NRL Fantasy 2023 Part 53 - Back to the footy!

What position was Fainu playing for the 5 points in 40 mins vs Tigers? Missionary?

Bethany_B wrote:
Three scores of 35 would get him 100k which is enough, as well as be a valuable number for the 13 and 16 byes

At this point of the season, is 100k enough?

What are you going to do with a $320k player post R19?

Upgrade him? that's going to require a big balance from somewhere
Downgrade to someone like Xavier Coates? to free up cash for an upgrade elsewhere

I guess its more abut the use of the money now, rather than when he eventually gets sold, money getting mode would be more like a bonus.

WT Winfield wrote:What position was Fainu playing for the 5 points in 40 mins vs Tigers? Missionary?

He came on for Brad Parker, so I assume in the backline. If only footystatistics had a feature where people could put some sort of note to explain subs and unusual minutes played

From what i remember of that game Tigers had all the ball but just couldn't score, so only 5 tackles isn't great.

my tv broke wrote:

I would grab him if i could actually play him, but, he's not replacing Tuilagi, he's replacing Burbo, which... says a bit about where he stands atm.

You'd hope he's still around by rnd 16 though, tuilagi might be back. Ola might end up in nsw side game 2 though as well.

Tuilagi Round 18, Burbo out indefinitely.

Milchcow wrote:

He came on for Brad Parker, so I assume in the backline. If only footystatistics had a feature where people could put some sort of note to explain subs and unusual minutes played

From what i remember of that game Tigers had all the ball but just couldn't score, so only 5 tackles isn't great.

Ahh right yeah. Explains the horrible PPM then. Cheers Milch.

OK, I have been talked into trading Haas.

I am looking at getting a half for him. Who would be the better option out of SJ and Moses?

Milchcow wrote:

At this point of the season, is 100k enough?

What are you going to do with a $320k player post R19?

Upgrade him? that's going to require a big balance from somewhere
Downgrade to someone like Xavier Coates? to free up cash for an upgrade elsewhere

I guess its more abut the use of the money now, rather than when he eventually gets sold, money getting mode would be more like a bonus.

I'm intending to sell him in R17-18 (depending on Kelma's return) to a cashout, ideally one that plays R19 but doesn't necessarily have to be.

Buying him now frees up enough money to make the following 3 trades next week (with about 100k buffer)

Haas, Russell, IKat -> Bateman, D Edwards, Turpin (hooker cover for Robson's bye and should plod his way to decent scores until Cheese returns in R20ish)

Any love for sipley or he burned too many last time

Weiland wrote:OK, I have been talked into trading Haas.

I am looking at getting a half for him. Who would be the better option out of SJ and Moses?

Been toying with this myself but I think I'm going SJ.

Who do people think are the genuine "must have" players for the run home (R20 onwards)

Cleary, Hynes, Fifita are the first 3 I think of. I don't think anyone will be able challenge for overall without all 3 of them (assuming they're all fit)

Grant is smashing it in hooker, think it will be tough to compete if you are relying on Robson/Cook/?? instead. Although over the short term, they may be able to match Grant's output

By stats, Haas and Yeo are clearly the best MIDs, but there are a lot of quite good ones just a step below. I think you'd need at least one of Haas/Yeo. Both if you can. After that there are a lot of guys who can do a job.

After Fifita there are plenty of half-decent edges. Don't think any of them are essential (obviously like nay position, someone might go on a big run of form and become required, but at this point couldn't single anyone out)

Plenty of 2nd tier halves around

Gagai is actually pretty close to Bird's average. Only owned by 0.2% of the top 5000, so you can't say he is a "must have"
Bird looks like he is required though, unless new the new Dragons coaching regime starts moving him around too much

Any must have WFBs?
Its been a bit of a crap shoot this year. Everyone is putting up poor scores of some form or another.
I think that there will be 1-2 that will be clear winners over the past 8 rounds. But can anyone pick them without hindsight? I think most of the top teams will include Teddy and hope he hits form.

wolfking wrote:

Been toying with this myself but I think I'm going SJ.

Yeah I am leaning that way too, seems to be more consistent than Moses. Hopefully Metcalf doesn't affect his scores too much but I don't imagine he will. Dylan Brown doesn't seem to affect Moses too much.

manlybeaver wrote:Any love for sipley or he burned too many last time

A few guys around that late 400k mark available at MID that should score in the 40-45 region for fairly little money in comparison to Tohu who most are keen on. Makes you wonder if Tohu is a must have this week

Tatola, Sipley, Ofa

manlybeaver wrote:Any love for sipley or he burned too many last time

Prefer Ofa for a $33k discount.

Milchcow wrote:
Who do people think are the genuine "must have" players for the run home (R20 onwards)

Cleary, Hynes, Fifita are the first 3 I think of. I don't think anyone will be able challenge for overall without all 3 of them (assuming they're all fit)

Grant is smashing it in hooker, think it will be tough to compete if you are relying on Robson/Cook/?? instead. Although over the short term, they may be able to match Grant's output

By stats, Haas and Yeo are clearly the best MIDs, but there are a lot of quite good ones just a step below. I think you'd need at least one of Haas/Yeo. Both if you can. After that there are a lot of guys who can do a job.

After Fifita there are plenty of half-decent edges. Don't think any of them are essential (obviously like nay position, someone might go on a big run of form and become required, but at this point couldn't single anyone out)

Plenty of 2nd tier halves around

Gagai is actually pretty close to Bird's average. Only owned by 0.2% of the top 5000, so you can't say  he is a "must have"
Bird looks like he is required though, unless new the new Dragons coaching regime starts moving him around too much

Any must have WFBs?
Its been a bit of a crap shoot this year. Everyone is putting up poor scores of some form or another.
I think that there will be 1-2 that will be clear winners over the past 8 rounds. But can anyone pick them without hindsight? I think most of the top teams will include Teddy and hope he hits form.

I think those 3 are the picks. Haas would be next but with the likes of JDB, even to a lesser extent, Horse or possibly Hopgood, he could be covered. Fifita lightyears as the best edge, must have.

Grant has had an underwhelming last 3 weeks though. I think Cook can match him long term. I'm hoping Harry can lose some more cash to get him back in, but Robson is a concern as a backup who I may have to settle on. I want to see him turn it around before I trade him in for round 16.

Milchcow wrote:
Who do people think are the genuine "must have" players for the run home (R20 onwards)

Cleary, Hynes, Fifita are the first 3 I think of. I don't think anyone will be able challenge for overall without all 3 of them (assuming they're all fit)

Grant is smashing it in hooker, think it will be tough to compete if you are relying on Robson/Cook/?? instead. Although over the short term, they may be able to match Grant's output

By stats, Haas and Yeo are clearly the best MIDs, but there are a lot of quite good ones just a step below. I think you'd need at least one of Haas/Yeo. Both if you can. After that there are a lot of guys who can do a job.

After Fifita there are plenty of half-decent edges. Don't think any of them are essential (obviously like nay position, someone might go on a big run of form and become required, but at this point couldn't single anyone out)

Plenty of 2nd tier halves around

Gagai is actually pretty close to Bird's average. Only owned by 0.2% of the top 5000, so you can't say  he is a "must have"
Bird looks like he is required though, unless new the new Dragons coaching regime starts moving him around too much

Any must have WFBs?
Its been a bit of a crap shoot this year. Everyone is putting up poor scores of some form or another.
I think that there will be 1-2 that will be clear winners over the past 8 rounds. But can anyone pick them without hindsight? I think most of the top teams will include Teddy and hope he hits form.

My top targets between now and the end of the year are Grant, Yeo and Edwards, though those are just the ones I don't already have. Fifita and JDB are probably also musts if you don't already have them.

Edwards is the closest thing to a must-have WFB, his base is nuts and he's been way more involved in the attack than he ever has before, and the cherry on top is that he only misses one more round between next week and the end of the season (R19).

I am also targeting a couple cut-price guys (Bateman and JFH) who may not be must-haves but could be great value for money. Bateman's improved every week he's played and we know how good he can be, and JFH is getting very cheap and has still averaged over 50 in 40+ minute games this year.

Yeah, forgot about Yeo. Easily a top tier MID.

Weiland wrote:OK, I have been talked into trading Haas.

I am looking at getting a half for him. Who would be the better option out of SJ and Moses?

SJ

Keep in mind Eels have a bye in the final round. So they’re all guaranteed red dots

my tv broke wrote:

ay, we got flogged a number of times at the back end of last season

Don't let facts get in the way of a good story

Milchcow wrote:
Who do people think are the genuine "must have" players for the run home (R20 onwards)

Cleary, Hynes, Fifita are the first 3 I think of. I don't think anyone will be able challenge for overall without all 3 of them (assuming they're all fit)

Grant is smashing it in hooker, think it will be tough to compete if you are relying on Robson/Cook/?? instead. Although over the short term, they may be able to match Grant's output

By stats, Haas and Yeo are clearly the best MIDs, but there are a lot of quite good ones just a step below. I think you'd need at least one of Haas/Yeo. Both if you can. After that there are a lot of guys who can do a job.

After Fifita there are plenty of half-decent edges. Don't think any of them are essential (obviously like nay position, someone might go on a big run of form and become required, but at this point couldn't single anyone out)

Plenty of 2nd tier halves around

Gagai is actually pretty close to Bird's average. Only owned by 0.2% of the top 5000, so you can't say  he is a "must have"
Bird looks like he is required though, unless new the new Dragons coaching regime starts moving him around too much

Any must have WFBs?
Its been a bit of a crap shoot this year. Everyone is putting up poor scores of some form or another.
I think that there will be 1-2 that will be clear winners over the past 8 rounds. But can anyone pick them without hindsight? I think most of the top teams will include Teddy and hope he hits form.

For value, and recent form, hard to go past Teddy and Turbo, they are the only planned trades I have the next 2 rounds, while they are still cheap. If Ponga stays fit, and plays well at fullback, I would expect he is in the winning team as well.

As long as Manu is in the halves, he is likely to be both the highest scoring CTR and WFB.

I am happy holding Boyd if he can keep posting the kind of scores he has been the last few weeks, lows in the 40s, through to highs in the 70s, with a few 50s and 60s, for a mid 50s average. HOK has been a real shit show this season, might as well hold the guy you already have and are happy with.

Haas and Yeo in mid 60s can be matched by the cheaper big minute locks that don't play Origin - JDB, Horse, Tohu. I am planning to grab Nelson again (3rd time lucky), when over his rib issue in the high 500s, for an expected 60 average if he stays fit. Unstoppable on the EDG in attack and gets a strong work rate defending in MID, just needs to stay on the park.

Milchcow wrote:
Who do people think are the genuine "must have" players for the run home (R20 onwards)

Cleary, Hynes, Fifita are the first 3 I think of. I don't think anyone will be able challenge for overall without all 3 of them (assuming they're all fit)

Grant is smashing it in hooker, think it will be tough to compete if you are relying on Robson/Cook/?? instead. Although over the short term, they may be able to match Grant's output

By stats, Haas and Yeo are clearly the best MIDs, but there are a lot of quite good ones just a step below. I think you'd need at least one of Haas/Yeo. Both if you can. After that there are a lot of guys who can do a job.

After Fifita there are plenty of half-decent edges. Don't think any of them are essential (obviously like nay position, someone might go on a big run of form and become required, but at this point couldn't single anyone out)

Plenty of 2nd tier halves around

Gagai is actually pretty close to Bird's average. Only owned by 0.2% of the top 5000, so you can't say  he is a "must have"
Bird looks like he is required though, unless new the new Dragons coaching regime starts moving him around too much

Any must have WFBs?
Its been a bit of a crap shoot this year. Everyone is putting up poor scores of some form or another.
I think that there will be 1-2 that will be clear winners over the past 8 rounds. But can anyone pick them without hindsight? I think most of the top teams will include Teddy and hope he hits form.

I think you covered it

1&2. Cleary and Hynes - so far ahead of everyone, main captain options
3. Fifita - so far ahead of other edges
4. Grant - #1 hooker and position is scarce for keepers this season

Would say #5. Cook if he starts scoring like he has previous years, which I think he could easily start doing but no guarantees

After that I think it's just tiers

MIDs I think you ideally want 2 of Haas, Yeo, JdB if stays 80, Hopgood if stays 60+ mins. But 1 plus 2 of the next tier (Murray, AFB, Carrigan, Harris, Horse, Matto etc.) is probably good enough

EDG - theres a tier to play beside Fifita

HLF - there's a Moses, SJ, Munster, DCE tier for backing up the big two

CTR & WFB seem a bit too unpredictable to pinpoint players. Like I feel Bird is essential, but Gagai has done the same with no fanfare. Also likely this is where people run someone a bit less to ensure the rest of the 16 is strong.