NRL Fantasy 2021 Part 3 - Closer

It wont be exactly these players, but end of season gun team should look something like:
Cook/Grant
Haas Lolo "60+ Mid Gun"
Crichton Matterson
Cleary Moses
Best Lomax
Teddy Ponga "55+ WFB Gun"

McInnes Harris Koro  "60+ Gun"
Cheap cover x 4 that you have traded down to through the season

Interestingly, only 6 of these played origin last season. Just find the 3 missing players that don't play Origin as early as possible and you are set.

mattnz wrote:
Any Mid player that you are buying in mid-range expecting low 50s from, shouldn't be in your team at the end of the season if you have gunned up. See my other post for the details.

Yes, but right now we are talking about are starting teams, not our final ones. Unless I missed something

Someone who averages 50 but can be bought for a price of less than 40, is probably a good pick

StormTrooper96 wrote:

They have a few young kids coming through the system that actually look really good… Fletcher Baker missed the second half of 2019 and all of 2020 but looks about 1-2 years away still… Egan Butcher, brother of Nat, and apparently the better of the two. Grew up making Union rep teams and signed by the Roosters has a big engine and a rig too.

But other than that they don't have any out and out second rowers

Egan Butcher has been on the Fantasy radar for probably 3 or so years now... He's starting to look like he might have to join the MCK Myth, Greg LeleisiuaoMarzhew club (can't see much opportunities for him in that Roosters team short of several injuries!)

robelgordo wrote:

No need to shout mate haha. I have McInnes in my draft - but it was put together before all this nonsense emerged. He still might be a 80 min lock averaging 70, despite off-field dramas. But it is starting to look like a risky proposition.

Avoid avoid avoid.

Milchcow wrote:

Yes, but right now we are talking about are starting teams, not our final ones. Unless I missed something

Someone who averages 50 but can be bought for a price of less than 40, is probably a good pick

The point I am making is that if you pick a mid that is underpriced, but going to score a 50 average, they are going to need to be traded at some point to reach your gun team at end of season. They are an expensive cash cow. If going for a mid that you think is under-priced, go for one you think can reach a 60 average and stay in your team for the season instead. Examples from last season - Carrigan, Yeo (close enough at 58), Crichton, Harris. You want to find their equivalent for this season.

Rabbits21 wrote:
Avoid avoid avoid.

Didn’t you think he was better at lock fantasy wise when you were arguing in Chewie’s team tracker

mattnz wrote:It wont be exactly these players, but end of season gun team should look something like:
Cook/Grant
Haas Lolo "60+ Mid Gun"
Crichton Matterson
Cleary Moses
Best Lomax
Teddy Ponga "55+ WFB Gun"

McInnes Harris Koro  "60+ Gun"
Cheap cover x 4 that you have traded down to through the season

Interestingly, only 6 of these played origin last season. Just find the 3 missing players that don't play Origin as early as possible and you are set.

There are obviously only 6 Origin players there if you choose to count Cook and Grant as one player, write "60+ Mid gun" instead of "Murray or Jurbo" and decide Moses is a higher scorer than DCE.

mattnz wrote:The point I am making is that if you pick a mid that is underpriced, but going to score a 50 average

if someone is priced under 40 and will average over 50 they are an auto pick in a starting team imo. Mofo last year, etc

you're basically going with the same strategy anyway but just hoping some of them turn out to average higher than that

my tv broke wrote:

if someone is priced under 40 and will average over 50 they are an auto pick in a starting team.

you're basically going with the same strategy anyway but just hoping some of them turn out to average higher than that

Someone that is priced under 50 and will average over 60 is a better pick though.

mattnz wrote:
Someone that is priced under 50 and will average over 60 is a better pick though.

goes without saying but you're getting to the pointy end of the scale where the likelihood is low

Would anyone consider starting with McCullough if he ends up as the Dragons hooker?

Priced at 54, averaged 66 in the seven 80 minute games he played for the Knights last year under the new rules. Averaged 57 just in tackles.

It's not an inspiring real-life pick, but that extra 130k saved on Cook could go to good use elsewhere.

rhinoceroo wrote:

There are obviously only 6 Origin players there if you choose to count Cook and Grant as one player, write "60+ Mid gun" instead of "Murray or Jurbo" and decide Moses is a higher scorer than DCE.

It makes sense to have Koro and McInnes instead of Cook and Grant for round 13. No need to have both Cook and Grant. The same with Moses vs DCE.

There will be another 60+ gun mid this season at a discounted price point, that isn't Murray or Jurbo and doesn't play origin, just like there was last season. You just need to find them.

mattnz wrote:
Someone that is priced under 50 and will average over 60 is a better pick though.

If you can find them. You haven't got any in your team at the moment either though

Twal would be the closest, priced at 53 and you'd be hoping for 60s.

mrbrownstone wrote:Would anyone consider starting with McCullough if he ends up as the Dragons hooker?

Priced at 54, averaged 66 in the seven 80 minute games he played for the Knights last year under the new rules. Averaged 57 just in tackles.

It's not an inspiring real-life pick, but that extra 130k saved on Cook could go to good use elsewhere.

I love that thinking, does he get 80 minutes with McInnes there? I can't see both Mcs getting 80 minutes, something has to give.

mrbrownstone wrote:Would anyone consider starting with McCullough if he ends up as the Dragons hooker?

Priced at 54, averaged 66 in the seven 80 minute games he played for the Knights last year under the new rules. Averaged 57 just in tackles.

It's not an inspiring real-life pick, but that extra 130k saved on Cook could go to good use elsewhere.

I don't think he'd do as much defensive work at the Dragons with McInnes also on the field, so would probably just avoid both to start the season.

Milchcow wrote:
Taukeiaho scores more points when he gets more minutes, as most forwards do.

But I don't think he'll average a lot more minutes. Robinson is the master of rotation and managing workload. There will be a game or 2 where the Roosters are winning big and Tauk gets a rest to give a bench guy a long stint. You have to account for that in your planning.

The goalkicking is a nice bonus, but I am not sure he'll get a lot more other than that, and I think he needs more than just goalkicking extras to be a purchase

If I was going a Roosters forward it would be JWH. There were 5 occasions where he only had 1 stint despite being starting prop. About 5 points under priced based on the assumption he goes back to 2 stints with a regular bye schedule

my tv broke wrote:

goes without saying but you're getting to the pointy end of the scale where the likelihood is low

There were only 6 of them last season.

mrbrownstone wrote:Would anyone consider starting with McCullough if he ends up as the Dragons hooker?

Priced at 54, averaged 66 in the seven 80 minute games he played for the Knights last year under the new rules. Averaged 57 just in tackles.

It's not an inspiring real-life pick, but that extra 130k saved on Cook could go to good use elsewhere.

I dont mind it but I couldn't pick him myself.

He's coming back from tearing his hamstring off the bone, he's always been a super fit guy but it may take him a while to get up to speed again.

multiple.scoregasms wrote:

If I was going a Roosters forward it would be JWH. There were 5 occasions where he only had 1 stint despite being starting prop. About 5 points under priced based on the assumption he goes back to 2 stints with a regular bye schedule

The one stint thing is going happen this year too in blowouts. JWH is the oldest and most battered of the Roosters forwards but Robinson will want to manage him to squeeze as much as possible out of him at the business end of the season, I think.

mattnz wrote:
There were only 6 of them last season.

In a season where scores were artificially increased across the board by the rule changes, don't have that luxury this year.

Who's in those six? Grant and Carrigan were in everyone's teams, they were obvious choices (not necessarily as 60+ scorers to start with though), Harris had a role change that no one knew about, and were unsure would continue. Crichton? Nothing obvious to start the season but he was fighting for the starting spot in round 1.

All I'm saying is the likelihood of landing on a player who will start averaging 60+ is pretty low (that is priced sub 50) without any obvious role/position changes.