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    Post by Teeth Eater Tue Jul 13, 2021 8:14 pm

    Shady2K wrote:1 trade Peachey to Haas

    2nd trade probably hold. Can do Gamble to Murray/Mahoney/Cook but think Gamble can hit a 50 and not worth the marginal upgrade just yet. Gamble can also make a bit more cash for next week when everyone's fresh. Murray and Cook off Origin against an easy opponent could get an early shower and Mahoney back from an injury

    Anything wrong with that logic?

    Sounds logical to me. First trade full of sex appeal, assuming Haas good to go after Origin, and I'd definitely be holding second trade for reasons you state. Like you say, Gamble likely to score well and all three of those guys can easily be sat on for more clarity next week.
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    Post by Welshy Tue Jul 13, 2021 8:14 pm

    Fortitude wrote:

    Tossing up similar type of question.

    I want to bring in Haas, was going to do it for Harris/JFH/fog

    Other options are chn, afb. Issue with these is it uses up more coin.

    For what it’s worth, if I was you I’d go brailey, Turpin, arey, fog, SJ

    I’m that order.

    Thanks mate

    only issue with moving Brailey/Turps is they are the back up for each other. If turps was nailed on 80 all rest of season I'd be happy enough and Brailey will find some form soon

    I'm thinking one of the halves although one will go for Cleary later

    I'd let JFH go in your scenario mate
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    Post by Honey Badger Tue Jul 13, 2021 8:15 pm

    Welshy wrote:Worth trading any of the following out for Haas?

    Turpin/Brailey/Moses/ARey/SJ/Fog

    Depends on the balance of your team but you wouldn't want to be stuck with Turpin and no trades if Paix actually starts taking minutes off him
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    Post by Liverpool_Bulldog Tue Jul 13, 2021 8:15 pm

    God my bench is an absolute mess this week. Nice position but will make a mistake for sure
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    Post by Shady2K Tue Jul 13, 2021 8:17 pm

    Teeth Eater wrote:

    Sounds logical to me. First trade full of sex appeal, assuming Haas good to go after Origin, and I'd definitely be holding second trade for reasons you state. Like you say, Gamble likely to score well and all three of those guys can easily be sat on for more clarity next week.

    Cheers Slug
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    Post by Teeth Eater Tue Jul 13, 2021 8:22 pm

    Shady2K wrote:

    Cheers Slug

    lol.

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    Post by Welshy Tue Jul 13, 2021 8:35 pm

    Honey Badger wrote:

    Depends on the balance of your team but you wouldn't want to be stuck with Turpin and no trades if Paix actually starts taking minutes off him

    Exactly what I said above mate current side with 6 trades and 200k left

    Turpin
    Harris*, AFB, IPap
    Crichton, Fifita
    SJ, Moses
    Averillo, Bird
    Ponga, Tedesco, Walsh

    Fog
    Arey
    CHN
    Taumalolo*

    Brailey
    Radley
    Verrills
    Kelly

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    Post by Ponga Yeo the Mann Tue Jul 13, 2021 8:36 pm

    Snatchpato wrote:Some notes I made from a Podcast "The Weekly Rub Down" (a supercoach POD) which had Brien the NRL Physio on:

    - Brien is more concerned some injuries than others. Injuries like rib damage (D. Saifiti), shoudler damage (Cleary, Tohu, Mahoney), and foot injuries (RFM) are more likely to be reinjured purely due to the nature of NRL and the fact they'll get bashed around during the game.

    - Brien mentioned that Turbo (and most recovering from hamstring injuries) need to do a "quota" of sprints per week to ensure recovery goes well. He indicated that he'd expect Turbo (might) back up during an origin week, or to generally not be rested before finals due to actual game time being a great way to get in this "quota" of sprint minutes under his belt. He mentioned that data shows that people who don't get in their quota of sprints have a higher chance of reinjury.

    - Brien expects Best to return more like round 20-21 than 23-24 (probably more relevent for those playing draft).

    - Re above, typically players returning from syndesmosis injuries typically have no performance decrease upon return (cited To'o, Tupou, Hopoate, and Arrow all returning from these injuries and on aggregate having just as good if not better peformance upon return).

    - Brien isn't worried about Luai's injury at all saying that most of those MCL injuries are from bad luck in a tackle, and the risk of re-injury is the same risk for a normal player, indicating that Luai will be 100% upon return.

    - Finally they talked about Papy, and the fact that Brien is quietly concerned about bringing him in. He suggested that if Papy cops another head knock during a game (which is of course possible for any player, any time) the Storm might just say fuck it and call his season. Worth considering for those looking for a Hynes replacement, maybe worth considering other options.

    All in all a great POD, very much worth a listen. @Ponga Yeo the Mann if you have any insights into my summary or the POD itself it'd be awesome to hear your thoughts as well.

    Nothing too major. You’d be surprised by how many players play through low grade AC jt injuries and even the odd rib fracture with cortisone injections.typically depends on the importance of the game though.

    For turbo: they track running data and even amount and lengths of sprints really well these days at training and games. They’ve found the best exercise for hammy tear prevention is called a Nordic but the real gold standard is a high repetitive sprint volume. I still think he’s a prime candidate for a rest this week but they may give him 60ish

    MCLs are easy ones to strap the crap out of which helps

    Tight rope surgeries have a pretty no frills recovery and less impairment than your normal lateral ankle sprains. First 10m and jump height typically reduced for a few months but lateral movement isn’t really effected. I’ve worked with bradman and he’s a beast but has been plagued by injuries even through juniors

    Concussions are far harder to get a read on. From my experience even the specialists are relying on symptoms to resolve naturally rather than any major intervention. A lot of money to be told to rest.

    Had one lucky story where an SG ball player who is crazy tough got concussed and I brought him off the do his HIA. Had what he described as minor neck pain. Thankfully 1. he failed his HIA and therefore couldn’t go back on. And 2. his symptoms were bad enough for me to send him to a Sydney hospital instead of coming home on the team bus because he had a neck fracture that a decent knock to could have displaced and potentially paralyzed him. When I say his X-ray I nearly shat myself
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    Post by robelgordo Tue Jul 13, 2021 8:39 pm

    Moanaman wrote:Hmmm dilemma time..... Averillo is crashing and burning and now has a B/E of 85. It's another CTR trade but I think I'm going to trade him after being in my team from round 1. Your thoughts??

    TU Trade that scrub
    TD He'll come right m8

    I think this is really situational. Number of trades left, is it to another CTR, is it to a gun, etc.
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    Post by Liverpool_Bulldog Tue Jul 13, 2021 8:46 pm

    After Peachey to Fifita i have 8 trades and 624k and this team

    Brailey
    Haas, Lodge, Radley
    Fifita, Wilton
    SJ, ARey
    Burton, Olam
    Hynes, Teddy, Mitchell

    Fog, Moses, Tupouniua, Watson
    Schuster, Walsh, Verrills, Pappy

    Contemplating something like Lodge to Murray


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    Post by Fortitude Tue Jul 13, 2021 8:49 pm

    Welshy wrote:

    Thanks mate

    only issue with moving Brailey/Turps is they are the back up for each other. If turps was nailed on 80 all rest of season I'd be happy enough and Brailey will find some form soon

    I'm thinking one of the halves although one will go for Cleary later

    I'd let JFH go in your scenario mate

    I have a soft spot for JFH has just been rock solid. Love watching him play to
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    Post by Moanaman Tue Jul 13, 2021 8:59 pm

    robelgordo wrote:

    I think this is really situational. Number of trades left, is it to another CTR, is it to a gun, etc.

    Fuck all, yes another CTR, probably Gagai.....

    As a wise cow once said, B/E is not a reason to buy a player, but it is a very good reason to sell one...

    My team is...

    Hunt
    lolo Ipap Cheese
    Fifi Angus
    Hughes Johnston
    Ramien Averillo
    Walsh Johnston Turbo

    Tedesco Hynes Mahoney Tohu
    Watson Curran Verrills Jet

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    Post by filthridden Tue Jul 13, 2021 9:11 pm

    Ponga Yeo the Mann wrote:

    Nothing too major. You’d be surprised by how many players play through low grade AC jt injuries and even the odd rib fracture with cortisone injections.typically depends on the importance of the game though.

    For turbo: they track running data and even amount and lengths of sprints really well these days at training and games. They’ve found the best exercise for hammy tear prevention is called a Nordic but the real gold standard is a high repetitive sprint volume. I still think he’s a prime candidate for a rest this week but they may give him 60ish

    MCLs are easy ones to strap the crap out of which helps

    Tight rope surgeries have a pretty no frills recovery and less impairment than your normal lateral ankle sprains. First 10m and jump height typically reduced for a few months but lateral movement isn’t really effected. I’ve worked with bradman and he’s a beast but has been plagued by injuries even through juniors

    Concussions are far harder to get a read on. From my experience even the specialists are relying on symptoms to resolve naturally rather than any major intervention. A lot of money to be told to rest.

    Had one lucky story where an SG ball player who is crazy tough got concussed and I brought him off the do his HIA. Had what he described as minor neck pain. Thankfully 1. he failed his HIA and therefore couldn’t go back on. And 2. his symptoms were bad enough for me to send him to a Sydney hospital instead of coming home on the team bus because he had a neck fracture that a decent knock to could have displaced and potentially paralyzed him. When I say his X-ray I nearly shat myself

    Starting to incorporate them into my weekly routines.

    What're your thoughts on hill sprints?
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    Post by Fortitude Tue Jul 13, 2021 9:15 pm

    filthridden wrote:

    Starting to incorporate them into my weekly routines.

    What're your thoughts on hill sprints?

    They’re much funnier going down then up
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    Post by Bethany_B Tue Jul 13, 2021 9:47 pm

    Thoughts on what to do with the 2nd trade?

    First trade is Brailey to Ipap, and I'm 100% doing this one.

    My plan was to go Tohu to Fifita for the 2nd trade but with Tohu in the 21, I'm hesitant to do it.

    What I'm thinking of doing is going Suaalii to Kobe Hetherington this week (cashout and starting lock at Brisbane), which leaves me 152k, which is hopefully enough to go Hynes to Fifita next week (Fifita's BE is high enough that this should hopefully work)
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    Post by danseels1985 Tue Jul 13, 2021 9:52 pm

    Any thoughts on what to do here? I’m already set on Jones to Fifita which leaves this team

    3 trades 103k

    Brailey
    Haas Crichton AFB
    Fifita Matterson
    DCE SJ
    Olam Burton
    Teddy Turbo Walsh

    Moses
    Fogarty
    ARey
    CHN

    Hynes
    Crichton
    Verrills
    Savage

    Tempted to do Matto to Mahoney,thoughts? And yeah I know I’m gonna run out of trades
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    Post by Aardvark Tue Jul 13, 2021 9:59 pm

    Fox sports = a bunch of apoplectic & absolute Kents working up a head of steam about other people occasionally acting like Kents.
    The moralising, hypocrisy and manufactured middle aged fury are next level. Don’t watch often as it riles me up and then I get ashamed that I might, in my outrage, in some way be acting like that shower of fuck knuckles.

    Edit : mainly I really hate Ray Hadley
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    Post by Ponga Yeo the Mann Tue Jul 13, 2021 10:07 pm

    filthridden wrote:

    Starting to incorporate them into my weekly routines.

    What're your thoughts on hill sprints?

    Hate them for me..

    But for you they are sometimes a necessary evil. Hamstring sliders, nordics, razor curls, single leg bridges with your foot up on a step/couch etc combined with building up your sprinting volume in a range of ways (direction changes, varied distance etc) is the key
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    Post by Teeth Eater Tue Jul 13, 2021 10:28 pm

    I actually couldn't be less sure about what to do this week. If all my green dots stay green all is sweet and I can just wait until next week to make heavy decisions.

    But Munster, Teddy and Turbo concern me greatly this week. I can cover Munster with Schuster/Brooks, but if both Teddy and Turbo are out I need two WFBs. And I also have Bird (with Averillo) and no CTR cover, so I should factor that into this week's decision, and I am thinking of going for someone like a Dom Young to get that CTR/WFB coverage in place of Suaalii.

    Alternatively, I could use a big chunk of my bank and go for Gagai, but playing in the last game I'd have to be 100% certain he's starting this week, and I am not sure it's a wise way to spend money when I have aspirations to bring Cleary and Tohu back in my team at some point. Also, if I need two WFBs this week I could do Suaalii/A.Kelly to Ponga/Dom Young... if Ponga plays. I don't mind spending funds in that manner. If he plays.

    Truly don't know. I do need to wait and see what happens with Origin and then hope we get clear info in the aftermath about who backs up or not.

    If all my green dots played this week, I'd actually look to punt Brooks for DCE/Ponga/Lolo/Koro... but the uncertainty makes it hard to think of something sexy like that.

    Anyway, that's just the contents of what's behind my face. Sorry for the outpouring. As you were...

    (team is;)

    Brailey
    Ipap / Haas / Chrichton
    Fifita / Schuster
    Munster / Johnson
    Averillo / Bird
    Turbo / Teddy / Walsh

    Macca / Watson / Brooks / Tolman
    Matto / Verrills / A.Kelly / Suaalii
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    Post by robelgordo Tue Jul 13, 2021 10:32 pm

    Moanaman wrote:

    Fuck all, yes another CTR, probably Gagai.....

    I think you need more than “fuck all” to be considering it.

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