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    Post by bluetige Fri Jan 06, 2017 9:39 am

    multiple.scoregasms wrote:

    Yeah tough to work out the Cowboys rotation. Will all depend on how Hess is used.

    Hess is a big boy and could be used in the middle with his size but is only used on an edge. In the last 3 games of 2016 Hess came on and moved Lowe into the prop rotation. This year, who knows?
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    Post by Warriors Fri Jan 06, 2017 9:57 am

    bluetige wrote:

    Apart from Prior, your watching the same as me. (I don't think Prior will continue his late season form because Tagaetese is back, be careful

    Yeah, except for the fact that there will be two Sharks hookers now sharing time instead of just Ennis, although they did have Beale on the bench a lot last year.
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    Post by Mulvy Fri Jan 06, 2017 10:33 am

    bluetige wrote:

    Hess is a big boy and could be used in the middle with his size but is only used on an edge. In the last 3 games of 2016 Hess came on and moved Lowe into the prop rotation. This year, who knows?

    There's a lot of speculation on Cowboys Stampede but no one knows. Hess is 115kg and imo fills Hannant's bench spot with Bolts Starting IF Lowe is fit to start the season. Indeed the other bench prop (I've picked Hoare in my team but could be Kafusi or Spina) will be good value. My point is that I don't think Asiata benefit.
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    Post by bluetige Fri Jan 06, 2017 11:15 am

    If past seasons are anything to go by I will likely pick the best performer in pre-season trial who then only plays 10min before disappearing after a few weeks, ala O'Brien
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    Post by Mulvy Fri Jan 06, 2017 11:32 am

    My latest turning two midrangers into gun/nuff and Holmes for Slater

    Smith Macca
    McGuire Gurgess Hoare Nuff
    Surgess Klemmer Hess Pangai Capewell Nuff
    SJ Norman Elgey Nuff
    Turbo Scott Kelly Drew
    RTS Holmes Hayne Phythian Jennings 20k

    I like it but is it balanced? ie lots of guns but ? making little money?
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    Post by my tv broke Fri Jan 06, 2017 11:44 am

    bluetige wrote:If past seasons are anything to go by I will likely pick the best performer in pre-season trial who then only plays 10min before disappearing after a few weeks, ala O'Brien

    ha! put me down for a few of those.

    if only I kept notes from previous years on specific types of traps to avoid.
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    Post by filthridden Fri Jan 06, 2017 12:38 pm

    Hey HS and whoever else is in WA - I'm heading out that way in Feb, possibly even staying in Scarborough for a night. What's to do there? I already have a local guide and will be meeting new family while over there in Albany, Denmark and Bunbury. Don't think I would have time/be free for a beer catch up with anyone though.

    Let me know all the cool things to do! (pokemon and drugs don't count)
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    Post by kiwimoose Fri Jan 06, 2017 1:15 pm

    Sorry guys I keep posting my comments in the wrong place.  Grrr. S.nona? Dragons half roumered to be taking benjis spot on SC. no talk of him here I see? Not even listed on NRL fantasy? Anyone got any info on this rookie?
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    Post by Guest Fri Jan 06, 2017 1:41 pm

    2017ismine wrote:Sorry guys I keep posting my comments in the wrong place.  Grrr. S.nona? Dragons half roumered to be taking benjis spot on SC. no talk of him here I see? Not even listed on NRL fantasy? Anyone got any info on this rookie?

    Welcome to the forum mate. Nona will be playing for the Cutters (reserve grade) with Jai Field. It looks like either K. Mann or McCrone will start. They might run with a utility on the bench & it will either be one of those two.
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    Post by Guest Fri Jan 06, 2017 1:42 pm

    filthridden wrote:Hey HS and whoever else is in WA - I'm heading out that way in Feb, possibly even staying in Scarborough for a night. What's to do there? I already have a local guide and will be meeting new family while over there in Albany, Denmark and Bunbury. Don't think I would have time/be free for a beer catch up with anyone though.

    Let me know all the cool things to do! (pokemon and drugs don't count)

    I'm sure Honeysett's list of fun activities to do while in Perth looks something like this...

    Drink beer
    Do drugs
    Have sex (Tinder)
    Play Pokemon
    Drink beer
    Go to the beach
    Watch cricket
    Do drugs
    Local cafe's and restaurants
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    Post by Chewie Fri Jan 06, 2017 2:07 pm

    Bunty Afoa anyone?
    Angus Crichton?

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    Post by Warriors Fri Jan 06, 2017 2:07 pm

    White Lightning wrote:

    Welcome to the forum mate. Nona will be playing for the Cutters (reserve grade) with Jai Field. It looks like either K. Mann or McCrone will start. They might run with a utility on the bench & it will either be one of those two.

    Yeah to start the season Mcrone will be there I would have thought.
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    Post by Warriors Fri Jan 06, 2017 2:08 pm

    Chewie wrote:Bunty Afoa anyone?
    Angus Crichton?


    Afoa no. Chrichton maybe but would need to start for me.
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    Post by Warriors Fri Jan 06, 2017 2:10 pm

    On that Fox Sports pre season chat one of the guys said that Brad Arthur said to him he wants to play an 80 minute hooker and Cameron King is probably the most likely to be capable.
    This probably just means more missed tackles at the end of the game when he gets tired.
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    Post by Aardvark Ratnick Fri Jan 06, 2017 2:15 pm

    Chewie wrote:Bunty Afoa anyone?
    Angus Crichton?


    Angus Crichton was one of my first picked however I am a tad bias rabbit rabbit rabbit
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    Post by Mulvy Fri Jan 06, 2017 2:16 pm

    Been looking into hookers more (no not for filth's fun list Very Happy ). With some of them changing clubs/roles/benches they may get more minutes (which we can't really know yet), but I thought I would analyse if the increase in minutes is likely to make much difference if they got them. The following is the average of hookers when they play 70+ minutes. (70 just seemed like a good number for some reason).

    Luke: Avg 52.4 over 13 games, priced at 48.5 value 3.9
    McInnes: Avg 58.6 over 8 games, priced at 50 value 8.6
    McCullogh: Avg 51 over 10 games, priced at 45.2 value 5.8
    Peats: Avg 49.4 over 7 games, priced at 44.8 value 4.6
    Farah: Avg 58.3 over 4 games, priced at 45.9 value 12.4

    Then the question is who is most likely to get 70+ minutes each week. Farah would seem to be great value but with the byes and origin would be hard to pick especially with Cook there. Those looking at McInnes might be on the money especially if Mcrone plays half.

    Thoughts?




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    Post by Milchcow Fri Jan 06, 2017 2:16 pm

    Warriors wrote:On that Fox Sports pre season chat one of the guys said that Brad Arthur said to him he wants to play an 80 minute hooker and Cameron King is probably the most likely to be capable.
    This probably just means more missed tackles at the end of the game when he gets tired.

    Well if Cam King is going to play 80 minutes then he will score enough to be a good pick.

    Even if he is unlikely to reach the heights of the the gun hookers he should make enough cash to make an easier transition.

    Nothng to do now though except wait for trials and see what happens
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    Post by Warriors Fri Jan 06, 2017 2:19 pm

    mulvy wrote:My latest turning two midrangers into gun/nuff and Holmes for Slater

    Smith Macca
    McGuire Gurgess Hoare Nuff
    Surgess Klemmer Hess Pangai Capewell Nuff
    SJ Norman Elgey Nuff
    Turbo Scott Kelly Drew
    RTS Holmes Hayne Phythian Jennings 20k

    I like it but is it balanced? ie lots of guns but ? making little money?

    Very similar setup to mine at this stage

    Macca vs McInnes
    Klemmer vs Vaughan
    SJ vs DCE

    Other than rookies like L Perret, Spina, Arrow, L Knight, N Butcher etc we have very similar teams. These rookies will show themselves round 1 and a few more might even pop up with injuries in pre-season.

    Too often people focus on money making too much and are left behind after 5/6 rounds points wise.
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    Post by Milchcow Fri Jan 06, 2017 2:20 pm

    my tv broke wrote:

    ha! put me down for a few of those.

    if only I kept notes from previous years on specific types of traps to avoid.


    If you find yourself using any of the following phrases, then you might be looking at a trap.

    "PPM King"
    "Added responsibility"
    "He wouldn't change clubs for less minutes"

    and of course the perennial favourite - "Training the house down"

    Also, if the guys surname rhymes with Borbasson, its probably a trap.
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    Post by Warriors Fri Jan 06, 2017 2:24 pm

    mulvy wrote:Been looking into hookers more (no not for filth's fun list Very Happy ). With some of them changing clubs/roles/benches they may get more minutes (which we can't really know yet), but I thought I would analyse if the increase in minutes is likely to make much difference if they got them. The following is the average of hookers when they play 70+ minutes. (70 just seemed like a good number for some reason).

    Luke: Avg 52.4 over 13 games, priced at 48.5 value 3.9
    McInnes: Avg 58.6 over 8 games, priced at 50 value 8.6
    McCullogh: Avg 51 over 10 games, priced at 45.2 value 5.8
    Peats: Avg 49.4 over 7 games, priced at 44.8 value 4.6
    Farah: Avg 58.3 over 4 games, priced at 45.9 value 12.4  

    Then the question is who is most likely to get 70+ minutes each week. Farah would seem to be great value but with the byes and origin would be hard to pick especially with Cook there. Those looking at McInnes might be on the money especially if Mcrone plays half.

    Thoughts?

    Yeah Ive done this analysis already and agree. I came to the conclusion I have to have Smith, then the next best gun would be McInnes as Farah misses 5 rounds. Be good to have two hookers scoring close to 60 every week. Should be enough value elsewhere to not gamble on Cameron King/ Jayden Brailey types.





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