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    NRL Fantasy 2023 Part 4 - It's go time !

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    Post by Krump Wed Feb 22, 2023 7:33 pm

    WT2K wrote:Rothfield:
    The Sydney Roosters are in talks with the Newcastle Knights to get an immediate release for English winger Dominic Young to play in the opening round of the premiership against the Dolphins.

    News Corp can reveal the Knights have asked to swap the English Test winger for a Roosters forward.

    The Knights were keen on either Nat or Egan Butcher, which the Roosters have rejected.

    There is now talk of the Roosters offering compensation with a transfer fee.

    The Roosters signed wingers Corey Allan from the Bulldogs and Jaxson Paulo from the Rabbitohs during the off-season.

    However they are desperately keen to add Young to their roster.

    Young signed with the Roosters earlier this week from 2024 onwards.

    He said he was committed to playing out his final year for the Knights before the two clubs began negotiations for a swap.
    Id be fuming if I was a knights fan.
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    Post by Mulvy Wed Feb 22, 2023 7:34 pm

    Camo123 wrote:Francis Molo pleads guilty to DV charges

    You don't have to be made of Molo.
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    Post by rhinoceroo Wed Feb 22, 2023 7:35 pm

    my tv broke wrote:I dont see much wrong with picking a guy priced at 42 who goes at 49.

    Literally no one is nailing a squad full of 10 pt underpriced players.

    Dunno if NAS is worth picking or not but its a gamble that shouldnt really hurt too much. Looking at that roster theres gotta be solid mins (consistently) for him this season?

    If he goes off it will be because of a lot of tries

    Just feel that NAS suspension roulette is finally going to end up landing on black this year. Only a feeling... he could well keep getting away with it.
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    Post by Mulvy Wed Feb 22, 2023 7:36 pm

    easytiger wrote:

    Personally think it's a simplification, and you're bang on that it doesn't tend to ultimately work that way.

    Just a few thoughts:

    10 points of value target was based on 32? available trades.
    Of which only a proportion of which were designated as cash accumulation trades (some trades will be assembling final squad/cashouts where you don't expect to make much/ any money).
    Now there are 44? trades, it's fair to suggest that a few more will be used for both bye/ injury navigation while being used for cash accumulation. But the top end final squad target remains similar, so with more trades that 10 points target isn't necessarily as high.

    When we've had elite cows like Haas/Grant et al that make $400/500k+, it reduces that target somewhat. These often aren't available round 1 - it remains to be seen if 2023 will deliver a new fantasy star.

    Not everyone will perform to our hoped for anticipations.
    In some ways it's equally important to reduce the mares that stall, make minimal cash or even lose money.

    So it's arguable a player that is very likely to make 7 or 8 points of value (whilst being playable), is maybe a better option than a player who may make that 10 points of value if a certain projected story comes to fruition...

    Certainly a player that improves by 7 points ($100k) but does it quickly may be a better option than a player who grinds his way to $150k, but doesn't get there until mid season IMO

    Yeah quick cash is the key
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    Post by easytiger Wed Feb 22, 2023 7:40 pm

    Mulvy wrote:

    Yeah quick cash is the key

    That's pretty much the TLDR
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    Post by rhinoceroo Wed Feb 22, 2023 7:44 pm

    What's the plausible TLT curveball that will cause most "clear team" carnage?

    NAS and Tariq on the edge for Storm?
    Sorenson Panthers left edge?
    Angus in the 21 shirt?
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    Post by easytiger Wed Feb 22, 2023 7:49 pm

    L-Jimmy wrote:It's interesting that in a salary restricted game, a small club with rich owners are able to assemble an elite squad by picking up stars from larger but poorer clubs.

    Conspiracy theories aside (but not far aside), it seems a good demonstration of the importance of aligning your operation with what players want in their short careers; profile, culture, prizes all seem to matter greatly.

    And brown paper bags of course. But culture too.

    Brown paper bags aside, there's been many many comments from Roosters players and impending Roosters players about how at the Roosters they set you up for life (as well a improved profile, premiership opportunities).

    It's arguable that this gets around both the Cap and TPA's, and creates an unfair advantage, undermining the point of the salary cap.

    But philosophically I also wonder, isn't that what should be aspired to? These guys wreck their bodies and in some instances their brains through heavy collision, is it unreasonable for them to want to be taken care of in and beyond their footy career?
    Should the NRL put their foot down and say, no, you can't help players past the career, you can't help them establish businesses or upskill them?
    Or is it just something that other clubs need to get better at?
    Our can they even? Does it take a billionaire patron to make it possible?
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    Post by easytiger Wed Feb 22, 2023 7:51 pm

    rhinoceroo wrote:What's the plausible TLT curveball that will cause most "clear team" carnage?

    NAS and Tariq on the edge for Storm?
    Sorenson Panthers left edge?
    Angus in the 21 shirt?

    Turpin at 9, Cheese on the bench
    Simultaneously; Sexton/Brimson named in the halves, Boyd on the bench.

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    Post by mickspicks Wed Feb 22, 2023 7:56 pm

    rhinoceroo wrote:What's the plausible TLT curveball that will cause most "clear team" carnage?

    NAS and Tariq on the edge for Storm?
    Sorenson Panthers left edge?
    Angus in the 21 shirt?

    Alamoti named 18th man for bulldogs
    Soni Luke not named for Panthers
    Garner named with Hosking bench
    Doorey named on the bench and/or missed the 17
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    Post by The Dolphin Conspiracies Wed Feb 22, 2023 7:57 pm

    manlybeaver wrote:Nrl.com updated potential team lists and looks quite good. If stone starts at lock and Gilbert frf would be great.
    https://www.nrl.com/news/2023/01/17/your-clubs-team-talk-best-17-squad-update/
    ]

    Danny Levi - starting HOK? (319k) but still probably wont get enough minutes to make enough money
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    Post by AL Wed Feb 22, 2023 7:58 pm

    easytiger wrote:

    Turpin at 9, Cheese on the bench
    Simultaneously; Sexton/Brimson named in the halves, Boyd on the bench.


    That really would throw the cat amongst the pigeons.
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    Post by Moanaman Wed Feb 22, 2023 7:59 pm

    The Dolphin Conspiracies wrote:Danny Levi

    Never say that name three times


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    Post by Eaglestar Wed Feb 22, 2023 7:59 pm

    rhinoceroo wrote:What's the plausible TLT curveball that will cause most "clear team" carnage?

    NAS and Tariq on the edge for Storm?
    Sorenson Panthers left edge?
    Angus in the 21 shirt?

    Covid takes out all my fantasy team for round 1
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    Post by GarethEllisismyDad Wed Feb 22, 2023 8:02 pm

    The Dolphin Conspiracies wrote:
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    Danny Levi - starting HOK? (319k) but still probably wont get enough minutes to make enough money

    I’ve had my eye on this/him
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    Post by Lchy Wed Feb 22, 2023 8:04 pm

    The Dolphin Conspiracies wrote:
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    Danny Levi - starting HOK? (319k) but still probably wont get enough minutes to make enough money

    Danny "I'm better than Cameron Smith but nobody is willing to give me a shot" Levi?
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    Post by L-Jimmy Wed Feb 22, 2023 8:04 pm

    easytiger wrote:

    Brown paper bags aside, there's been many many comments from Roosters players and impending Roosters players about how at the Roosters they set you up for life (as well a improved profile, premiership opportunities).

    It's arguable that this gets around both the Cap and TPA's, and creates an unfair advantage, undermining the point of the salary cap.

    But philosophically I also wonder, isn't that what should be aspired to? These guys wreck their bodies and in some instances their brains through heavy collision, is it unreasonable for them to want to be taken care of in and beyond their footy career?
    Should the NRL put their foot down and say, no, you can't help players past the career, you can't help them establish businesses or upskill them?
    Or is it just something that other clubs need to get better at?
    Our can they even? Does it take a billionaire patron to make it possible?

    I agree with your aspiration point, and if most clubs weren't managed, funded and coached by well-meaning traditionalists with CTE we may see Storm and Roosters patterns of individual attraction becoming more common.

    Suspect that'd be a good thing
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    Post by Eaglestar Wed Feb 22, 2023 8:08 pm

    rhinoceroo wrote:What's the plausible TLT curveball that will cause most "clear team" carnage?

    NAS and Tariq on the edge for Storm?
    Sorenson Panthers left edge?
    Angus in the 21 shirt?

    All the halves in the entire universe catch covid except Milford and we forced to delete fantasy team alltogether in refusal to pick him.
    Sorry that not plausible because some would still pick him haha
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    Post by Eaglestar Wed Feb 22, 2023 8:11 pm

    The Dolphin Conspiracies wrote:
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    Danny Levi - starting HOK? (319k) but still probably wont get enough minutes to make enough money

    Going to be a long year for the Raiders signing Danny Levi if he their main hooker lol
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    Post by Camo123 Wed Feb 22, 2023 8:11 pm

    GarethEllisismyDad wrote:

    I’ve had my eye on this/him

    Hopefully you’re like Lumelume and the other eye is looking in the other direction
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    Post by robelgordo Wed Feb 22, 2023 8:18 pm

    rhinoceroo wrote:

    Just feel that NAS suspension roulette is finally going to end up landing on black this year. Only a feeling... he could well keep getting away with it.

    Didn’t they tweak the suspension rules very late last season specifically to close the loophole where NAS and JWH never get suspended because they get grade 1s for all different offences?

    Like if I committed 5 different crimes, the prosecutor and judge would never consider them in relation to one another

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