2017 NRL.com Fantasy thread part 2

Welshy wrote:

Welcome mate, you will find a fountain of information and fantasy knowledge in here!

Where in the UK are you based fella?

learnt loads already.

and go to uni in loughborough (doubt anyone will have heard of it) but hail from Leeds. Hopefully be coming to Sydney in July time for the student world cup.

Also keep trying to fit Friz into my team but can't justify it

mulvy wrote:Found this:

http://www.1eyedeel.com/forum/topics/the-good-oil-on-who-is-bas-first-choice-hooker-for-2017?xg_source=activity

Just speculation I guess but should hopefully get an idea closer to season start. Someone on fanatics posted originally, maybe they can remember more?

Edit: Let's assume he doesn't play 80. Still if he was named to start, he would be good enough have as reserve by your assessment Welshy?

Cam King would need 80 to avoid being another Scott Moore.

In 21 previous games his highest fantasy score is 31. Never played 80, but been starting hooker several times.

Unless he is sole hooker his price rise will be small enough to make it hard to find a decent upgrade.

Welshy wrote:

Nice to have a genuine fantasy discussion Rabs

I do know what you are saying mate all i was adding that there is more risk involved in the hooking spot due to less manouvability in comparison with other spots, problem you probably had as well was being reluctant in dumping your gun hookers for the quick cash makers like Garvey and Parcell when he got the gig full time, and not many fantasy stalwarts would of tbh.

I got lucky and jumped on the Gravy and Parcell train and it probably saved my season because i was struggling for cash early when LAM and another failed.

Been looking more into McInnes lately and his numbers when he plays 60+ mins are fantastic, if Seggy comes in cheapish I may start with that pair and get BJ + SioneMat in the CTR with Teddy, RTS and Hayne in the WFB

Don't think we have a Garvey or Parcell this year at hooker. I'm very wary of Cameron King, has a worse PPM than IDG in previous years.

People looking at Moses and Tedesco early in the season, is anyone weary of their opening draw? Rabbitohs A (although in Sydney), Panthers H (could struggle but the game will be open), Raiders A (potential to be pumped), Storm H (Storm are very miserly), Dragons H (Dragons actually have good D just can't score points), Cowboys A. Pretty tough opening draw.

also BJ should have a couple of low scores at some point so we should be able to get him cheaper at some stage than he currently is.

Rabbit wrote:If Tia Maria and Latrell stay fit this year I see bumper seasons for both. I'm bringing 'em in on the basis of vast and untapped potential. Latrell is a TB LB specialist and doesn't mind a try. He'll have another full pre season and will have worked on his body. Last year he got an injury early and carried it all year, but still went OK. Same with Tia Maria on the body build up and he is a gun in the making. He looked great last year in those couple of games. Reminds me of Sterlo.  I like those two as early PODs, along with Robbie the gun Farah and Elgey who I think will both have blinders this year. Just a few unsolicited pearls of wisdom for you blokes. Thank me later.

Actually agree with this but not willing to pick either in my fantasy team. TMM was stuck as 4th play maker behind Wallace, Soward and Moylan so was getting very little ball in his 4 games (averaged 21 touches in his 5 games which is absurdly low for a half, compared to just his own team in those 5 games: 118, Soward: 44, Moylan: 38). TMM also only managed one kick for 6 metres in his 5 games. Playing next to a less dominant half in Cleary he should take on a little more responsibility.

Latrell started the season firing but by round 6 or 7 he was looking tired and worn out. The result of this was Ferguson moving back to fullback despite his mediocre form because Latrell simply could not handle it. With a full pre-season under his belt I expect a big improvement, though this may not be reflected in fantasy scores

multiple.scoregasms wrote:

Actually agree with this but not willing to pick either in my fantasy team. TMM was stuck as 4th play maker behind Wallace, Soward and Moylan so was getting very little ball in his 4 games (averaged 21 touches in his 5 games which is absurdly low for a half, compared to just his own team in those 5 games: 118, Soward: 44, Moylan: 38). TMM also only managed one kick for 6 metres in his 5 games. Playing next to a less dominant half in Cleary he should take on a little more responsibility.

Latrell started the season firing but by round 6 or 7 he was looking tired and worn out. The result of this was Ferguson moving back to fullback despite his mediocre form because Latrell simply could not handle it. With a full pre-season under his belt I expect a big improvement, though this may not be reflected in fantasy scores

Fantasy wise I simply cannot trust TMM because in quiet games with no attacking stats, he simply doesn't have the kicking game required to pad his scores and a few missed tackles = scores in the 20's

lewis9966 wrote:Been lurking all pre-season so thought I would get involved.

Last year was my first year of fantasy so was just a year of learning really. Hoping to get into it more this year and I have been reading every post in here hoping to absorb some sweet sweet knowledge. Got some ideas on my team but keeps chopping and changing every day.

But yeah good to have somewhere to talk about fantasy.

Also I live in the UK, any other poms post on here?

Welcome mate. Good to have another new member. You'll find this site will be excellent for your team.

not sure on this guys source but he doesnt usually tell BS

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Mitch ‏@mitchd_90   5m5 minutes ago
Korbin Sims to the Broncos is done.

Took a large pay cut to go.
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so yeah, pretty much rules out any cashies in the bronx forwards. but potentially makes dsaifiti or other knights props more attractive.

I think the way to accomodate having King in your team is to have him in your npr's. Just let him stay there to evaluate how he goes. I think he's a very good chance of being the Eels no. 9. It's not as if De Gois & K. Pritchard are great hookers that offer stiff competition to King. It is true that King has had a history of injuries but he is a very talented individual & what better team than the Eels for him to exhibit those skills because they play an exciting, open brand of football.

If King is named #9 I really want to start with him but it also feels like he will be bumped to the bench/reserve grade by round 3 or 4

Cheers MTB. That's great for my Souths frf pod as there were rumours he was going there. But it's probably bad for any cash cows at the Broncos. McGuire now even more confirmed as lock. I'm hoping they get rid of K-Nik on the bench & play 4 forwards so Macca plays 80 mins but it probably won't happen. With Parker retired they need Macca on the field for 80 as he's their best tackler. It was noticeable last year that when both Parker & Macca were off the field the Broncos lost control of the ruck.

According to this Slater (barring injury) will be back. Apologies if I am not up to date on things but this seems to differ from posts which suggested Slater was effectively done:

http://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/league/88606157/storm-fullback-billy-slater-to-return-in-melbournes-nrl-trials

White Lightning wrote:Cheers MTB. That's great for my Souths frf pod as there were rumours he was going there. But it's probably bad for any cash cows at the Broncos. McGuire now even more confirmed as lock. I'm hoping they get rid of K-Nik on the bench & play 4 forwards so Macca plays 80 mins but it probably won't happen. With Parker retired they need Macca on the field for 80 as he's their best tackler. It was noticeable last year that when both Parker & Macca were off the field the Broncos lost control of the ruck.

Musgrove? i'm interested in him.

Macca was his usual self setting new PB's in fitness tests earlier in pre season.

my tv broke wrote:

Musgrove? i'm interested in him.

Macca was his usual self setting new PB's in fitness tests earlier in pre season.

Yep & Macca is a beast. If he plays 80 mins he'll make 50+ tackles. If he plays 55-60 mins he'll only score 40-45.

I think it will be very interesting how Bennett uses his bench. I think Nikorima will get the utility spot, but for him to become a better player and further develop, he has to start getting more minutes on the field. But do they really want macca off the field for long periods? Its possible Macca stays on when Kodi comes on but that leaves us a big man short, but I guess it depends on the game situation.

For the life of me I just don't understand why Bennett would play K-Nik off the bench & sub your best defender. I could see why he did it in 2016 because K-Niks contract was up for renewal & the Broncos wanted to keep him so he gave K-Nik 20-25 mins but there's no reason why he should do it in 2017.

White Lightning wrote:For the life of me I just don't understand why Bennett would play K-Nik off the bench & sub your best defender. I could see why he did it in 2016 because K-Niks contract was up for renewal & the Broncos wanted to keep him so he gave K-Nik 20-25 mins but there's no reason why he should do it in 2017.

he was pretty effective off the bench though, moreso in 2015 than 2016. turned the momentum with his speed out of dummy half and contributed to some crucial tries.

my tv broke wrote:I think it will be very interesting how Bennett uses his bench. I think Nikorima will get the utility spot, but for him to become a better player and further develop, he has to start getting more minutes on the field. But do they really want macca off the field for long periods? Its possible Macca stays on when Kodi comes on but that leaves us a big man short, but I guess it depends on the game situation.

Good point. Maybe Macca goes to lock when K-Nik comes on & they give McGuire a rest. Then after a short breather McGuire comes on for one of the props & Macca plays out the game at lock. Does this sound feasible?

Rippin and Tearin wrote:According to this Slater (barring injury) will be back. Apologies if I am not up to date on things but this seems to differ from posts which suggested Slater was effectively done:

http://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/league/88606157/storm-fullback-billy-slater-to-return-in-melbournes-nrl-trials

Rules out Munster as my gun WFB

White Lightning wrote:. I think he's a very good chance of being the Eels no. 9. It's not as if De Gois & K. Pritchard are great hookers that offer stiff competition to King.

Conversely, its not like King is so good that he is safe from being dropped after a few weeks

From my little knowledge and viewing of Pritchard I thought he had the goods. Sort of expected him to be the starting #9 at the Eels by this year, especially when they let Peats go.