then NZ media and fans are still talking about picking him for the All Blacks? To play against the very opposition he wants to play for and he's not even THAT good, you have a few options.
Now put yourself in Keary's place. He gets to put on that maroon jersey and play for the team he grew up supporting. He's gonna be fkn pumped. But instead, he begrudgingly puts on a Blue jersey because it's good for his brand. He just goes out there and goes through the motions, against the team he wants to play for.. It's fucking stupid.
Origin is what it is because of the passion of the fans and the belief in what the jersey means. It might not actually mean as much to some players, but we think it does. In Keary's case, we know it doesn't mean shit.
How would the All Blacks fanbase react if there was a player born in Australia and for whatever reason moved to NZ at age 10 (we're talking hypothetically here) and openly said he supports the Wallabies and grew up idolising (who's the most hated Wallaby on Langer levels? Gregan? Larkham? Burke? Eales?), but some stupid rules said he's only eligible to play for NZ, so he meets with the IRB in an attempt to get the rules changed, so he can play for the team where his heart lies.
But then NZ media and fans are still talking about picking him for the All Blacks? To play against the very opposition he wants to play for and he's not even THAT good, you have a few options.
Now put yourself in Keary's place. He gets to put on that maroon jersey and play for the team he grew up supporting. He's gonna be fkn pumped. But instead, he begrudgingly puts on a Blue jersey because it's good for his brand. He just goes out there and goes through the motions, against the team he wants to play for.. It's fucking stupid.
Origin is what it is because of the passion of the fans and the belief in what the jersey means. It might not actually mean as much to some players, but we think it does. In Keary's case, we know it doesn't mean shit.
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Camo123 wrote:
Yeah apparently they're not using this round as a final selection trial and already know what the team will be. Assume it will still be announced on Sunday as usual though
Yeah - they are announcing on Sunday.
No doubt there will be a "leak" though.
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Mighty Fishes wrote:I was looking at Taylor as well but his Kms are wayyyy down whenever he is paired with Roberts. Cheap enough to be a good scorer but I’ll pass
48 average last 3 low score 44. Not sure reason for poor scoring before that? Coming back from injury?
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Rippin and Tearin wrote:Any love for Dunn? He could get 80 min in round 12 couldn't he? Low BE now, should get good minutes in 12. But most importantly he's basically basement price... Seems like a decent player too from brief looks at him.
I think he's benefitting from backline injuries recently (especially last week with Hampton gone early in game). If McGuire moves into starting team from reserves this week, does Dunn play this week
Should get decent mins in R12 though. Probably largely depends on Qld Origin team - how many of Scott, Hess, Granville, Cooper (+ McLean for NSW) get selected (are any of those retired from Origin)