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    Post by SandroTilocca Thu Feb 25, 2021 6:26 pm

    Rabbits21 wrote:

    I am much more likely to punt on Harper than Hoy. Harper if fullback round 1 would get DPP as well.

    Tommy T could be likely he’s not back til round 5 or 6 or so and when he’s back he could break down again quickly.

    Suli has had the lefranc injury or whatever it’s called  to his foot the one Horse and Brimson had. Apparently Suli is still a few weeks away.

    At full strength obviously Tommy T, D. Walker and Suli make the Manly team, but the probability  of one of them being/getting injured is high which means Harper would keep his spot.

    I don’t see Brad Parker is a threat to Harper, I don’t rate Parker and Manly got Harper transferred from the Dogs last year to play more first grade rather than just be playing in reserve grade.

    So yeah there is some risk there but I’m keen.

    Had an avg of 42.8 at centre from 4 games for Manly last year, yes that was with 3 tries but there is still upside!


    Suli is named in their trial team this weekend
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    Post by filthridden Thu Feb 25, 2021 6:28 pm

    my tv broke wrote:

    His top players have been rested but i wouldnt say there is silly buggers about anyyhing else there except for the fact it doesnt suit peoples fantasy aspirations

    I mean its as meaningful/meaningless as every other trial team named.

    Hey mate, come on I think everyone in this thread knows better than a 15 year veteran NRL coach.
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    Post by mattnz Thu Feb 25, 2021 6:35 pm

    filthridden wrote:Is it time for Milchy to post his daily starting-second-rowers-minutes post?
    Doesnt apply to trial matches where 2 players are in consideration for 1 spot
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    Post by filthridden Thu Feb 25, 2021 6:47 pm

    mattnz wrote:
    Doesnt apply to trial matches where 2 players are in consideration for 1 spot

    Ah, my bad. Thought you were making a prediction for the season.
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    Post by Rabbits21 Thu Feb 25, 2021 6:51 pm

    mattnz wrote:
    Will be really surprised if Aloiai isnt starting prop round 1, also named on the bench. Gos and Davey probably get 40 minutes each, winner takes all and we know how that will go. Davey is a stud, Gos is a dud.

    Mate they won’t get 40mins each, Des doesn’t do that with his second rowers, they play really big mins. Des also doesn’t use his bench forwards for many mins.

    I’m calling it now no way they play 40 each Davey and Gosie.

    We may not know who is starting though til an hour before Manly play as Gosie could be named to start but then when final lists come out Davey could be the one starting or vice versa....
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    Post by Rabbits21 Thu Feb 25, 2021 6:58 pm

    https://www.nrl.com/news/2021/02/25/the-conversation-behind-traceys-shift-to-fullback/

    Connor Tracey has watched videos of Jack Wighton and Cameron Munster playing fullback at the start of their NRL careers and believes he can have a similar impact in Cronulla's No.1 jersey.

    After playing 16 matches for the Sharks last year at five-eighth, halfback or as an interchange playmaker, Tracey approached Cronulla coach John Morris and said he felt his game was suited to the fullback role.

    Morris had similar thoughts and Tracey has spent the pre-season training almost exclusively at fullback with Will Kennedy, while Luke Metcalf has been alternating been fullback and halfback after his return from Manly.

    "I have been thinking about it for the last few years but you have got to train for a full pre-season there to give it a real crack and I have been doing that this year so I am looking forward to that challenge," Tracey said.

    "I talked to 'Bomber' [Morris] about it before pre-season. I saw there was an opportunity there, and he had the same idea. I said 'can I do some work at fullback', and he said, 'yeah, I was thinking of chucking you in there'.

    "It was funny that we both had the same idea and I have pretty much trained there all pre-season."

    Tracey played juniors for De La Salle, whose ground is opposite PointsBet Stadium at Woolooware, and he was a fullback until shifting to five-eighth when he advanced to Cronulla's Harold Matthews Cup team as a 15-year-old.

    The 24-year-old didn't play a game for three seasons after rupturing his ACL in 2015 and suffering two recurrences at training but finally made his NRL debut in 2019 with South Sydney.

    Returning to the Sharks last season, he played four of the first five rounds and then made 12 consecutive appearances at the end of the season – the last four in the halves after Shaun Johnson suffered a knee injury.

    With Johnson sidelined for the early part of the season Moylan is set to partner Chad Townsend in the halves, with Braydon Trindall, Metcalf and Tracey other options.

    However fullback is Tracey's preferred position and he hopes to have a similar impact to Wighton and Munster when they wore the No.1 jersey for Canberra and Melbourne respectively.

    "It was good to start a few games at five-eighth last season and I really enjoyed that but I probably think fullback suits my game more so I am looking forward to giving that a crack," Tracey said.

    "Guys like Jack Wighton and Cameron Munster started as fullbacks, and the two positions are pretty much interchangeable in the modern game. I always look at video of guys who play similar to me, just to get bits from their game, and those are two I look up to, for sure.

    "I have always been a running five-eighth and I think that side of my game comes out more at fullback. You get more opportunities around the ruck, so it is good."

    Tracey has been named on the bench for Saturday night's trial against Canterbury at Netstrata Jubillee Stadium, with Kennedy to start at fullback.

    Metcalf is also in the extended squad after returning to Cronulla from Manly, where he spent two seasons learning from star halfback Daly Cherry-Evans and fullback Tom Trbojevic.

    "I couldn't thank Chez [Cherry-Evans] enough because he is a good role model for me, and he took me under his wing a little bit and helped me with my kicking game and things in defence or to look for in attack," Metcalf said.

    "For a young kid coming up it was good. He doesn't care how old you are he will teach you a lot. I asked him a thousand questions so I think I probably annoyed him a bit but he was really good and he knew I wanted to learn.

    "Last year I played a lot of fullback and I learned under Tom, who is one of the best fullbacks in the game."

    The 21-year-old came through Cronulla's development pathways under Morris and played alongside Tieg Wilton, Jesse Ramien, Blayke Brailey, Ronaldo Mulitalo and Sione Katoa so it was an easy decision to join the Sharks.

    "Bomber is good for me because I had him from under-15s all the way through," Metcalf said.

    "He encourages you to do what you are good at. If you have a good running game or you are good at certain things he encourages you to do more of that, he doesn't try to take you away from what you are good at."

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    Post by mintotheimmortal Thu Feb 25, 2021 7:01 pm

    Rabbits21 wrote:

    Mate they won’t get 40mins each, Des doesn’t do that with his second rowers, they play really big mins. Des also doesn’t use his bench forwards for many mins.

    I’m calling it now no way they play 40 each Davey and Gosie.

    We may not know who is starting though til an hour before Manly play as Gosie could be named to start but then when final lists come out Davey could be the one starting or vice versa....

    I think theyre saying they’ll split 40/40 in the trial match not round 1
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    Post by Rabbits21 Thu Feb 25, 2021 7:05 pm

    https://www.nrl.com/news/2021/02/25/turpin-excited-to-make-broncos-no.9-his-own/

    Broncos hooker Jake Turpin says while it was sad to see Andrew McCullough depart, the chance to make the Brisbane No.9 jersey his own after an injury-ruined 2020 season has him excited for footy to start.

    The 24-year-old looked the next long-term option after a breakout 2019 season and McCullough's departure to the Knights.

    Three rounds into last season those plans went out the window when he suffered a fractured tibia and missed the next eight games, and injury struck again when a fractured hand kept him out of the last six games.

    McCullough then returned briefly to the club during the off-season before taking up a long-term deal at the Dragons, paving the way for Turpin to make the position his own in 2021.

    "Macca had to do what he had to do for his family and his future and as sad as it was to see I'm very excited to step up there, take that role and make it mine," the Ipswich Brothers junior told NRL.com.

    "I got given that jersey the last couple of years. Now it's mine I want to put every foot forward I can."

    This Saturday's Redcliffe trial against the Cowboys will be Turpin's first hit-out since round 15, and gives him a chance to resume building on-field combinations with fullback Jamayne Isaako and halfback Tom Dearden.

    Brodie Croft will fill in for Anthony Milford (broken hand), though Milford is expected to be fit for round one.

    "This will be my first game for a while too with all my injuries last year," Turpin added.

    "I think Jamayne will get first crack [at fullback], he's been training there all pre-season. He's a very exciting player when he's on. He's very skilful and he's a real good runner of the ball.

    "With our halves, Milly and Tommy Dearden are the two at the moment then you've got Crofty, too. We're in a good spot with our halves, we've got some really good players there, they're excited to play the trials and into round one.

    You look at our team, we have some skilful and exciting players, some players that have been around even though it's a very young team, they've been playing NRL for a few seasons now so they know what it's all about.

    "It's time to stop the talk, we'll go out there and show what we can do because the last two years haven't been the best but we're excited to get out there.

    "Everyone's keen to get out there and put together what we've learned with our new coach."

    Turpin was full of praise for Kevin Walters, who he said had refreshed the group after a troubled 2020 campaign that finished with the wooden spoon.

    "The year we had last year we probably needed a refreshing thing to scrap last year and bring the new year round," he said.

    "There's no better way of doing it than with a new coach I guess. Kevvie's fun to be around too, which is really good.

    "He's brought that winning culture to the club, which is where such a big powerhouse club should be at so we're pretty excited to kick the season off."
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    Post by Rabbits21 Thu Feb 25, 2021 7:07 pm

    mintotheimmortal wrote:

    I think theyre saying they’ll split 40/40 in the trial match not round 1

    Sorry meant upvote that but hit down instead.

    My apologies if that’s the case.
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    Post by Camo123 Thu Feb 25, 2021 7:08 pm

    Rabbits21 wrote:
    tracey:

    That's a lot of words to say I'm not going to be FB in R1
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    Post by Ramitinmyhaaas Thu Feb 25, 2021 7:10 pm

    I'm lazy. Can someone please provide a summary for these articles hahaha
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    Post by Rabbits21 Thu Feb 25, 2021 7:12 pm

    SandroTilocca wrote:


    Suli is named in their trial team this weekend
    He’s not gonna play!
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    Post by Rabbits21 Thu Feb 25, 2021 7:13 pm

    Camo123 wrote:
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    That's a lot of words to say I'm not going to be FB in R1
    If he performs really well though this weekend he could get it. I think it’s between Kennedy and him.

    He could be fantasy relevant at some point. I think it’s good to get an insight.
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    Post by Snatchpato Thu Feb 25, 2021 7:32 pm

    Rabbits21 wrote:

    Sorry meant upvote that but hit down instead.

    My apologies if that’s the case.
    Upvoted for balance.

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    Post by Finger Puppet Mafia Thu Feb 25, 2021 7:49 pm

    multiple.scoregasms wrote:

    The spot in my squad was always Manly second rower rather than Davey specifically

    Gosi is such a plodder though. PPM is sub par.


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    Post by Lemmy KGB Thu Feb 25, 2021 7:57 pm

    Wish I could get Kayo
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    Post by Finger Puppet Mafia Thu Feb 25, 2021 8:36 pm

    If Davey doesn't become an option onTLT another one that might pop up is Wadell. There are some rumours about Josh Jackson moving into the middle and if Wadell gets an edge he is priced at 32 but averages 43 in games playing over 60min. I don't know where that puts Elliot though, who I rate as possibly their most important player in their team.
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    Post by Welshy Thu Feb 25, 2021 8:43 pm

    Finger Puppet Mafia wrote:If Davey doesn't become an option onTLT another one that might pop up is Wadell. There are some rumours about Josh Jackson moving into the middle and if Wadell gets an edge he is priced at 32 but averages 43 in games playing over 60min. I don't know where that puts Elliot though, who I rate as possibly their most important player in their team.

    I'm pretty sure Jackson was talked about moving to lock in the event Elliott was suspended. Didn't he get off with a no suspension and therapy instead?

    Dogs should be lining up

    Jackson
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    Post by standard-issue Thu Feb 25, 2021 8:48 pm

    easytiger wrote:I've been thinking about the likelihood of Laurie taking the FLB spot and MBye (who seems very likely to be FLB come round 1) shifting to 14 utility - it all seems to make good sense as a fan.

    But then reality comes in to gatecrash the MBye utility party;
    - The last time MBye played off the interchange bench was Round 19 in 2014.
    - His last 126 games have all been in the starting 13 (albeit at Fullback, Center, Five-eighth, Half, Hooker in that time).
    Regardless the position, he always starts, and barring injury he plays 80 every time.

    So, the way I see it, the only likely roads to Laurie being the starting Fullback is;

    A) Missing Centre: Roberts out due to injury/off-field issues (possible), Leilua injury/suspension ( Shocked) - Hoffman/Talau could be the fix though.
    MBye selected at Centre in 59% of games under Madge.

    B) Hooker: Liddle down (unfortunately very likely); would Simpkin start AND play 80? - no other specialists (or Elijah Taylor) in the squad.
    This suggests MBye is in the Hooker contingency plan. He has had 1 start at Hooker in his 32 games under Maguire.

    C) Halves: Doueihi/Brooks injury/failure to perform - Walters & Madden are the main cover here.
    MBye hasn't played in the halves for over 3 years - and seems the most unlikely position.

    Incidentally, MBye has been selected at Fullback in 38% of his games under Madge. It's never been exactly successful, but with a new halves pairing and a relatively inexperienced Hooker, it may long stay as the preferred option simply due to inexperience.

    Conclusion: IMO Laurie & Simpkin both have the most talent for their respective positions, but there really doesn't seem like many scenarios early on where they could have good Job Security to allow for success. If the Tigers tank early this season then that may be their best avenue (the Tigers play five top-8 teams in the first six rounds).

    If we tank early would be awesome to see Laurie given a crack at 5/8 I reckon. Thought he looked fantastic running at the line. I don't think he had a single kick though, which isn't great Fantasy wise.

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    Post by Chucky Thu Feb 25, 2021 8:58 pm

    White Lightning wrote:Re Harper I was reading on the Manly forum that he was actually going to be 1 of the starting ctr's round 1 so when Turbo returns he will just go to starting ctr.
    I’m not one to state my opinions as though they’re facts, but I would be very surprised if a full strength side does not have Walker and Suli as centres.
    I also hope that Davey gets it over Gosiewski. He is rather ordinary.
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