Draft Game 2016 V2

And then...

Thank God for phones

Archer wrote:Also Welshy, I'll put my backline up against yours every day of the 2016 season.
- Radradra was no where near as potent this year.
- Dugan is a hack and woeful when not at FB.
- Roberts was hyped up but IMO a lot of it came from being a standout in a team full of also-ran's (everyone talked about how potent he would be for the broncos... until they watched him)
- Morris WAS good though now I'd say he is middle of the pack.
- Teddy is good I won't argue that (though how many games you get out of him is another story)

how can you say Bmoz WAS good lol! he came back from injury and scored 10 in 10 

Radradra has scored 60 tries in 68 games this game isn't built off one season PAL!!

calling Dugan a hack shows an appalling lack of general RL knowldege and apparent QLD bias

I really like your backline, Rapana had a fantastic year and Mansour was back to his beastly best, nothing better than the help those provide a tiring pack but Semi is the no.1 wing in the comp and Bmoz is elite and clutch

Wooo I'm back. Ok what I wanted to say, was are you guys really judging this on recent form? How is Boyd OR Radradra a 10 when you look at the 2016 season. I'm assuming 10 means the absolute best at that position. Holmes, Rapana, Mansour AND Vuni were all better, far far better this season.

No offence intended to anyone at all but I specifically scored teams based on a players performance this year. Otherwise I could've gone back to when Mal Meninga was a player and gave him a 10. Or 4 years ago when Gallen wasn't a fading light.

Archer wrote:Wooo I'm back. Ok what I wanted to say, was are you guys really judging this on recent form? How is Boyd OR Radradra a 10 when you look at the 2016 season. I'm assuming 10 means the absolute best at that position. Holmes, Rapana, Mansour AND Vuni were all better, far far better this season.

Nah the 10 points thing is my own personal ranking system to help who I decided to vote on. I gave all those wingers you mentioned a 10 also. Other positions I was a bit more strict. Wingers are wingers...

Archer wrote:Wooo I'm back. Ok what I wanted to say, was are you guys really judging this on recent form? How is Boyd OR Radradra a 10 when you look at the 2016 season. I'm assuming 10 means the absolute best at that position. Holmes, Rapana, Mansour AND Vuni were all better, far far better this season.

based on that premise GI is not a superstar anymore and doesn't hold the same standing he was previously had because he a shit year? absolute bollocks

Sounds like things are starting to heat up. Remember it is just a game lads, not WW3

Dugan is terrible when not playing at FB, kills opportunities and stifles attack because he wants to be the hero (Only have to watch how embarrasing he and fergo were together in the test). When he is at FB he's limited, fantastic running game sure, but definitely not one of the top FB's when it comes to chiming into a backline and setting up his outside men. Living off his reputation he gained as a young fella when he showed "potential". Bmoz and Semi COULD be good this year, but its so hard to tell given the small sample size. I did say Bmoz was ok and I'll give him a little more leeway then Semi due to being consistent for so long, just think he is middle of the pack now.

Welshy wrote:
based on that premise GI is not a superstar anymore and doesn't hold the same standing he was previously had because he a shit year? absolute bollocks

IMO Inglis is a better center then a fullback, especially the way his knee or whatever it was this year.

Archer wrote:Dugan is terrible when not playing at FB, kills opportunities and stifles attack because he wants to be the hero (Only have to watch how embarrasing he and fergo were together in the test). When he is at FB he's limited, fantastic running game sure, but definitely not one of the top FB's when it comes to chiming into a backline and setting up his outside men. Living off his reputation he gained as a young fella when he showed "potential". Bmoz and Semi COULD be good this year, but its so hard to tell given the small sample size. I did say Bmoz was ok and I'll give him a little more leeway then Semi due to being consistent for so long, just think he is middle of the pack now.

Yeah Duges at center doesn't do it for me. Unlike Inglis Dugan is a better fullback then a center IMO.

Mearcats wrote:No offence intended to anyone at all but I specifically scored teams based on a players performance this year. Otherwise I could've gone back to when Mal Meninga was a player and gave him a 10. Or 4 years ago when Gallen wasn't a fading light.

This!
You're reputation and previous seasons only gets you so far. Eventually the game moves past you as you age. It doesn't mean you weren't great but equally, you don't get a mortgage on the number 1 in your position if you can't keep it going. There was a period were Kimmorley was actually pretty good, it certainly wasn't when he played for Canberra though, i promise you that!

TopDog wrote:

IMO Inglis is a better center then a fullback, especially the way his knee or whatever it was this year.

my point being Random shouldn't get knocked down if say GI was being ranked on this years performance. GI is still GI and in the top 5% of players in the NRL

Also, I actually really enjoy this discussion and is why i wanted to play. Not heated at all, I assume everyone likes a good argie bargie (spellingz?). One thing I was hoping to discuss was draft tactics and how everyone approached the draft/adjusted. Obviously doesn't matter when judging the teams, just a pure interest thing.

Welshy wrote:
my point being Random shouldn't get knocked down if say GI was being ranked on this years performance. GI is still GI and in the top 5% of players in the NRL

Agreed. I gave Inglis 10 points also.

I rated who had the better team, not who had better individuals. Rating individuals and not factoring in the players around them is pointless. A champion team beats a team of champions.

TopDog wrote:

Yeah Duges at center doesn't do it for me. Unlike Inglis Dugan is a better fullback then a center IMO.

granted Dugan is better FB than CTR that isn't rocket science, fact is he is still better than 90% of pure CTRs playing CTR

Honeysett wrote:I rated who had the better team, not who had better individuals. Rating individuals and not factoring in the players around them is pointless. A champion team beats a team of champions.

well said lad!

no point having JT and surrounding him with absolute gumbies of the Johno Wright ilk

not a bash at your side as you have JT, just using the best player in NRL as an example

Honeysett wrote:I rated who had the better team, not who had better individuals. Rating individuals and not factoring in the players around them is pointless. A champion team beats a team of champions.

Unless it's QLD

Team of Champions + a champion team.

#Winning

Archer wrote:Also, I actually really enjoy this discussion and is why i wanted to play. Not heated at all, I assume everyone likes a good argie bargie (spellingz?). One thing I was hoping to discuss was draft tactics and how everyone approached the draft/adjusted. Obviously doesn't matter when judging the teams, just a pure interest thing.

I went the best player in the game first. As most would. Then I wanted to get a solid hooker before I was left with nothing. From there I wanted players who were the best or up coming in their position (Bromwich, Munster) from there it was about name forwards who could build the base for my halves. The back line took a bit of a back forward step because I feel they're the players that get over rated. You look at the last 3 premiership winners and the 2-5 aren't at all impressive. They're mostly serviceable with a stand out here and there.

Then I picked the best coach in the game today who gets the best out of everyone he coaches so that if there were small doubts over players his coaching style covers that for them.