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    NRL Fantasy 2020 Part 28 - too many guns

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    Post by multiple.scoregasms Wed Jun 03, 2020 12:56 pm

    Verbal Kint wrote:

    Got to adapt imo

    Too early to tell if the game has fundamentally changed with rule changes. By game 8 tackle counts were much more normalised as the teams seemed to adapt

    I still think the fundamentals will apply - Keepers when the value is right, cash cows that make bulk coin and value buys with keeper upside
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    Post by ytsb Wed Jun 03, 2020 12:57 pm

    Shady2K wrote:

    Did some checking on MTB's site and came up that Crichton got 40 without a try (minus his goals), he also played 90 minutes. This is obviously good but not really sustainable for a centre unless you're Latrell at centre or an in-form Burns. Main question is whether he can maintain a 40 average, but more likely low to mid 30s. Example scenario he averages 30, and only gain 80k over three weeks. Obviously he could score a try, but so could Wiliame (who also got 32 without a try last week)

    On the other hand,  JTB does average 36 (minus his try last week) and now a starting front rower. An average of 36 will still net him 120k~ over three weeks. His minutes could also increase slightly at any time as he keeps improving so who knows - but his main appeal to me is his quicker cash generation

    If Wiliame can keep getting 30 that's good enough for me until someone really sticks their hand up in that position. Ideally Aubo gets his starting 80min jersey back but it's just a terrible position for fantasy

    I didn't think about it that way, that's really helpful. Run the gauntlet for a few weeks without centre cover for the greater good. Maybe pick up latrell in a few weeks when Bennett realises the Souths are gonna miss out on the 8. I'll have a shuffle around and see if I can go JTB and still bring in Cleary next round! Cheers mate
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    Post by Cake Tiger Wed Jun 03, 2020 12:58 pm

    Anyone considering keeping Taumalolo, Cleary and Aubbs all in the EMGs this week?

    Just seems too hard to do. Cleary will be be back. The others would make the 17 if playing but are there too many risks? Or is it worth waiting a week to see?
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    Post by Shady2K Wed Jun 03, 2020 12:59 pm

    ytsb wrote:

    I didn't think about it that way, that's really helpful. Run the gauntlet for a few weeks without centre cover for the greater good. Maybe pick up latrell in a few weeks when Bennett realises the Souths are gonna miss out on the 8. I'll have a shuffle around and see if I can go JTB and still bring in Cleary next round! Cheers mate

    All good mate

    Also just convinced myself re Burns and is now on the watchlist. 55 last week against the Roosters with plenty of slapsies, hopefully has his confidence back after a bad start to the year. Up against Storm this week so will wait and see, but could be the option in the centres alongside Capewell for set and forget. 430k and a be of 29. Don't forget he was also considered by many to be their 'gun' centre at the start of the year alongside Aubo, Staggs etc
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    Post by robelgordo Wed Jun 03, 2020 1:03 pm

    Views on best cow at say 350k and under?

    I don’t mind punting on Clark, I think Holbrook might have a decent plan with his weird bench (jury out on cattle being good enough to execute). But potentially means I forego CTR depth. As we go from 4 to 2 trades next week, I’m not sure that is wise as may not be easy to fix. In which case, the other option is SCrichton.

    Am I missing any other cheap CTRs or better cows than Clark?


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    Post by mattnz Wed Jun 03, 2020 1:05 pm

    Shady2K wrote:

    All good mate

    Also just convinced myself re Burns and is now on the watchlist. 55 last week against the Roosters with plenty of slapsies, hopefully has his confidence back after a bad start to the year. Up against Storm this week so will wait and see, but could be the option in the centres alongside Capewell for set and forget. 430k and a be of 29. Don't forget he was also considered by many to be their 'gun' centre at the start of the year alongside Aubo, Staggs etc
    Could also get dropped if they move mitchell to center
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    Post by Camo123 Wed Jun 03, 2020 1:07 pm

    KingTeddy wrote:It doesnt sound good for Aubo just listening to Robbos press conference. He said Aubo has been gone for a while but is a highly experienced player so can come back on short notice. Doesnt look good :/

    Am I reading this wrong, that sounds good to me that he can come back at short notice
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    Post by AL Wed Jun 03, 2020 1:07 pm

    mattnz wrote:
    In community team, I deliberately act more conservatively than I do in my own team.

    In my own team I can calculate exactly what benefit I am getting for taking out Lolo. In community team, you dont have the same clarity of what the upside is as everyone would do things differently.

    isn't the idea of a community team to vote how you normally would? Otherwise you are reinforcing the group think or skewing the results and it becomes more of an experimental team (which is what Wags teams are for).
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    Post by ytsb Wed Jun 03, 2020 1:08 pm

    Kind of hope Aubbo is on the pine now... Allows me to get Ponga this week and Cleary the next!
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    Post by Guest Wed Jun 03, 2020 1:09 pm

    multiple.scoregasms wrote:

    Too early to tell if the game has fundamentally changed with rule changes. By game 8 tackle counts were much more normalised as the teams seemed to adapt

    I still think the fundamentals will apply - Keepers when the value is right, cash cows that make bulk coin and value buys with keeper upside

    I want to take advantage before this happens. Can change my approach when things settle down. I'll have cows maturing around then (maybe r10) so I can pivot to pick up some keepers based on value/where the game is at.

    I'm only picking up one of Ponga/Teddy while things are in flux. Its not as though I'm 'all in' on WFBs. Sexier than bringing in Twal or Yeo etc. Its very important to have a semi when looking at your team Wink
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    Post by Shady2K Wed Jun 03, 2020 1:10 pm

    mattnz wrote:
    Could also get dropped if they move mitchell to center

    Maybe

    Or maybe Graham to the wing and Johnston out or benched
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    Post by mattnz Wed Jun 03, 2020 1:10 pm

    AL wrote:

    isn't the idea of a community team to vote how you normally would? Otherwise you are reinforcing the group think or skewing the results and it becomes more of an experimental team (which is what Wags teams are for).
    Diverse thinking votes become wasted votes. Better to influence the outcome towards a preferred outcome of a range of mainstream conservative options than have your vote wasted.
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    Post by mattnz Wed Jun 03, 2020 1:12 pm

    Verbal Kint wrote:

    I want to take advantage before this happens. Can change my approach when things settle down. I'll have cows maturing around then (maybe r10) so I can pivot to pick up some keepers based on value/where the game is at.

    I'm only picking up one of Ponga/Teddy while things are in flux. Its not as though I'm 'all in' on WFBs. Sexier than bringing in Twal or Yeo etc. Its very important to have a semi when looking at your team Wink
    I am taking the same approach. Waiting on a key wfb to fail and pick them up cheap later.
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    Post by Joey Superior Wed Jun 03, 2020 1:12 pm

    i think Turbo will be kept quite by the Eels this week.
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    Post by Rabbits21 Wed Jun 03, 2020 1:13 pm

    BCT05 wrote:

    Yeah I think I've settled on moving Aubo out as well. Too much uncertainty with him and the improvements I can make to my team by downgrading him to the likes of Crichton are too good to ignore. I'll just run with Capewell, Williame and Crichton in centres and not feel like I'm missing out too much in that annoying position
    That’s exactly who I’m gonna be running with in my centres too.

    If the game stays up at this pace I don’t see Teddy dropping much money at all tbh.
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    Post by mattnz Wed Jun 03, 2020 1:15 pm

    Rabbits21 wrote:
    That’s exactly who I’m gonna be running with in my centres too.

    If the game stays up at this pace I don’t see Teddy dropping much money at all tbh.
    Just need 2 or 3 weeks of wet weather and “short stud” teddy becomes human again
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    Post by Milchcow Wed Jun 03, 2020 1:15 pm

    Chewie wrote:

    I agree with you Loomer. If we had bye rounds it would be a different story and I would suggest to hold Lolo, but with it being a short season without bye rounds, these early rounds are crucial for making gains and positioning yourself right.

    The biggest advantage for Lolo at the start of the season over other captaincy options was no origin. That's now gone, and now it seems he is as likely to get a rest during the season as anyone.

    Also, I think its wrong to say people prioritise certain positions at certain times of the season. People get guns when they are cheap. So far, none of the established forward guns has had a bad game to become affordable. Its get the ones underpriced to start with (and people have gotten those when possible) or wait it out

    JTrbo put up a relatively low score on the weekend, if he can back that up with another below average score people will be jumping on him soon
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    Post by Rabbits21 Wed Jun 03, 2020 1:15 pm

    WT2K wrote:

    This is tempting.. same with Lolo > teddy
    Lolo to McInnes is tempting too and just getting Tommy T in over Teddy. 

    Sadly I do not have enough second row cover to be able to go Lolo to McInnes I don’t think.
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    Post by Camo123 Wed Jun 03, 2020 1:28 pm

    I can't quote posts properly anymore, does anyone know how to fix it
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    Post by Milchcow Wed Jun 03, 2020 1:33 pm

    Camo123 wrote:I can't quote posts properly anymore, does anyone know how to fix it

    I just edited your previous post to this, and submitted it without making any changes, and it fixed up the quote

    So, in other words, I don't know. Maybe get SI onto it

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