NRL Fantasy 2020 Part 3

Mighty Fishes wrote:

Can’t find my original sportal avatar

Didn't someone on here make you an Uber cool one? (Do people still say uber?)

mattnz wrote:

Fotuaika

Mulvy wrote:

It's you, you MoFo!!


Yeah, nah, but (yeah I'm a Qldner) it's  Moeaki Fotuaika!

Ah, I see. Thanks chaps.

I'm actually a mad fan of that fella. I made the call to myself a couple of years ago that he had some Taumalolo-isms about him, and he just needed some minutes. Got those minutes at the back end of last year and proved rather handy to those who took the plunge.

I've liked and owned him a couple of times but he ain't as cheap as he used to be. Still a good option that I should keep an eye on.

Anyway, that's my rubbish story that was not desired by any.

Mulvy wrote:

Didn't someone on here make you an Uber cool one? (Do people still say uber?)

That was Honeysett. That too is on my old broken laptop

RandomSil wrote:

I would leave the cash as is. You do want some wiggle room but dont want overly much. Realistically 1 mid ranger and 1 cashcow will be the wrong choice and require trading after Round 1 so you will be fine. Not sure how I feel about JMK pic.

I'm also not too sure about JMK either. He seems like a great POD but his minutes are questionable and I was reading somewhere earlier that he could be injured? I don't know, who would you suggest as an alternative?

Teeth Eater wrote:



Ah, I see. Thanks chaps.

I'm actually a mad fan of that fella. I made the call to myself a couple of years ago that he had some Taumalolo-isms about him, and he just needed some minutes. Got those minutes at the back end of last year and proved rather handy to those who took the plunge.

I've liked and owned him a couple of times but he ain't as cheap as he used to be. Still a good option that I should keep an eye on.  

Anyway, that's my rubbish story that was not desired by any.

He's a beast to be sure. I've got him at 46 which is his avg from 10 games of 50 min+. This is just short of a keeper and just short of a cash maker. However, he only needs a couple/few more points to make the trade worthwhile. Is he a Vaughan 2017, or a countless other FRF's we've talked up over the last few years. History shows it's hard to make that leap to 50 in the FRF if memory serves. But get it right and it makes a massive difference to your prospects I think.

Mulvy wrote:

RandomSil wrote:

No Haas is a big call, Crichton had such a down year last year. Why does he bounce back? Cleary and Trbojevic are decent shouts.

I'm okay with leaving Haas out, it's just that lack of a definite captain option in that team worries me.

Why? Leaving Haas out is such a risky option. Its like going without Smith/Farah of years gone past or Cook last year.

You save an extra $100k-$70k if you take one of the other main cashcows, but also risk the usual questions with Smith and Cook with a new pack as well. Haas had what was a career year stats wise. While being a breakout year the bloke who busted tackles only scored 4 tries all year. This year he will have an actual Halfback in Croft instead of what was a rotating door. Then Hooker is between McCullough and Turpin who both need to actually show up this year or lose their position now that there are alternatives.

I can see a lot more attacking potential for him off an actually stable side. Then there is the fact he had a break out year, including rep honours and is still only 20 years old. Props normally dont peak until their mid 20s and he already had arguably one of the best Fantasy years. There is definitely a reason to say his scores dont continue, but how many times did we say that about Smith? If anythinf there is more upside potential with the idea of more attacking stats with an actual halfback taking pressure off Milford and an actual Fullback to open up the middle more.


Haas has a break even of 69 points heading into round 1 and averaged 67 points last season. Cook and Smith averaged the closest at 62 and 63 points respectively. However they play in a position full of value at the moment with Friend/McInnes and 4 low midrange guys all potentially being worth a punt as well. So other than the value options at hooker, you also lose on average 8 or points a week by not having him, quickly adds up, and considering you are looking for value at the start of the year. It is a lot easier to shuffle your team now to come up with $100k now than in 6 rounds.

Some people talked about making enough cash to bring him in by Round 6. Not only do you need to find the cash, but you already concede 50 points roughly from just 1 position. There is a lot of risk in not taking Haas and putting yourself behind the majority of the pack because he is so far ahead of other positions and captain choices.

If he goes bust you dont lose much either. Like yes some initial cash, but you do that with anyone who goes bust. But the risk is mitigated because everyone else owns him and you can trade him to anyone. If you took say Cleary or Tedesco as options you would need to find extra cash to get a captain option as well.

Mighty Fishes wrote:

That was Honeysett. That too is on my old broken laptop

Ah, that's sad. No worries no problems, someone on here I reckon could make a new one, wink, wink. Have at it Mofo's, and be nice, he doesn't suck all the time, he's a really cool fish.

Mulvy wrote:

Ah, that's sad. No worries no problems, someone on here I reckon could make a new one, wink, wink. Have at it Mofo's, and be nice, he doesn't suck all the time, he's a really cool fish.

Milchcow wrote:

wolfking wrote:
I reckon his minutes could be lower based on fitness and should increase as the season goes on.

He's only started in the 2nd row 9 games in the past 2 years, but he has played an average of 75 minutes in those games. Where are the fitness concerns coming from?

I think it just looks like he's unfit. I had the exact same concern till I looked up his minutes. Just one of those builds.

Turner_27 wrote:

RandomSil wrote:

I would leave the cash as is. You do want some wiggle room but dont want overly much. Realistically 1 mid ranger and 1 cashcow will be the wrong choice and require trading after Round 1 so you will be fine. Not sure how I feel about JMK pic.

I'm also not too sure about JMK either. He seems like a great POD but his minutes are questionable and I was reading somewhere earlier that he could be injured? I don't know, who would you suggest as an alternative?

Why? Katoa? I doubt it impacts on him unless the Bulldogs dont perform. Pay has less than 40% winrate and if the Bulldogs dont win this year he should be on his way. Otherwise others have mentioned how Katoa isnt really much of a Hooker.

Looking at JMK stays they arent bad averaging 48 points at hooker. So he may not be that bad of a call at all. You could check some teams in tbe assistant coach section for alternatives.

Mighty Fishes wrote:

Teeth Eater wrote:

I got that one quick enough, but still haven't figured out who Mofo is.

Randomsil

Mulvy wrote:

Mighty Fishes wrote:

That was Honeysett. That too is on my old broken laptop

Ah, that's sad. No worries no problems, someone on here I reckon could make a new one, wink, wink. Have at it Mofo's, and be nice, he doesn't suck all the time, he's a really cool fish.

Not true, he sucks.

Mighty Fishes wrote:

Teeth Eater wrote:

I got that one quick enough, but still haven't figured out who Mofo is.

Randomsil

Hahahaha no.

And who is Lucy?

RandomSil wrote:

Not true, he sucks.

This year is my year I’ve been training the house down

RandomSil wrote:

Hahahaha no.

And who is Lucy?

Leilua the former dragon not the former raider

Mighty Fishes wrote:

Mulvy wrote:

As much as I love the rainbow unicorn, you know you're now relieved of all inconveniences now right?

Can’t find my original sportal avatar

Here is one



Or this I guess..

Mighty Fishes wrote:

RandomSil wrote:

Not true, he sucks.

This year is my year I’ve been training the house down

Yeah Waffle House! Imma snap you like a slim jim brutha!

RandomSil wrote:

Yeah Waffle House! Imma snap you like a slim jim brutha!

Come at me!

Mighty Fishes wrote:

RandomSil wrote:

Hahahaha no.

And who is Lucy?

Leilua the former dragon not the former raider

He needs 60 minutes to be value and I dont see him getting them.

RandomSil wrote:

Why? Leaving Haas out is such a risky option. Its like going without Smith/Farah of years gone past or Cook last year.

You save an extra $100k-$70k if you take one of the other main cashcows, but also risk the usual questions with Smith and Cook with a new pack as well. Haas had what was a career year stats wise. While being a breakout year the bloke who busted tackles only scored 4 tries all year. This year he will have an actual Halfback in Croft instead of what was a rotating door. Then Hooker is between McCullough and Turpin who both need to actually show up this year or lose their position now that there are alternatives.

I can see a lot more attacking potential for him off an actually stable side. Then there is the fact he had a break out year, including rep honours and is still only 20 years old. Props normally dont peak until their mid 20s and he already had arguably one of the best Fantasy years. There is definitely a reason to say his scores dont continue, but how many times did we say that about Smith? If anythinf there is more upside potential with the idea of more attacking stats with an actual halfback taking pressure off Milford and an actual Fullback to open up the middle more.


Haas has a break even of 69 points heading into round 1 and averaged 67 points last season. Cook and Smith averaged the closest at 62 and 63 points respectively. However they play in a position full of value at the moment with Friend/McInnes and 4 low midrange guys all potentially being worth a punt as well. So other than the value options at hooker, you also lose on average 8 or points a week by not having him, quickly adds up, and considering you are looking for value at the start of the year. It is a lot easier to shuffle your team now to come up with $100k now than in 6 rounds.

Some people talked about making enough cash to bring him in by Round 6. Not only do you need to find the cash, but you already concede 50 points roughly from just 1 position. There is a lot of risk in not taking Haas and putting yourself behind the majority of the pack because he is so far ahead of other positions and captain choices.

If he goes bust you dont lose much either. Like yes some initial cash, but you do that with anyone who goes bust. But the risk is mitigated because everyone else owns him and you can trade him to anyone. If you took say Cleary or Tedesco as options you would need to find extra cash to get a captain option as well.

I mean, I can't really argue with any of that. I just see Haas on the same level as Smith, Cook and McInnes but more expensive. I think he is almost certainly going to lose value even in spite of your really good points. But I agree, as posted earlier:

Mulvy wrote:I was intent on not getting Haas and captaining one of Cook, Smith or McInnes but with all these value hookers showing up and FRF being as tricky as usual, I'm coming around to the idea of starting Haas. I mean, if I start with Cook, I'll have Friend, Koro, Brailey and now probably Grant on the bench. I know I'm allowed to do that if I want, but it's bound to make me short on coverage. I don't mind if I go without coverage in one position but would be uneasy doing it in more than one position. And I really don't want to go without one of those four (haas,smith,cook,mcinnes) after captaincy roulette plagued the start of my season last year.

the value available at hooker, and the usual trickiness of FRF make his selection more compelling.