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    NRL Fantasy 2023 Part 11 - The case of the mistrusted team lists

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    Post by mattnz Wed Mar 08, 2023 4:44 pm

    mrbrownstone wrote:What's everyone's thoughts on BMM? Easy wait and see for a week?

    Doesn't pass the 'no shit players' rule, but I also don't really see who's stealing minutes from him with that bench. Does Bird spend a bit of time in the second row?

    Jamie from NRL Fantasy analysis was discussing him, apparently he was getting 70 minutes in the trials, which is far more than we have seen him play before.

    To me he is a wait and see, but if getting 60+ minutes, is probably in my team next week.
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    Post by sajjos Wed Mar 08, 2023 4:44 pm

    mrbrownstone wrote:What's everyone's thoughts on BMM? Easy wait and see for a week?

    Doesn't pass the 'no shit players' rule, but I also don't really see who's stealing minutes from him with that bench. Does Bird spend a bit of time in the second row?

    There's a plethora of Edge options this year and he isn't one of them.
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    Post by mattnz Wed Mar 08, 2023 4:45 pm

    slats86 wrote:trading out roosters players when they are playing the warriors this week be crazy

    Yeah, easy beats, like the Dolphins.....
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    Post by mrbrownstone Wed Mar 08, 2023 4:46 pm

    This Cheese debate is one of the reasons I think it's important to have clear reasons/expectations in mind when buying a player. That way, you can evaluate the process, not the outcome.

    For mine, all the reasons Cheese was a good buy initially (underpriced based off previous hooker performances, playing for a strong team, very handy dual, highly owned etc) are still valid. He simply got unlucky with HIAs and other injuries effecting his role. Even without that, it was telegraphed that he may not play 80 initially and has a history of being the kind of guy who can score 30 one week and 70 the next.

    That happens, but don't confuse the outcome with the process. Feels hugely reactive to sell him after one week.
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    Post by Aardvark Wed Mar 08, 2023 4:46 pm

    mrbrownstone wrote:What's everyone's thoughts on BMM? Easy wait and see for a week?

    Doesn't pass the 'no shit players' rule, but I also don't really see who's stealing minutes from him with that bench. Does Bird spend a bit of time in the second row?

    The best thing about BMM was when everyone thought he was DPP.

    If he plays good minutes (i.e. anything over 40) there's value but i am going to approach any Dragons players with extreme caution.

    However, the Dragons don't appear to have an overabundance of Edge forwards so maybe that's something
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    Post by GreenSchist Wed Mar 08, 2023 4:46 pm

    A lot of chat about bringing in Carty this week. I get it, I support it. It makes sense for a cash grab, even if it comes with RISK.

    In saying that, would I not be better bringing in BBM for that same risk. Upside is he's big minutes and hold his role in a depleted pack.
    Saves me $47k right off the bat by not chasing Cartwright.

    I think I prefer BBM
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    Post by Aardvark Wed Mar 08, 2023 4:48 pm

    GreenSchist wrote:A lot of chat about bringing in Carty this week. I get it, I support it. It makes sense for a cash grab, even if it comes with RISK.

    In saying that, would I not be better bringing in BBM for that same risk. Upside is he's big minutes and hold his role in a depleted pack.
    Saves me $47k right off the bat by not chasing Cartwright.

    I think I prefer BBM


    He could be the safety parachute for Carty cheer
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    Post by my tv broke Wed Mar 08, 2023 4:49 pm

    sajjos wrote:Talking about locks, is Jking locked in for 80 minutes at lock or was that an anomaly?

    The HIA to Tonumaipea probably changed the rotation. Any thoughts?

    Don't know, but they do have Kamikamica to come back into the team, plus Tariq Sims in some capacity (personally don't think he'll play a big role).
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    Post by GarethEllisismyDad Wed Mar 08, 2023 4:49 pm

    ShadowSabre wrote:Cant wait for Cheese to score 65 with a try in 65 mins this week and burn all the sellers. It's gonna be a glorious!!

    The fact that people are now considering Turpin is why some of these theories being put forward aren't just funny, some are actually going to take it seriously and cost them trades and rankings

    I’ll cop it, wouldn’t surprise me, he has the game to go bananas
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    Post by Revraiser Wed Mar 08, 2023 4:49 pm

    WT2K wrote:

    Had some satay chicken for lunch, that's about all you've missed.

    Set and forget meal isn't it 😋
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    Post by Aardvark Wed Mar 08, 2023 4:50 pm

    Revraiser wrote:

    Set and forget meal isn't it 😋

    But does it have the role you expected for it this season?
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    Post by my tv broke Wed Mar 08, 2023 4:51 pm

    GreenSchist wrote:A lot of chat about bringing in Carty this week. I get it, I support it. It makes sense for a cash grab, even if it comes with RISK.

    In saying that, would I not be better bringing in BBM for that same risk. Upside is he's big minutes and hold his role in a depleted pack.
    Saves me $47k right off the bat by not chasing Cartwright.

    I think I prefer BBM

    Just doesn't seem as fun/risky/stupid to me. Its probably a smart move though.
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    Post by mrbrownstone Wed Mar 08, 2023 4:53 pm

    my tv broke wrote:

    Don't know, but they do have Kamikamica to come back into the team, plus Tariq Sims in some capacity (personally don't think he'll play a big role).

    Eisenhuth as well might have some effect on the rotation.
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    Post by Antipodean1 Wed Mar 08, 2023 4:53 pm

    Latrell good to go... NRL.com.

    But how much will that PCL impact fantasy?


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    Post by multiple.scoregasms Wed Mar 08, 2023 4:55 pm

    mattnz wrote:

    Turpin replaced Smith for HIA, then came back on at 28 minutes, when Lodge went off (not the Lodge HIA, a planned interchange), there had been no other HIAs at that stage. Obviously Cheese moved to lock then in a planned move.

    Since that game, the situation has got worse with the Lodge injury and potentially Radley being out (more than likely).

    From game 1, Turpin was intended to get what looks like 50+ minutes at HOK, with Cheese playing lock for significant periods. The bench named this week shows that this should continue. If you replace Lodge with JWH and they keep the same game plan, he still has a HOK / Lock role, not a big minute HOK role.



    Have you considered that Robinson might play his best hooker at hooker and play the fringe first grader (Turpin) at lock?
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    Post by The Goat Boys Wed Mar 08, 2023 4:55 pm

    Giving Cheese another week shouldn`t kill anyone's chances.

    Safest play is to wait a week in my opinion, see a more roosters like performance and less HIA`s (Hopefully)
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    Post by ShadowSabre Wed Mar 08, 2023 4:56 pm

    I think I like BMM more than picking up Ford or Loiero as he's cheaper and in theory has similar (possibly better even) job security, but gonna stick with Carty based on my having fun strategy this year
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    Post by Chucky Wed Mar 08, 2023 4:57 pm

    I finally managed to catch up on all of todays posts.
    I think I need a HIA.
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    Post by wolfking Wed Mar 08, 2023 4:59 pm

    mattnz wrote:

    Turpin replaced Smith for HIA, then came back on at 28 minutes, when Lodge went off (not the Lodge HIA, a planned interchange), there had been no other HIAs at that stage. Obviously Cheese moved to lock then in a planned move.

    Since that game, the situation has got worse with the Lodge injury and potentially Radley being out (more than likely).

    From game 1, Turpin was intended to get what looks like 50+ minutes at HOK, with Cheese playing lock for significant periods. The bench named this week shows that this should continue. If you replace Lodge with JWH and they keep the same game plan, he still has a HOK / Lock role, not a big minute HOK role.



    Dude, come on.
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    Post by Antipodean1 Wed Mar 08, 2023 5:00 pm

    ShadowSabre wrote:I think I like BMM more than picking up Ford or Loiero as he's cheaper and in theory has similar (possibly better even) job security, but gonna stick with Carty based on my having fun strategy this year

    Ford will be the best of those 4, because he is the only one I did not pick.

    I decided a Storm edge > Warriors edge...it's a marginal call.

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