NRL Fantasy 2020 Part 2

arsendragon wrote:The dudes on the supercoach podcasts are of the opinion Verrills willl get near 20 mins off Friend. That and his injury history lately means he is a no go for me. I like Hookers to be set and forget. Will probably be hard enough picking other speculative options in other positions this year without making that one hard too when it doesn't really need to be.

Are the supercoach podcasters connected with the Roosters in any way?

Fantasy fans are really great at assuming every club's reserve hooker is going to get massive amounts of game time.

In 2018 it was Radley and Friend - Radley did sub for him a few times in the early rounds, but Friend still averaged 68 minutes over the course of the season and averaged 48 points (his lowest points average in the past 7 seasons)

Friend's last 7 season averages
50.8 47.5 50.2 58.4 52.1 53.9 47.9

He is priced at 42.
In his 3 games he played uninjured last year he averaged 77 in 69 minutes
I can understand concerns about injury as he got done twice last year, but he is a key part of the Roosters game plan and isn't going to randomly be subbed off every week just to give a bench hooker a go.

Chewie wrote:

I don't think this will make Friend a trap. If he only plays 60 mins at least you will get what you payed for.

If you get Friend you’d want him to at least average 50ish so you can make 110-120k, if you reckon Friend won’t really average more than say 45 I’d say it’s pointless getting him.

mattnz wrote:Anyone else not considering Blayke Brailey after his price bump?

He is priced 9 points more than his average last season. Even if he gets 60 minutes per game, scoring at 0.6 ppm, thats only 36 point average, only 8 points more than he is priced at. Seeing better value elsewhere, and with many other value hookers and only 1 spot, it seems better for depth to get someone else.

At this point I am leaning towards getting him anyway. He's still likely to make a reasonable amount of money, just not as much as people were hoping for
In his only start at hooker last year he played the full 80, so I think he can play enough minutes to get a 40+ average

Anyone got an idea who is the preferred Warriors hooker at this stage or is it still all guess work ?

Knights recently upgraded a young hooker they have big wraps on, thats why they were happy for Levi to go. One to keep an eye on down the track i think.

Rabbits21 wrote:
Mate just personally I won’t be spending that much on my centres.

Also I don’t trust Tetevano.

I loved having set and forget centers last year, was a real problem position in 2018. Burns is priced at 34 points. His lowest score last season was 33 (except for games where he was injured early).

If Mbye starts at hooker and is Captain, I think he is a must have in the Centers too.

Should get consistent points from the Centers every week for the money spent. Others like Best are awkwardly priced, at an average of 22 and only averaged 25 in Canterbury Cup last season, so not seeing real value there.

Milchy wrote:

Are the supercoach podcasters connected with the Roosters in any way?

Fantasy fans are really great at assuming every club's reserve hooker is going to get massive amounts of game time.

In 2018 it was Radley and Friend - Radley did sub for him a few times in the early rounds, but Friend still averaged 68 minutes over the course of the season and averaged 48 points (his lowest points average in the past 7 seasons)

Friend's last 7 season averages
50.8 47.5 50.2 58.4 52.1 53.9 47.9

He is priced at 42.
In his 3 games he played uninjured last year he averaged 77 in 69 minutes
I can understand concerns about injury as he got done twice last year, but he is a key part of the Roosters game plan and isn't going to randomly be subbed off every week just to give a bench hooker a go.

Yeah no idea on that milchy. I think Ill just sit back and wait until team list tuesday to pick a team. I tried picking one last night and gave up halfway through lol

my tv broke wrote:Imo Mbye will be fine but wont go much higher than 35, 40 at best. Obvs 40 is great at centre but I see that as a best case scenario

Hes a bit like Kahu to me. Solid footballer but never really produce anything memorable.

He will put up stats similar to Jayden Bradley but play less mins

I agree with you re Best but hes priced such that it doesn't matter that much if he sucks

Who do you see as other options at center?

Aardvark Ratnick wrote:Anyone got an idea who is the preferred Warriors hooker at this stage or is it still all guess work ?

Most of their potential hookers are injured, Tevaga, Lawton, Roache. Egan is the winner by default to start the season, with Nikorima as backup.

mattnz wrote:

Most of their potential hookers are injured, Tevaga, Lawton, Roache. Egan is the winner by default to start the season, with Nikorima as backup.

Cheers for that.

mattnz wrote:

Who do you see as other options at center?

Shortlist depending on cash and teamlists: Mitchell, Mbye, Lomax, Suli, Milne, Moga

mattnz wrote:

Most of their potential hookers are injured, Tevaga, Lawton, Roache. Egan is the winner by default to start the season, with Nikorima as backup.

The problem with the Warriors hookers is that they aren't any good. (Tevaga is good but not at hooker anymore, Roache could be good but is always injured, Lawton & Egan are just not first grade standard.) 

I think Egan maybe will start the season but Nikorima will be their hooker within a couple of games if not immediately.

Chewie wrote:

I don't think this will make Friend a trap. If he only plays 60 mins at least you will get what you payed for.

If Verrills is on the bench, I can't pick Friend. Watching the first 7 games owning Macca last year was more excruciating than a root canal.

Liam Knight is slighty more expensive that I thought.

rhinoceroo wrote:

Shortlist depending on cash and teamlists: Mitchell, Mbye, Lomax, Suli, Milne, Moga

Yeah, I like Lomax assuming he's playing fullback. At his price seems like a surefire option in the centres.

I was liking Best for his DPP more than any genuine belief that he's going to score well, but if there is an injury it could force me to look elsewhere.

I guess the hope with Moga is that he'd be fit, confident, pre-season under his belt and he finds some old form? Kept an eye on him at the end of last year and I think he'd be a massive  gamble.

Anyway, I actually came with an unrelated question to all this CTR talk.

Can I please get a confirmation on what the lowest price is this season? Is it the 228K that has been the base in the rollout prices so far?

To give an example, what about Utoikamanu? He's not listed on the NRL.com Eels team list, but he's on MTB's site and he's listed at $212K. Is this just because he didn't make the official list yet? I noticed the Eels' list is only 28 players. Is that the same for all teams? Still room to move on the last two spots in the 30 man squads? And when they're named they'll come in at 228K as well? No 212K this year?

Yeah based off being able to see the 2020 prices in the stats centre the base price is 228k for players who haven't played before and 246k for those that played once

Utoikamanu actually got upgraded to top 30 contract for Eels this season within the last day but apparently is going to Tigers in 2021 so don't know if he'll actually get any gametime this year