HomeIts so damn tempting to chase guns & points but at the same time i keep telling myself that its also equally important to fix up dud cows and actually build a solid squad for the long run. Having NPR's sitting in your team not making money will end up killing your season later on i reckon.
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Welshy wrote:Now DCE out? Wowsers
He scored 50 with almost zero attacking stats R1
Rabs have demolished 2 winless teams, they have scored 48 and 42 points in 2 games of course your half is going to score well, don't get me wrong he has very decent base stats from tackling and a few from KM but when the Rabs play tougher opposition expect a few 30s
I can see the appeal of getting him in for Taylor or JNiko to make cash quicker but for DCE is pure madness!
As I said to someone the other day, DCEs 50 without attacking stats was more luck than anything else - 34 tackles is abnormal for most halves, and had the dogs attacked down the right at all he would have had another mid 30s score.
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Johnny B Goode wrote:Can't believe a few people are trading out DCE on account of he looks bad and had a slow start. I mean do they know he's outscored Thurston so far. He's a completely different style of player both in the game and fantasy but what about anyone who's ever started with Shaun Johnson before.
Last year I started with SJ and guy could barely reach 40 for the first month and a half and dropped over 100k at one point. Never once did I think about trading him out and soon enough in came those back to back 90's scores and I had to just deal with the fact I paid premium price for him.
DCE's a proven gun in the past and it's quite presumptuous to think that he won't come good when Manly start to improve. I mean I don't know if I really want to try and talk anyone out of the trade just so I can see the results of what happens when he does comes good and enjoy the reactions of whoever dumped him but I just thought it was worth addressing.
The people who dumped Johnson then bought him back 100k cheaper and got those 90's killed it last season.
Previously DCE has never had to organise just kick and run, this season he has getting less touches and run nowhere near what he needs to to be fantasy relevant. I think his tackle count may be down as well due to Walker being the weaker defender
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Bullbender wrote:Klemmer cleared to play
Thats a shame, the guy is a douche nozzle.
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I'll give DCE Another week. At least if he has another quiet week and Mbye has a cracker, they should be a straight $ for $ swap
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I think this depends heavily on how you are travelling. I've had two woeful weeks, ranked over 28k now. I can look to fix up dud cows and build for the long run, but that's likely to be the same thing everyone else is doing. If I'm lucky I'll make a few better choices than some others and slowly make up some ground through squad value... maybe. But even if that's the case I'm likely to fall further and further behind points wise whilst those cows fatten and by that stage it doesn't do me much good. It's a balancing act of course like everything in this, but I think if you are in a similar position to me it's worth making some bolder moves and trying to strengthen up the scoring 17 first before looking at cows. Just means I'll have to be extra diligent picking up those mid season cows when they come along.Scouter wrote:Its so damn tempting to chase guns & points but at the same time i keep telling myself that its also equally important to fix up dud cows and actually build a solid squad for the long run. Having NPR's sitting in your team not making money will end up killing your season later on i reckon.
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Scouter wrote:Its so damn tempting to chase guns & points but at the same time i keep telling myself that its also equally important to fix up dud cows and actually build a solid squad for the long run. Having NPR's sitting in your team not making money will end up killing your season later on i reckon.
I tend to agree with this.
Id love the guys I wanted pre season but couldn't fit in (Tedesco, Tapau, Graham) but went with different guns to go with my chosen cows.
Fixing up the bad cows (NPR scoring zero don't bother me, but those single digit guys do) is highest priority and just sweat the guns we all want later don't become ridiculously unaffordable
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Welshy wrote:
Fair bit of talk about Buhrer being on the outer regardless in the preseason, likely Starling misses out JTurbo big minute prop starting with Myles, Lawrence off the pine, Taupau lock with Brown and Buhrer on the edges....or they start Lawerence with Myles and keep the back row as it is with Turbo lock and Taupau edge and have Buhrer off the bench
Thinking about bringing in both Lawrence and Taupau this week...but I'm not confident how this rotation will play out and how it'll impact on both of these guys. Good that there is 2 hookers so minutes aren't as difficult to come by, and hopefully your 2nd prediction is right!
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Archer wrote:
I think this depends heavily on how you are travelling. I've had two woeful weeks, ranked over 28k now. I can look to fix up dud cows and build for the long run, but that's likely to be the same thing everyone else is doing. If I'm lucky I'll make a few better choices than some others and slowly make up some ground through squad value... maybe. But even if that's the case I'm likely to fall further and further behind points wise whilst those cows fatten and by that stage it doesn't do me much good. It's a balancing act of course like everything in this, but I think if you are in a similar position to me it's worth making some bolder moves and trying to strengthen up the scoring 17 first before looking at cows. Just means I'll have to be extra diligent picking up those mid season cows when they come along.
Im sort of in the same position, dont have a poor team by any means but they just seem to be doing there job without being fantastic. Im tempted to bring in Tedesco for some quick points and if he keeps up his point scoring now might be the only time in the near future to get him if you have the cash. But it means giving up LAM for Lawrence or Gavet or anyone useful under 300k to bring him in, would probably plump for one of the cheaper guys as i prefer having cash in the bank
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Previously DCE has never had to organise just kick and run, this season he has getting less touches and run nowhere near what he needs to to be fantasy relevant. I think his tackle count may be down as well due to Walker being the weaker defender
A quick look at 'recieves' on nrlstats would suggest he's getting just as many touches as last year. I wonder if having two fresh darting dummy halves is having an impact, where as ballin just used to shovel it to him
I've toyed with the idea of moving him on, but he's beem far too consistent over the past few seasons to drop on the back of a couple of rounds.
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Sik wrote:In regards to trading DCE.
I personally have him and I dont have C.Walker. Yes he hasn't been performing to what everyone expected. But is there currently a 'Gun' half that is performing? Norman got big kick metres last week, but Foran wasn't kicking. Mbye got a huge score, but scored 2 tries and an assist. JT is averaging less than DCE. Hunt is marginally better. SJ scored well round 1, but struggled round 2.
So I think C.Walker will make you cash in the short term, but you say you'll trade in a 'Gun'? But who? They're all 'under performing'.
Thats a positive to the trade. In 4-5 weeks we will know who the consistent guns are and can bring them in. Cwalker will be 300k by then and thats an easier jump back up to gun status. At the same time im able to bring in a 2nd high scoring cashcow who will also make 100k over that time while also being able to make up the point diff (if any) from DCE to Walker from my 4th reserve to him
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Archer wrote:
I think this depends heavily on how you are travelling. I've had two woeful weeks, ranked over 28k now. I can look to fix up dud cows and build for the long run, but that's likely to be the same thing everyone else is doing. If I'm lucky I'll make a few better choices than some others and slowly make up some ground through squad value... maybe. But even if that's the case I'm likely to fall further and further behind points wise whilst those cows fatten and by that stage it doesn't do me much good. It's a balancing act of course like everything in this, but I think if you are in a similar position to me it's worth making some bolder moves and trying to strengthen up the scoring 17 first before looking at cows. Just means I'll have to be extra diligent picking up those mid season cows when they come along.
Yep - Balance is key. Single digit guys or bad mid rangers gotta go
Guys that already got to prohibitive price like Tedesco gotta try to get in (but then again Inglis, RTS, Dugan maybe even Munster all going to show good returns for much less now)
A Fensom to Tapau type move is where just doesn't make sense
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Welshy wrote:
Main reason I'm being hesitant about bringing in Taupau
I'm sure Barrett didn't like what he saw from Kapow against Tigers and will bring Buhrer back just to fark with fantasy managers
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I dont know what DCE avged last year but he has only run the ball 6 times in 2 games so far.
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Welshy wrote:
Who are they coming in for mate?
LAM and evans
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Welshy wrote:Now DCE out? Wowsers
He scored 50 with almost zero attacking stats R1
Rabs have demolished 2 winless teams, they have scored 48 and 42 points in 2 games of course your half is going to score well, don't get me wrong he has very decent base stats from tackling and a few from KM but when the Rabs play tougher opposition expect a few 30s
I can see the appeal of getting him in for Taylor or JNiko to make cash quicker but for DCE is pure madness!
It does seem like madness but guys will be forced to in order to fix up their teams. Unfortunately so many of the midrangers talked up in preseason are not getting good scores and thus not making any money
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Phwoar, I'm pretty farking close to gambling big time and bringing in Croker. Think I've finally talked myself into it. I want to take a throw of the dice as its panic mode time. All my options seem like a bit of a stab in the dark so this is the reasons I'm currently considering Croker (outside my love for him as our captain of course).
1 - He has maintained his price despite Sezer being out and illness, once Sezer comes back I think he benefits a lot. Papa is also on fire this year, if he doesn't score himself Croker is a chance off the back of it.
2 - We play Knights and then Titans next, not only should we go big against both (so more conversions) but he should play a decent part in that
3 - If I'm going to gamble, it might as well be on a guy from my club right? Even more reason to cheer him on.
Anything completely wrong with that logic there that I might only be seeing because of the green tinted shades?
1 - He has maintained his price despite Sezer being out and illness, once Sezer comes back I think he benefits a lot. Papa is also on fire this year, if he doesn't score himself Croker is a chance off the back of it.
2 - We play Knights and then Titans next, not only should we go big against both (so more conversions) but he should play a decent part in that
3 - If I'm going to gamble, it might as well be on a guy from my club right? Even more reason to cheer him on.
Anything completely wrong with that logic there that I might only be seeing because of the green tinted shades?
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Re: 2016 NRL.com Fantasy thread part 13
by Beast From The Big East Wed Mar 16, 2016 8:24 pm
How many more weeks does Jturbo need to play in the back row to get DPP. Would go a long way in helping me decide on my trade options this week
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Beast From The Big East wrote:How many more weeks does Jturbo need to play in the back row to get DPP. Would go a long way in helping me decide on my trade options this week
Needs to start there (not just get named, but actually start) 4 times to get DPP.