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    Post by No Worries Thu Feb 24, 2022 9:05 am

    Moanaman wrote:Does anyone have a copy of the old NRLFF banner. I remember it being Yellow and Blue

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    Post by rhinoceroo Thu Feb 24, 2022 9:16 am

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    Take a look at Cook with/without Reynolds. I know there is a difference between losing your halfback mid season for a couple of games and having an entire preseason to prepare but the drop is so significant it turned me away

    A surprising stat, so I looked at it further. According to mtvb's site, Cook has only played three games without Reynolds in the last three seasons. Last year it was a 50-point towelling vs the Storm where Cook was Souths' top-scorer with 50. The two before that were in 2019 with teammates such as Dean Britt and Kyle Turner. Not sure how much can be read into it.
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    Post by multiple.scoregasms Thu Feb 24, 2022 9:46 am

    mattnz wrote:I like the iPap idea, but if Fifita is starting and probably playing 80 most weeks based on reports on his fitness, he is only $18k more.

    Was significantly impacted by injury late in the season, and playing off the bench, and already has the TB nerf discounted from his price and averages over 2 offloads per game.

    If there was 1 player that could be undervalued and go on a Cleary / Turbo style run this season, it would be a fit, uninjured Fifita. Those 2 factors were the only things stopping him from being at that level. If he starts playing 80 with full effort through each game of the season, he will elevate to uber-gun.

    He also scored 17 tries in 21 games. Fifita is either going to be the greatest try scoring forward we have ever seen by a long way or he is going to come back to the pack

    I'm not sure which is more likely
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    Post by multiple.scoregasms Thu Feb 24, 2022 9:48 am

    rhinoceroo wrote:

    A surprising stat, so I looked at it further. According to mtvb's site, Cook has only played three games without Reynolds in the last three seasons. Last year it was a 50-point towelling vs the Storm where Cook was Souths' top-scorer with 50. The two before that were in 2019 with teammates such as Dean Britt and Kyle Turner. Not sure how much can be read into it.

    Didn't do too much digging after a surface level look but looks enough to ignore the sample
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    Post by mattnz Thu Feb 24, 2022 9:50 am

    multiple.scoregasms wrote:

    He also scored 17 tries in 21 games. Fifita is either going to be the greatest try scoring forward we have ever seen by a long way or he is going to come back to the pack

    I'm not sure which is more likely

    He was having to create his own opportunities most of the time, running through 2 or 3 tacklers. If his half realises how to put him into space he will have a Turbo-esque season. You would hope that Holbrook is building that into the game plan.

    Interesting facts:
    - Fifita is still only 21, (interestingly 2 years younger than Fermor)
    - He is still young and on the massive improvement curve, each year better than the last.
    - Turbo and Cleary had their breakout fantasy seasons when 23 and 24. Fifita is massively ahead of both at the same age.
    - Short of injury, Fifita will always be nearly impossible to stop 10m from the try line, in the same way that Turbo showed last season. He just needs the ball in his hands as much as Turbo did.
    - It is easy to pinpoint the weaknesses in Fifita's scoring for significant improvement. If he has his fitness right and Holbrook organises the team to play to his strengths the sky is the limit. For potential, no other forwards come close.


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    Post by my tv broke Thu Feb 24, 2022 9:52 am

    mattnz wrote:

    He was having to create his own opportunities most of the time, running through 2 or 3 tacklers. If his half realises how to put him into space he will have a Turbo-esque season. You would hope that Holbrook is building that into the game plan.

    lol!

    There is a reason he has to run through two or three tacklers.

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    Post by my tv broke Thu Feb 24, 2022 9:55 am

    rhinoceroo wrote:

    Cook has only played three games without Reynolds in the last three seasons.

    I am reasonably worried Reynolds actually has one of those 'injury plagued' seasons that would always put fantasy players off him
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    Post by rhinoceroo Thu Feb 24, 2022 9:57 am

    mattnz wrote:

    He was having to create his own opportunities most of the time, running through 2 or 3 tacklers. If his half realises how to put him into space he will have a Turbo-esque season. You would hope that Holbrook is building that into the game plan.

    Running through two or three tacklers to get your tries is how you rack up big fantasy scores though. The last thing you want is him strolling through gaps instead...

    (I do actually agree with you that Fifta's ceiling is huge, and he'll be horrible to watch for non-owners)
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    Post by rhinoceroo Thu Feb 24, 2022 9:59 am

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    I am reasonably worried Reynolds actually has one of those 'injury plagued' seasons that would always put fantasy players off him

    Yeah, I was kind of amazed how few games he's missed in the past couple of years when looking up those Cook/ARey stats. Having owned him more than once over the years there's a few times per game that you're worried after he gets tackled that he might never play again.
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    Post by mattnz Thu Feb 24, 2022 10:03 am

    rhinoceroo wrote:

    Running through two or three tacklers to get your tries is how you rack up big fantasy scores though. The last thing you want is him strolling through gaps instead...

    (I do actually agree with you that Fifta's ceiling is huge, and he'll be horrible to watch for non-owners)

    He is still going to be trampling guys to get to the try line often. The set up plays where they are actually getting him in a gap would be additional tries, not instead of.

    It was unbelievably frustrating as a Fifita owner last season, when Titans would have a set of 6 on the goal line and Fifita didn't touch the ball. Huge upside when they get the game plan right.
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    Post by rhinoceroo Thu Feb 24, 2022 10:08 am

    mattnz wrote:

    He is still going to be trampling guys to get to the try line often. The set up plays where they are actually getting him in a gap would be additional tries, not instead of.

    That's not really how it works though. Fifita attracts the defenders, the other guy hits the gap that creates. He still has a hundred ways to make havoc with the ball in his hand but I doubt "crafting space for Big Dave" plays a big part in Titans' training.
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    Post by Moanaman Thu Feb 24, 2022 10:16 am

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    @Moanaman Why did this get 2 down votes, did I miss something ??

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    Post by Milchcow Thu Feb 24, 2022 10:18 am


    Fifita is obviously going to rack up some big scores this year, and if there was no salary cap he'd be in every team.

    But its a matter of if he provides value for money compared to the other big names given there is limited room for guns in your starting 17
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    Post by Welshy Thu Feb 24, 2022 10:23 am

    Fifitas ceiling is pretty much his ‘when playing over 70 minute average’

    Pretty much comes down to how many full games he plays, tough to improve on that try scoring record
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    Post by Pookus McFly Thu Feb 24, 2022 10:27 am

    Got the 4th pick in my draft :/

    The first three picks were obvious.

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    Post by Welshy Thu Feb 24, 2022 10:28 am

    Pookus McFly wrote:Got the 4th pick in my draft :/

    The first three picks were obvious.


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    Post by The Dolphin Conspiracies Thu Feb 24, 2022 10:28 am

    Milchcow wrote:

    First thing is that if you put ownership percentage after a player in trying to justify them, I automatically pay slightly less attention to

    I know a lot of people enjoy having PODs, but I prefer picking the good players. Ownership percentage should have no bearing on evaluating a players worth.

    First I justified this on the basis that they had the potential to go larger. Not about them being PODs and it is arrogant to suggest otherwise



    Your claim is that McInnes can easily repeat his record-high scoring from 2020.
    You also claim that there is little chance Cleary can repeat his record-high scoring from 2021
    What is the difference between the 2?

    In my mind McInnes has more risk given he has m oved to a new club. One that has better middles and less of a need for him to do all the work.
    I still might start with him, the discount he got for missing 2021 was relatively small, but nonetheless exists, so he can drop his average and still be value.


    Secondly, you have just argued why selecting McInnes is likely to be more of a value pick than Cleary and Thirdly, his rise was all base stats and not as significant as Cleary's. Cleary's base stats rose by very little in 2021 and as such (like Trbo) not very sustainable


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    Post by Pookus McFly Thu Feb 24, 2022 10:31 am

    Welshy wrote:

    CMC or DFifi

    Oh see I assumed DFifi would be the auto third pick.
    I dont play a lot of draft, maybe im doing it wrong.
    Do we have a thread where people discuss draft ideas? I gather the strategy is slightly different with so many good MIDs but HK and HLF rarer
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    Post by rhinoceroo Thu Feb 24, 2022 10:33 am

    Manu at 6 in Roosters trial team. Keighran and Momi centres (presumably Keighran kicks), Naiqama and Tupou wings. No Keary, Suallii or Ted though and only half a pack so not sure how much we learn.

    Tigers look near enough full-strength, except Garner and Teal aren't in squad - not sure if injured. Tuilagi starts. Roberts centre. Ofahengaue at 13 with Peachey on bench.
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    Post by Welshy Thu Feb 24, 2022 10:41 am

    @MS Liam Martin? What’s the thoughts in running him mate?

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