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    Post by mattnz Fri Jan 20, 2023 2:04 pm

    Honey Badger wrote:

    If i dont start with Cleary the plan would be to start with the potential Gun halves pairing of Burton and Doueihi with Hastings on the bench and look to upgrade one to Cleary after his rd 3 bye.
    Id have to keep some cash in the bank and find a captain for the first 3 rounds

    Sounds complex for little benefit. Uses a trade, while needing to retain cash and not getting the scoring from having the cash on the sidelines.
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    Post by The Dolphin Conspiracies Fri Jan 20, 2023 2:21 pm

    My approach to CTR is to play with 2 keepers all year and use the the cheapies as cover for the byes.

    I am planning to go with Suli and Bird from the outset on the basis that very few people will select them because of the first round bye and neither will anyone bother prioritising CTR for an upgrade. If they score anything like they have the potential to it will be a great POD
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    Post by Holzman Fri Jan 20, 2023 2:39 pm

    Rabbits21 wrote:Is anyone tempted to not start with Cleary or Hynes but go with Murray and put the C on him? Alternative could be go with Hastings and Burton/Douiehi in the halves.

    Also Wilton I’m looking at priced at 37 has a 49.9 avg when starting second row. Could be a good POD. I think W. Graham might play a bench role of limited mins as a floater.

    currently doing the opposite.

    going all out in the halves with Cleary Hynes Hastings to provide a strong base for the team.

    still able to get a decent all round team on the park.

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    Post by Guest Fri Jan 20, 2023 2:43 pm

    The Dolphin Conspiracies wrote:My approach to CTR is to play with 2 keepers all year and use the the cheapies as cover for the byes.

    I am planning to go with Suli and Bird from the outset on the basis that very few people will select them because of the first round bye and neither will anyone bother prioritising CTR for an upgrade. If they score anything like they have the potential to it will be a great POD


    Is this a conspiracy Mr Conspiracies? You’re plan is to have 1.1mill in red dots for round 1 for some PODs at centre?
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    Post by Lchy Fri Jan 20, 2023 2:53 pm

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    8th and 10th best scoring halves in the game last season playing in the same team as last year and in the same position as last year…. I haven’t considered either and still won’t.

    If there was such thing as a wrong opinion, this would be it lol

    Not even considering either is plain and simple poor. If you said you didn't think Kikau/a better team would boost Burton's scores, or that Doueihi's nose is too big I could cop that because you're at least giving a reason there.
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    Post by The Dolphin Conspiracies Fri Jan 20, 2023 2:54 pm

    Genderbender wrote:


    Is this a conspiracy Mr Conspiracies? You’re plan is to have 1.1mill in red dots for round 1 for some PODs at centre?

    That is the scenario most teams will face throughout the year, especially those who select near million dollar halves. The are bye managed dots as opposed to red dots. Most years CTR cheapie cycling certainly cost coaches trades
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    Post by Holy Moly Fri Jan 20, 2023 2:57 pm

    Holzman wrote:

    yeah looking to go heavy with the Uber guns potentially.

    Just made a team with Cleary Hynes and Murray.

    Does hurt the balance of the squad though.

    For example I can run with Teddy Gilbert or Hynes CNK.

    I think having Hynes and Cleary means I can get both scores if they go big. I'd hate to just have one and the other goes on a bigger run of form. Cook is nice because he has a long stretch without a bye, he is a decent captain option and not the first choice hooker for NSW. It does take a hit in the bank, but I didn't like the other combos I've tried as much as when I have all three.

    In your scenario, I'd prefer Hynes and CNK (if he gets the fullback gig). Teddy can certainly start quiet and Gilbert is no certainty for the run on side.
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    Post by Guest Fri Jan 20, 2023 3:00 pm

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    Post by Guest Fri Jan 20, 2023 3:00 pm

    The Dolphin Conspiracies wrote:

    That is the scenario most teams will face throughout the year, especially those who select near million dollar halves. The are bye managed dots as opposed to red dots. Most years CTR cheapie cycling certainly cost coaches trades  


    It’s an intriguing concept, bye rounds will obviously play a bigger part this year than any previously. Be interesting to see how it plays out. Personally I’d rather prioritise the cash gen of the opening rounds.
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    Post by multiple.scoregasms Fri Jan 20, 2023 3:15 pm

    easytiger wrote:

    I think not starting with Cleary/Hynes is a really interesting short-term play.
    The problem for me is that Murray has had one season for a 60 average in a role where 60 averages are pretty uncommon.
    Then add in his slight head knock injury giving him a 1 min game last year and 16 min game in 2021 - if that happened while everyone else has the C on Cleary/Hynes - it'd put you a long long way behind.

    I recall back in '19 when Taumalolo was considered a fringe Captaincy alternative (a bit like Murray this year) and he started with a solid 75, but followed it in Round 2 with a 17 in 34 minutes, out for 6 weeks...
    The people who went that way, were instantly a good chunk behind the pack and then there's that risk of over-trading/high-risk trading to try to make your way back...



    That being said, if there was a clear candidate that could get within say 10 points of Cleary/Hynes and didn't have an early bye, then it's interesting to have that extra match advantage in the first 6 rounds...

    If Bateman returns the way he left he will be in the captaincy conversation
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    Post by Guest Fri Jan 20, 2023 3:28 pm

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    Post by Camo123 Fri Jan 20, 2023 3:30 pm

    Holy Moly wrote:

    I think having Hynes and Cleary means I can get both scores if they go big. I'd hate to just have one and the other goes on a bigger run of form. Cook is nice because he has a long stretch without a bye, he is a decent captain option and not the first choice hooker for NSW. It does take a hit in the bank, but I didn't like the other combos I've tried as much as when I have all three.

    In your scenario, I'd prefer Hynes and CNK (if he gets the fullback gig). Teddy can certainly start quiet and Gilbert is no certainty for the run on side.

    If you are expecting Cook to miss Origin I think that's wishful thinking. He still played off the bench in Origin 2 & 3 last year
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    Post by Cookie Monster Fri Jan 20, 2023 3:33 pm

    easytiger wrote:

    I think you are the most correct Rhinoceroo
    It seems that the vast majority of players are a pretty exact match to a 14,300 magic number when put against their 2022 average.

    Then there are the outlier players that have been manually adjusted for "reasons"

    I think Milch's MN of 14,491 is presumably the average across the whole player database when including those adjustments.

    I personally think it's more balanced to work off that 14,300 number while realising that some players have extra tariffs (e.g. Turbo with a $100k tariff chucked on him).


    You can make a case for a magic number of 14300 by looking at last years data and adjusting it for a $10,000,000 salary cap

    The magic numbers for the 23 full rounds (disregarding the 2 bye rounds) from last season average out at 13422.2
    To adjust for a 10 mill cap you have to multiply the above MN by 1.064 (10,000,000 / 9,400,000 = 1.06383)


    13422.2 x 1.064 = 14300



    Whether this is what Failhub (Genius) have actually done, I can't say for sure, but it seems reasonable
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    Post by Camo123 Fri Jan 20, 2023 3:39 pm

    The Dolphin Conspiracies wrote:

    That is the scenario most teams will face throughout the year, especially those who select near million dollar halves. The are bye managed dots as opposed to red dots. Most years CTR cheapie cycling certainly cost coaches trades  

    If you HAD to pick a gun CTR, Suli would not be it

    Bird would be the guy for floor, but Holmes would be the gun CTR to look for, with no early byes
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    Post by Holy Moly Fri Jan 20, 2023 3:40 pm

    Camo123 wrote:

    If you are expecting Cook to miss Origin I think that's wishful thinking. He still played off the bench in Origin 2 & 3 last year

    Oh shit. I didn't know even though I saw the games. Thanks for that. Means I have more cash to play with.
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    Post by mintotheimmortal Fri Jan 20, 2023 3:44 pm

    What do we think about Fifita this year? Anyone planning to start the year with him?

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    Post by Ramitinmyhaaas Fri Jan 20, 2023 4:04 pm

    Anyone like DCE again this year for 130k less than Hynes? Will absolutely dominate with Schuster beside him, obv origin a big factor and what not but DCE is always a captaincy option.
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    Post by mattnz Fri Jan 20, 2023 4:13 pm

    WT2K wrote:
    Hmm, may need to rethink Carrigan
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    Post by The Dolphin Conspiracies Fri Jan 20, 2023 4:28 pm

    Camo123 wrote:

    If you HAD to pick a gun CTR, Suli would not be it

    Bird would be the guy for floor, but Holmes would be the gun CTR to look for, with no early byes

    Suli had a higher floor than Holmes and Bird last year and has his first bye out of the way in R1. He is also 40- 60 k cheaper. I am expecting him to average 40+ and increase his value. Take of his injury affected game and he averages just 4 points less than Manu (for games at CTR only) with an equivalent floor for 170 k cheaper. Holmes and Manu will play origin. No byes between R2 and R15 and and I will be certain to have 17 players for R1. What is not to like?
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    Post by The Dolphin Conspiracies Fri Jan 20, 2023 4:31 pm

    mattnz wrote:
    Hmm, may need to rethink Carrigan

    Apparently he toured the facilities today. Could be a decision spurned by an injury to Nathan Brown

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