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    Post by standard-issue Tue Oct 11, 2016 12:26 pm

    As much as I want it to work, and as much as there is massive optimism surrounding a Perth team, I don't think it will work yet.  Which means we are very lucky they didn't implement it a few years ago when it was nearly a thing.

    The Test this weekend is sold out and we get 20k plus to every other Round game, but I can't see that being replicated every second week.  If the franchise could survive on an average of 10k, then that is around what they will get I reckon.
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    Post by Krump Tue Oct 11, 2016 12:28 pm

    Oz Sport Mad wrote:

    Less media reporting of shambolic club operations.

    What fans you do lose (and we are only talking Sydney fans here too BTW), you'd pick up elsewhere.
    I'm happy to discuss all of this in the tigers thread. Isn't this thread for discussing how the Bronco's are circumventing the intention of the salary cap?
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    Post by Mearcats Tue Oct 11, 2016 12:29 pm

    Krump wrote:I don't think a draft is needed if clubs are stopped from paying those marquee players unders and topping it up with TPA's

    Yup agree, it would need to happen ALONGSIDE a whole lot more transparency regarding TPA's and players contracts etc, somewhat like the NFL does.

    Speaking of which... Hey you! FIX YA FECKIN TEAM YA SLACKER!






































    Or at least just gimme all your good players!
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    Post by Krump Tue Oct 11, 2016 12:31 pm

    Standard has an Issue wrote:As much as I want it to work, and as much as there is massive optimism surrounding a Perth team, I don't think it will work yet.  Which means we are very lucky they didn't implement it a few years ago when it was nearly a thing.

    The Test this weekend is sold out and we get 20k plus to every other Round game, but I can't see that being replicated every second week.  If the franchise could survive on an average of 10k, then that is around what they will get I reckon.
    The NRL doesn't care about the fans or crowd numbers, it's all about tv veiwers and the corporate dollar.
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    Post by Mearcats Tue Oct 11, 2016 12:31 pm

    Krump wrote:
    I'm happy to discuss all of this in the tigers thread. Isn't this thread for discussing how the Bronco's are circumventing the intention of the salary cap?

    There's probably too many ways. Trying to list them all would break the internet.
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    Post by standard-issue Tue Oct 11, 2016 12:32 pm

    Krump wrote:
    Standard has an Issue wrote:As much as I want it to work, and as much as there is massive optimism surrounding a Perth team, I don't think it will work yet.  Which means we are very lucky they didn't implement it a few years ago when it was nearly a thing.

    The Test this weekend is sold out and we get 20k plus to every other Round game, but I can't see that being replicated every second week.  If the franchise could survive on an average of 10k, then that is around what they will get I reckon.
    The NRL doesn't care about the fans or crowd numbers, it's all about tv veiwers and the corporate dollar.
    Yeah, I know but surely the bottom line will struggle if they budget for the crowds they get now and the associated merchandise?
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    Post by Krump Tue Oct 11, 2016 12:40 pm

    Standard has an Issue wrote:
    Yeah, I know but surely the bottom line will struggle if they budget for the crowds they get now and the associated merchandise?
    They would have to be propped up but the bottom line would be fine for the NRL due to them being in the perfect timezone for tv.
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    Post by standard-issue Tue Oct 11, 2016 12:46 pm

    Krump wrote:
    Standard has an Issue wrote:
    Yeah, I know but surely the bottom line will struggle if they budget for the crowds they get now and the associated merchandise?
    They would have to be propped up but the bottom line would be fine for the NRL due to them being in the perfect timezone for tv.
    I guess if the Titans managed to survive when they went from averaging 21000 to 9000 or something over 6 years than Perth could.  

    I am not sure how the Super Rugby works, but it has been a similar story for the Force in regards crowd numbers, and that is directly related to on field performance you'd assume.  Does anyone know how the franchises work in Rugger?  The Force must be struggling financially?
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    Post by Dip Tue Oct 11, 2016 12:58 pm

    Standard has an Issue wrote:
    I guess if the Titans managed to survive when they went from averaging 21000 to 9000 or something over 6 years than Perth could.  


    And by survived, you mean went broke and needed the NRL to step in and take administration?
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    Post by standard-issue Tue Oct 11, 2016 1:00 pm

    Dip wrote:
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    I guess if the Titans managed to survive when they went from averaging 21000 to 9000 or something over 6 years than Perth could.  


    And by survived, you mean went broke and needed the NRL to step in and take administration?
    Well yeah, there's that  Lol
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    Post by No Worries Tue Oct 11, 2016 1:07 pm

    Penrith, Roosters, Canberra & Titans all average around 12,000
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    Post by Oz Sport Mad Tue Oct 11, 2016 1:08 pm

    Dip wrote:

    And by survived, you mean went broke and needed the NRL to step in and take administration?

    Yep aka surviving...

    The point remains; crowd figures are a low, if not minor, if not almost non-existent concern of the TV rights holders.......and thus the NRL.

    My argument for many years is that they do have a vested interest in the crowd figures, given the better TV spectacle that a big crowd and full house creates.
    But who am I to say and no doubt some lucky khunt who is paid more than you and I combined to do SFA......has probably thrown some basic numbers around to suggest my gut-feel is incorrect and that the extra numbers of people at a match would create a dint in the number of TV viewers.
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    Post by standard-issue Tue Oct 11, 2016 1:11 pm

    No Worries wrote:Penrith, Roosters, Canberra & Titans all average around 12,000
    I think the Titans went up this year?  Not sure but thought they were down to 9 or 10 k last year.
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    Post by Oz Sport Mad Tue Oct 11, 2016 1:11 pm

    Krump wrote:
    The NRL doesn't care about the fans or crowd numbers, it's all about tv veiwers and the corporate dollar.

    It's why I think Perth will almost certainly be the next frontier.

    What is their population, 3 times that of the Goldy or something like that?

    That's a lot of potential viewers.

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    Post by Krump Tue Oct 11, 2016 1:14 pm

    No Worries wrote:Penrith, Roosters, Canberra & Titans all average around 12,000
    Only one of those provides no juniors though...
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    Post by Mearcats Tue Oct 11, 2016 1:15 pm

    So the Rooters then...
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    Post by Mearcats Tue Oct 11, 2016 1:23 pm

    Titans average for 2014 was just over 9k per game. That definitely would have increased this year. I think Perth could reasonably expect +-10k turnout per game. That would be sufficient and even then, it would only need to happen for a year or two.

    Not sure who the consortium over there is that wants to launch the franchise but failing some sort of success in the first 3-5yrs you would expect the NRL to step in and take over if they were struggling anyways, purely as Krumpy said, due to the perfect television time slot. That in it's own right is a huge vantage point as far as the NRL should be concerned and would solve a love of the dilemmas regarding scheduling that we have at the current point in time moving into the next TV rights negotiations and scrapping TNF or whatever their plan is.
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    Post by ryno_ Tue Oct 11, 2016 3:52 pm

    Mearcats wrote:Titans average for 2014 was just over 9k per game. That definitely would have increased this year. I think Perth could reasonably expect +-10k turnout per game. That would be sufficient and even then, it would only need to happen for a year or two.

    Not sure who the consortium over there is that wants to launch the franchise but failing some sort of success in the first 3-5yrs you would expect the NRL to step in and take over if they were struggling anyways, purely as Krumpy said, due to the perfect television time slot. That in it's own right is a huge vantage point as far as the NRL should be concerned and would solve a love of the dilemmas regarding scheduling that we have at the current point in time moving into the next TV rights negotiations and scrapping TNF or whatever their plan is.

    The only way Titans averaged 9k over an entire season is if they did the crowd count when a full train was at Robina station and they included that aswell.

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    Post by Pieman Tue Oct 11, 2016 4:04 pm

    ryno_ wrote:

    And there is "im being paid triple the average wage to play a game for a living and will walk right into a media career, who gives a fuck what these nobodies sitting in an office everyday until theyre 65 think".

    yeah mate lol thats how it works
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    Post by standard-issue Tue Oct 11, 2016 4:41 pm

    ryno_ wrote:
    Mearcats wrote:Titans average for 2014 was just over 9k per game. That definitely would have increased this year. I think Perth could reasonably expect +-10k turnout per game. That would be sufficient and even then, it would only need to happen for a year or two.

    Not sure who the consortium over there is that wants to launch the franchise but failing some sort of success in the first 3-5yrs you would expect the NRL to step in and take over if they were struggling anyways, purely as Krumpy said, due to the perfect television time slot. That in it's own right is a huge vantage point as far as the NRL should be concerned and would solve a love of the dilemmas regarding scheduling that we have at the current point in time moving into the next TV rights negotiations and scrapping TNF or whatever their plan is.

    The only way Titans averaged 9k over an entire season is if they did the crowd count when a full train was at Robina station and they included that aswell.

    That pitch invading snake from that Monday Night Footy game a few years ago was in the official count for that particular game as well.

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