NRL Fantasy 2020 Part 3

RandomSil wrote:

Mighty Fishes wrote:

Mulvy wrote:

As much as I love the rainbow unicorn, you know you're now relieved of all inconveniences now right?

Can’t find my original sportal avatar

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Or this I guess..

standard-issue wrote:

You've actually used that second one for a while haven't you MF?

Mulvy wrote:l

I mean, I can't really argue with any of that. I just see Haas on the same level as Smith, Cook and McInnes but more expensive. I think he is almost certainly going to lose value even in spite of your really good points. But I agree, as posted earlier:

the value available at hooker, and the usual trickiness of FRF make his selection more compelling.

castlecrag sweethearts wrote:The sweethearts of Castlecrag have chosen their men!

They like balance and good coverage for when their thingies are dithered.

Friend
Fisher-Harris Klemmer
Hess Williams Stimson
Brimson Douehi
Burns O'Neill
Hopoate Isaako Papenhuyzen

Koroisau Brailey Su'A Drinkwater

Utoikamanu Faasuamaleaui Grant Paix

Be bold with your critique

RandomSil wrote:

Why? Leaving Haas out is such a risky option. Its like going without Smith/Farah of years gone past or Cook last year.

You save an extra $100k-$70k if you take one of the other main cashcows, but also risk the usual questions with Smith and Cook with a new pack as well. Haas had what was a career year stats wise. While being a breakout year the bloke who busted tackles only scored 4 tries all year. This year he will have an actual Halfback in Croft instead of what was a rotating door. Then Hooker is between McCullough and Turpin who both need to actually show up this year or lose their position now that there are alternatives.

I can see a lot more attacking potential for him off an actually stable side. Then there is the fact he had a break out year, including rep honours and is still only 20 years old. Props normally dont peak until their mid 20s and he already had arguably one of the best Fantasy years. There is definitely a reason to say his scores dont continue, but how many times did we say that about Smith? If anythinf there is more upside potential with the idea of more attacking stats with an actual halfback taking pressure off Milford and an actual Fullback to open up the middle more.


Haas has a break even of 69 points heading into round 1 and averaged 67 points last season. Cook and Smith averaged the closest at 62 and 63 points respectively. However they play in a position full of value at the moment with Friend/McInnes and 4 low midrange guys all potentially being worth a punt as well. So other than the value options at hooker, you also lose on average 8 or points a week by not having him, quickly adds up, and considering you are looking for value at the start of the year. It is a lot easier to shuffle your team now to come up with $100k now than in 6 rounds.

Some people talked about making enough cash to bring him in by Round 6. Not only do you need to find the cash, but you already concede 50 points roughly from just 1 position. There is a lot of risk in not taking Haas and putting yourself behind the majority of the pack because he is so far ahead of other positions and captain choices.

If he goes bust you dont lose much either. Like yes some initial cash, but you do that with anyone who goes bust. But the risk is mitigated because everyone else owns him and you can trade him to anyone. If you took say Cleary or Tedesco as options you would need to find extra cash to get a captain option as well.

castlecrag sweethearts wrote:The sweethearts of Castlecrag have chosen their men!

They like balance and good coverage for when their thingies are dithered.

Friend
Fisher-Harris Klemmer
Hess Williams Stimson
Brimson Douehi
Burns O'Neill
Hopoate Isaako Papenhuyzen

Koroisau Brailey Su'A Drinkwater

Utoikamanu Faasuamaleaui Grant Paix

Be bold with your critique

castlecrag sweethearts wrote:The sweethearts of Castlecrag have chosen their men!

They like balance and good coverage for when their thingies are dithered.

Friend
Fisher-Harris Klemmer
Hess Williams Stimson
Brimson Douehi
Burns O'Neill
Hopoate Isaako Papenhuyzen

Koroisau Brailey Su'A Drinkwater

Utoikamanu Faasuamaleaui Grant Paix

Be bold with your critique

Mulvy wrote:

I like how you've put Grant Paix together

I think I read somewhere JFH is coming off injury and will be underdone. Klemmer had a great season and I expect that to continue but I don't really think there is any room for improvement and he'll play origin surely?

Hess I'm gonna keep an eye on, someone tell me about Williams - Are we expecting Gallen's 50 minutes with Williams' ppm of 0.835 or more? Would be borderline at that rate.

I'm skeptical on Doueheiehi but if he's goal kicker he has to come into consideration, especially now 2nd year back from ACL.

O'Neill, really?

I don't see any value in Hoppa (thoughts there?) Drinkwater I've already talked about.

Donkeyyyyyy wrote:

I haven't really dug into the numbers yet as let's face it, my team is going to change more than buying tic-tacs with a 50 come TLT. I can say that should Haas remain out of my team, he will more than like be in there as the first gun to bring in.

Bethany_B wrote:On the Haas topic, which combo do you guys think is better?

A: Cook + James

B: Haas + JMK (or someone else at or below his price since I have plenty of hooker cover with Grant, Brailey and Mann)

Both combos save a trade since Cook and Haas are both season keepers but I'm not entirely sure which one to start with.

Welshy wrote:Whats news on this Grant kid then, I've missed it

RandomSil wrote:

Who is Grant?

RandomSil wrote:

This is why we cant do a Podcast we have no fucking idea.

RandomSil wrote:

Same level sure, but above them slightly. I think it depends where you want to compromise, but $100k for what is an 8 point difference each week on average. Pretty much pick a player (Gun/Midranger) in any position and you can find someone who costs $100k less that can potentially provide similar value. If $100k transform your team then it could be worth it, and if he backfires you get a great jump on the majority of teams. To me its the Smith debate, yes there are people close to his scores who are managable captains. But sometimes you have to stick with the gun.

Bethany_B wrote:

RandomSil wrote:

Who is Grant?

Harry Grant, Cam Smith's heir apparent.

He's apparently being loaned to the Tigers in exchange for Momirovski, so there's a good chance he plays big mins (considering the Tigers have no other real contenders for the hooking role)

Mulvy wrote:

Again, good points, similar to the Smith debate but different. Was Smith ever priced at 69, two above his average? (I don't know) Haas has one season under his belt. Maybe he sucks, in the heat of the first five rounds of the year which he avoided last year (maybe he's even better with the coach resting the less fit forwards?) Maybe he finally has a couple of sub 50 games like everyone else? The point is, there are a host (or Lawrie ) of reasons why he might score less, and not so many that he may average more (namely that he's priced at 69 and no one averages over 69!)

RandomSil wrote:

I thought Mbye was there? The Tigers have too many players they are doing sweet f. all with. I mean Douehi went there for FB, Mbye went there for a starting role, didnt they get Billy Walters as well? Brooks and Benji have the hlfs sown up.