NRL Fantasy 2023 Part 11 - The case of the mistrusted team lists

Loomer wrote:

Almost went without him but joined the bandwagon. Mins/Role issue. Bye coming up and have 2 other Roosters. Rib issue worry.

Easy sell for coin maker or better prospect

Min/role issue was 2 injuries to others, the bye was always coming up, the rib issue is maybe fictional?

He was as close to a must have a week ago, either everyone was wrong, or it's a huge overreaction.

robelgordo wrote:

Min/role issue was 2 injuries to others, the bye was always coming up, the rib issue is maybe fictional?

He was as close to a must have a week ago, either everyone was wrong, or it's a huge overreaction.

Tbf I was off him for a decent part of the off-season and only started putting him in my drafts once Watson's injury was announced.

The fact that he was close to 50% owned is why I went along with it in the end, I didn't really pick him based on eye test like I did for most of my other 21 starters. Turpin's presence on the bench should have been enough for me to run for the hills but I didn't have the nerve to do it at that level of ownership

my tv broke wrote:


Its a real head scratcher for me that folks who bought a guy for 30s to 60s scoring are punting him because of a 35 first up.

Coach even said they will work him up to 80 mins. This was known.

The roosters were awful. They arent going to be awful every week. Or will they?

I am punting Garner though. Watch him score 50 in 80 mins this week hahaha

I have guys that scored worse who are staying in my team, because they got the role I was looking for. Cheese didn't get the role we bought him for and the situation just got worse with the Lodge injury. If you can swap him to a guy like Mahoney, who has at least as much upside, (63 average 2 seasons ago, priced high 40s now), did great in a team that didn't play well, doesn't have a bye for weeks and can be a season keeper with a good Origin schedule and most importantly already has the role that you would want from him.

Before anyone says Mahoney isn't scoring a try every week, he had 63 points without the try and 58 points in base stats.

mrbrownstone wrote:Thoughts on the following?

a) Just 1 trade, Garner -> Sutton

b) 2 trades, Garner and Talau to Carty & 461k or under (shortlist of Kenny/HTF/CNK)

Leaning towards the safe but boring option A at this stage.

EDIT: Just realised Garner to Carty and banking the cash is also an option. That's probably the play hey.

I currently have your option B (HTF) locked in as I needed to shore up my centres.

mrbrownstone wrote:Thoughts on the following?

a) Just 1 trade, Garner -> Sutton

b) 2 trades, Garner and Talau to Carty & 461k or under (shortlist of Kenny/HTF/CNK)

Leaning towards the safe but boring option A at this stage.

EDIT: Just realised Garner to Carty and banking the cash is also an option. That's probably the play hey.

I don't think Talau is a sell, happy with the performance on 1 leg in a beaten side. In most teams that would leave them short of WFB/CTR cover.

mattnz wrote:because they got the role I was looking for. Cheese didn't get the role we bought him for and the situation just got worse with the Lodge injury.

They lost two props to HIAs, and he had a HIA himself?

I don't know how you could expect any different to what happened on the day with the injuries they had. Wasn't any secret Robinson had said he won't play 80 mins straight up.

Literally nothing has changed since 5 days ago except that he didnt score 50+ points.

my tv broke wrote:


They lost two props to HIAs, and he had a HIA himself?

I don't know how you could expect any different to what happened on the day with the injuries they had. Wasn't any secret Robinson had said he won't play 80 mins straight up.

Literally nothing has changed since 5 days ago except that he didnt score 50+ points.

You dont have Cheese right?

robelgordo wrote:

Min/role issue was 2 injuries to others, the bye was always coming up, the rib issue is maybe fictional?

He was as close to a must have a week ago, either everyone was wrong, or it's a huge overreaction.

One thing that has changed in one week is his BE. It means his price will likely be pretty stable unless he goes really large. Most of us are playing a dodgy 17th man or dodgy wfb. If you can sure up another position whilst getting someone like Ford or Loiero who could make 100k and play an extra game in that time, then it has merit I think. Remember early cash is the best kind of cash.

Currently pondering a trade of Cheese and E.Butcher to Loiero and Tohu. Price rises have stalled and with the bye in round 4, holding them could put you behind in terms of cash generation.

Loiero to be a solid option for cash generation and a 40 point average.

Tohu knocking out a 70 mostly in base stats seems like he is back to his old form. Priced at 50, could average close to 60 going off previous years as a big minute lock.

More of a conservative option would be to hold trades or go Talau to a BMM.

Thoughts ?

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mintotheimmortal wrote:If you didn't have Loeiro and did have Garner would you trade or hold.

Looks solid to me. Just went back and watched the Storm/Eels game. Loiero played well I thought. The only time someone got past him was when they were caught short and Munster raced out of the line leaving a big hole next to Loiero for Paulo to run through. He made a couple of tackles where he raced across to lunge into a tackle ending up around the legs without dropping off. I like that as a fantasy coach, nothing worse than guys making good real life effort plays only to be given a demerit for dropping off at the last second. Seems like a no nonsense guy Bellamy should be happy with who should score 40 in base with nothing really flashy and eventually getting a try to fast track price rises. I am considering. Sims is a risk but should play middle. Bigger risk is probably in-game shuffles to centre.

Garner is probably going to burn everyone that trades him out (inc me)

EJ24 wrote:Currently pondering a trade of Cheese and E.Butcher to Loiero and Tohu. Price rises have stalled and with the bye in round 4, holding them could put you behind in terms of cash generation.

Loiero to be a solid option for cash generation and a 40 point average.

Tohu knocking out a 70 mostly in base stats seems like he is back to his old form. Priced at 50, could average close to 60 going off previous years as a big minute lock.

More of a conservative option would be to hold trades or go Talau to a BMM.

Thoughts ?

Smith to Loiero looks a decent move for cash gen.

then just hold or do something like Talau to a guy like I.Thompson.

Butcher was tracking well could easily make as much or more cash then Tohu.

All this Cheese chat has me scared to get rid of him. It’s a scary prospect indeed

my tv broke wrote:Garner is probably going to burn everyone that trades him out (inc me)

Yeah half expecting him to play 80 and score a try

Sounds about right

robelgordo wrote:

Min/role issue was 2 injuries to others, the bye was always coming up, the rib issue is maybe fictional?

He was as close to a must have a week ago, either everyone was wrong, or it's a huge overreaction.

Yes I debated going without him a lot but was spooked by high ownership. I think that was a mistake in hindsight

my tv broke wrote:


They lost two props to HIAs, and he had a HIA himself?

I don't know how you could expect any different to what happened on the day with the injuries they had. Wasn't any secret Robinson had said he won't play 80 mins straight up.

Literally nothing has changed since 5 days ago except that he didnt score 50+ points.

Turpin replaced Smith for HIA, then came back on at 28 minutes, when Lodge went off (not the Lodge HIA, a planned interchange), there had been no other HIAs at that stage. Obviously Cheese moved to lock then in a planned move.

Since that game, the situation has got worse with the Lodge injury and potentially Radley being out (more than likely).

From game 1, Turpin was intended to get what looks like 50+ minutes at HOK, with Cheese playing lock for significant periods. The bench named this week shows that this should continue. If you replace Lodge with JWH and they keep the same game plan, he still has a HOK / Lock role, not a big minute HOK role.

Is TMM to HTF sideways? Nagging feeling that it is despite R1

Turpin was intended to get 50+ mins at hooker, ok im out